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Dahatre
#481 Posted : Friday, October 17, 2014 8:14:44 AM
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masukuma wrote:
photos of children suffering always get me

Same here
But some of them are surviving Alhamdulillah!
Like Patrick, who finally got his bike.

His story here



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mkenyan
#482 Posted : Friday, October 17, 2014 8:23:24 AM
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masukuma
#483 Posted : Friday, October 17, 2014 8:29:13 AM
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Dahatre wrote:
masukuma wrote:
photos of children suffering always get me

Same here
But some of them are surviving Alhamdulillah!
Like Patrick, who finally got his bike.

His story here




yes.... these ones warm my heart. just goes to speaks to how healthcare can raise your chances of survival. hundreds have been released after recovery. in those places another problem is confusion of symptoms at the onset.. it could be malaria... it could be typhoid. the rule of thumb is - get help soonest and your chances of survival are raised.
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masukuma
#484 Posted : Friday, October 17, 2014 11:24:31 AM
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Has anyone noticed a spike of 'interest' as soon as Ebola gets to the 'US'?
Some comedian made fun of it

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The president of CNN Worldwide attempted on Wednesday to defuse the brewing controversy over his decision to change the network’s official slogan from “The Most Trusted Name in News” to “Holy Crap, We’re All Gonna Die.”
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masukuma
#485 Posted : Friday, October 17, 2014 12:20:34 PM
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Citizen on Facebook wrote:
Kenya to send 15 doctors and 300 other health workers to West Africa as part of a team from East African Community to tackle Ebola outbreak.


rather fight the disease 'in situ' than wait for it to come to your doorstep.
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Muriel
#486 Posted : Friday, October 17, 2014 12:26:52 PM
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masukuma wrote:
murchr wrote:
madollar wrote:
ecstacy wrote:
Morocco has withdrawn as hosts of the Africa Cup Of Nations overs fears of the Ebola virus!


Wah! The fear is real Sad

Parents are threatening to remove their children from a Crewe school for three weeks when teachers return from a Kenyan trip because of fears surrounding the Ebola virus.
Several parents contacted the Chronicle over the weekend claiming the exchange trip by teachers at The Berkeley Primary School in Wistaston to a twin school in Kenya was 'an unnecessary risk'.


Ebola is real! is more like it. No one is taking chances

as I once said.... all of us are the same.. the image of starving children in Chad , Ebola striken people in liberia or even gun trotting rebels in congo are on all black folk. mpende msipende people don't really care about these funny borders you have.... nyinyi ni kitu moja. ujinga ni kuamini that you have 'ties with the west'.... your peers are liberians, chadians, congolese and even basotho fellows.



Banding together just because the west bands us together is conceeding to the west that indeed their opinions actually shape us.

Resistance to the west includes resistance to their concepts of lumping us as one. We are divergent in the full meaning of the word.
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Muriel
#487 Posted : Friday, October 17, 2014 12:41:44 PM
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masukuma wrote:
AlphDoti wrote:
masukuma wrote:
Life in the frontline.... heart breaking decisions are made to turn away sick people. These are real people... real lives... real families shuttered. While some of us are engaging in conspiracy theories about depopulation and grand conspiracy theories about diamonds in sierra leone and oil in naija

I respect you for that @macabbage. I remember your sober stand on the Gaza issue, when others here were saying the kids must be wiped out because "the real inhabitants dinosaurs before the religious books were written" were back Applause

indeed these are real people... just like you and me. the only reason you are here and they are there is the accident of birth. They have kids just like you do. they have relatives like you do. Brothers and sisters. They grieve like you do but multiple time when their whole family is cleared.
some of these images are heart breaking




What would you do as a father if your son/daughter started exhibiting symptoms? how would you feel if you took them to a hospital and you were turned back? What happens if people who really wanted to help could not come in to help build hospitals and stuff like that that would make your son/daughter have higher chances of survival? Empathetically place yourself in their shoes. I personally know someone who got Ebola.... He survived but his 4 of his relatives (mother and brothers) died. they are real people.


