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A wedding before buying a car!
Swenani
#31 Posted : Tuesday, October 14, 2014 2:32:48 PM
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Inakaa unapenda kunyeshewa?

gmg wrote:
everytime i dont have a car i find myself very liquid. I like the liquidity more than comfort of the car.
jaggernaut wrote:
Swenani wrote:
jaggernaut wrote:
muganda wrote:
Hmmmn... Julia wa Wanjiku speaks.


Is a car more important than a wife?
Is there a difference between a marriage and a wedding?
Should a woman marry a man who does not have an automobile?


Buying a car is one the worst decisions a young man/couple could make, that is unless they have alot of resources. The costs associated with ownership are immense and that money would rather be used elsewhere to secure the young couples financial future.

So lets assume he buys a car, then these will be his costs every year:
-purchase price (subaru, premio, golf etc) = 1.2m,

Costs:
-Interest on car loan @18% = 216,000
-insurance at 7.5% = 90,000
-fueling @ 700bob per day, 5 days a week = 182,000
-parking fee @300 bob a day = 81,000
-car depreciation = 400k per year
-servicing 4 times pyr, @10000 = 40,000
-spares = 40,000
-tyres (2 per yr) = 30,000
Total cost = Ksh 1,079,000 per year.

For 3 years of ownership that will be a cost of Ksh 3,237,000, an amount enough to buy an apartment (hapo mombasa road) cash. And the car will be worth just 450k. There are better ways to invest such cash instead of literary "burning it inside your car's 1500cc engine".

If that stupid girl had advised her new husband to buy appreciating assets like land or stocks lets see hjow the situation would be:

So instead of buying car, buy stocks or land kitengela 1.2m. Also, instead of using 1,079,000 on car every year, use the money to buy more land, thus 3,237,000 bob land after 3yrs. Therefore after 3yrs total assets will be 4,437,000. And the land will be appreciating at 30% each year i.e 1,331,100 pa.

In conclusion the one who buys the car will have an "asset" worth 450k after 3 years, while the one who chose to invest elsewhere will be having assets worth 4.3m, which are appreciating by 1.3m per year. So the choices that one makes early in life have very serious consequences on our future financial well being.


Weren't you taught never to include depreciation when evaluating investments options since it doesn't involve cashflow outlay?


You should focus on the bigger picture.


If Obiero did it, Who Am I?
jaggernaut
#32 Posted : Tuesday, October 14, 2014 2:45:42 PM
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Swenani wrote:
Inakaa unapenda kunyeshewa?

gmg wrote:
everytime i dont have a car i find myself very liquid. I like the liquidity more than comfort of the car.
jaggernaut wrote:
Swenani wrote:
jaggernaut wrote:
muganda wrote:
Hmmmn... Julia wa Wanjiku speaks.


Is a car more important than a wife?
Is there a difference between a marriage and a wedding?
Should a woman marry a man who does not have an automobile?


Buying a car is one the worst decisions a young man/couple could make, that is unless they have alot of resources. The costs associated with ownership are immense and that money would rather be used elsewhere to secure the young couples financial future.

So lets assume he buys a car, then these will be his costs every year:
-purchase price (subaru, premio, golf etc) = 1.2m,

Costs:
-Interest on car loan @18% = 216,000
-insurance at 7.5% = 90,000
-fueling @ 700bob per day, 5 days a week = 182,000
-parking fee @300 bob a day = 81,000
-car depreciation = 400k per year
-servicing 4 times pyr, @10000 = 40,000
-spares = 40,000
-tyres (2 per yr) = 30,000
Total cost = Ksh 1,079,000 per year.

For 3 years of ownership that will be a cost of Ksh 3,237,000, an amount enough to buy an apartment (hapo mombasa road) cash. And the car will be worth just 450k. There are better ways to invest such cash instead of literary "burning it inside your car's 1500cc engine".

If that stupid girl had advised her new husband to buy appreciating assets like land or stocks lets see hjow the situation would be:

So instead of buying car, buy stocks or land kitengela 1.2m. Also, instead of using 1,079,000 on car every year, use the money to buy more land, thus 3,237,000 bob land after 3yrs. Therefore after 3yrs total assets will be 4,437,000. And the land will be appreciating at 30% each year i.e 1,331,100 pa.