If my kin got infected, I would, even if I were the last person alive, stay with them. At some point fear becomes no longer fearful. Liwe liwalo becomes the only thing. Inspiration is kindled from knowledge of those who passed who passed through similar strait.

But how would I feel if some people came to help me and vijana mtaani attacked them and slit their throats? What if I getting treatment in some center and some men came and evicted me intimating I was 'pretending' to be sick? What if my sick friend with whom I am getting care runs away?
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masukuma
#488 Posted : Friday, October 17, 2014 12:55:19 PM
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Muriel wrote:

If my kin got infected, I would, even if I were the last person alive, stay with them. At some point fear becomes no longer fearful. Liwe liwalo becomes the only thing. Inspiration is kindled from knowledge of those who passed who passed through similar strait.

But how would I feel if some people came to help me and vijana mtaani attacked them and slit their throats? What if I getting treatment in some center and some men came and evicted me intimating I was 'pretending' to be sick? What if my sick friend with whom I am getting care runs away?

you are right some really stupid things have happened but that is a single story in a region of 20 million people. Do you decide that the silly actions of a single slum or village stop humanitarian flow? to 20 million people?
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Muriel
#489 Posted : Friday, October 17, 2014 1:07:07 PM
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masukuma wrote:
Muriel wrote:

If my kin got infected, I would, even if I were the last person alive, stay with them. At some point fear becomes no longer fearful. Liwe liwalo becomes the only thing. Inspiration is kindled from knowledge of those who passed who passed through similar strait.

But how would I feel if some people came to help me and vijana mtaani attacked them and slit their throats? What if I getting treatment in some center and some men came and evicted me intimating I was 'pretending' to be sick? What if my sick friend with whom I am getting care runs away?

you are right some really stupid things have happened but that is a single story in a region of 20 million people. Do you decide that the silly actions of a single slum or village stop humanitarian flow? to 20 million people?



No.

You absolutely do not decide that silliness of a few individuals stop humanitarian supplies to many innocent others. That will be utterly irresponsible. Equally irresponsible will be insisting on a business-as-usual scenario.
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masukuma
#490 Posted : Friday, October 17, 2014 1:22:31 PM
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Think about the despair in that country! do you remember PEV? when you were locked in and could not buy airtime? Now think about that kind of elongated 'cutting off'. Think about how the world views of people are being affected. I remember once hearing the driver who used to drive me around shout out angrily at a person crossing the street - he said,
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Look! she is almost naked (it's a coastal town). This is why God has brought Ebola to us

That was then... what about now? A people ravaged by a 14 year war and now this.... What kinds of questions do they have? I friend of mine from Sierra Leone told me of stories some years back about how it was like when rebels attacked their cities. The was this particular town that really really really prayed. The did all sorts of rituals. Muslims and Christians did their best for God to keep their city free of rebels but Rebels still came. So Rebels came and started frog matching people and mistreating them. During one of these events some rebels put people before them and just to spite them and while spoiling for a fight said 'We are the Devil, worship us' and people bowed down to 'worship' them and they were shocked coz this town was supposed to be a 'holy' town. They brought forward one woman and asked her - Why did you do this? and she said...
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well, we asked God to spare us from you people but he did not. So we will bow to you since you are stronger than him

suffering changes worldviews and that has repercussions for generations to come!

p.s. a none related story he also told me.
the was this guy who was caught by a rebel and the rebel beat him up and the guy did nothing. The rebel decided that he will drag him around and the guy did nothing. So while being dragged around the rebel met another rebel who said
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ma man! why are you tiring yourself dragging this fellow around? just kill this guy, leave him here and stop tiring yourself!

The guy that was silent Shouted at the rebel that was giving advice
Quote:
What's it to you?

He looked at the rebel who had been dragging him around and said...
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my friend... drag me!
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