In conclusion the one who buys the car will have an "asset" worth 450k after 3 years, while the one who chose to invest elsewhere will be having assets worth 4.3m, which are appreciating by 1.3m per year. So the choices that one makes early in life have very serious consequences on our future financial well being.


Weren't you taught never to include depreciation when evaluating investments options since it doesn't involve cashflow outlay?


You should focus on the bigger picture.




Leaving his car at home saves him Ksh 1000 each day in fuel and parking fees (or lets say 850bob after deducting matatu fare). If it rains, which happens rarely, he can use the 1k he had 'saved' to hire a taxi to take him home.
Swenani
#33 Posted : Tuesday, October 14, 2014 2:57:51 PM
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jaggernaut wrote:

Leaving his car at home saves him Ksh 1000 each day in fuel and parking fees (or lets say 850bob after deducting matatu fare). If it rains, which happens rarely, he can use the 1k he had 'saved' to hire a taxi to take him home.


Wewe @Jaggernaut,you appear to be a very mean person to yourself,kids, wife and your family.I suspect you always advise your wife to buy mahindi choma for supper to save on the cost of buying flour, meat,nyanya,kitunguu,sufuria,gas,electricity,water etc.

#I'mlookingatthebiggerpicture#
If Obiero did it, Who Am I?
mpobiz
#34 Posted : Tuesday, October 14, 2014 3:05:15 PM
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Hii ni nugu ..
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#35 Posted : Tuesday, October 14, 2014 3:06:57 PM
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Swenani wrote:
jaggernaut wrote:

Leaving his car at home saves him Ksh 1000 each day in fuel and parking fees (or lets say 850bob after deducting matatu fare). If it rains, which happens rarely, he can use the 1k he had 'saved' to hire a taxi to take him home.


Wewe @Jaggernaut,you appear to be a very mean person to yourself,kids, wife and your family.I suspect you always advise your wife to buy mahindi choma for supper to save on the cost of buying flour, meat,nyanya,kitunguu,sufuria,gas,electricity,water etc.

#I'mlookingatthebiggerpicture#

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maka
#36 Posted : Tuesday, October 14, 2014 3:24:10 PM
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MKWASI wrote:
On the flip side, I think the lady meant there is no need of doing a 1 million wedding when you do not have a vehicle. Buy motor gari first and rush to the AG.

Does it make sense? I do not know.

How does she know the kind of wedding one did?
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Kihara joni
#37 Posted : Tuesday, October 14, 2014 3:39:20 PM
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She actually has a point, once you get married some things you will have to put on hold until kids are through school,and again why spend 2 million ( fund raised)on a wedding? buy that toyota IST and drive to AG chambers and get it over with, the balance invest or better still EAT IT slowly.
McReggae
#38 Posted : Tuesday, October 14, 2014 3:47:57 PM
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Swenani wrote:
jaggernaut wrote:

Leaving his car at home saves him Ksh 1000 each day in fuel and parking fees (or lets say 850bob after deducting matatu fare). If it rains, which happens rarely, he can use the 1k he had 'saved' to hire a taxi to take him home.


Wewe @Jaggernaut,you appear to be a very mean person to yourself,kids, wife and your family.I suspect you always advise your wife to buy mahindi choma for supper to save on the cost of buying flour, meat,nyanya,kitunguu,sufuria,gas,electricity,water etc.

#I'mlookingatthebiggerpicture#


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Rahatupu
#39 Posted : Tuesday, October 14, 2014 3:55:56 PM
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Kihara joni wrote:
She actually has a point, once you get married some things you will have to put on hold until kids are through school,and again why spend 2 million ( fund raised)on a wedding? buy that toyota IST and drive to AG chambers and get it over with, the balance invest or better still EAT IT slowly.


@kihara.... This betrays her background. Humble. Her lack of financial sophistication and brazen materialist inclination, marriage is about love and sex not money and material things which are bye products.
washiku
#40 Posted : Tuesday, October 14, 2014 4:01:25 PM
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By the way @jaggernaut, do you have a car?
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