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Rank: Elder Joined: 11/7/2007 Posts: 2,182
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AlphDoti wrote:kyt wrote:alphadoti you win, you do not want your daughters touchef but you want other people's daughters touched; bloody hypocrite, not unlike all of you! you are a follower of Allah indeed. You're such a comedian, did you ever see in your Bible "Gospel According To Alphdoti"? Am I the one who wrote below verses in the Bible: Bible Numbers 31:17 - " And kill every woman who has known a man intimately."Bible Numbers 31:18 - " But keep alive for yourselves all the young girls who have not known a man intimately." this is isn't about the bible alpha, my question was very straightforward but again you bring the bible here, who told you am christian anyway? if I don't ascribe to the bible where do you hide now? LOVE WHAT YOU DO, DO WHAT YOU LOVE.
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Rank: Elder Joined: 6/20/2008 Posts: 6,275 Location: Kenya
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Mukiri wrote:Toxicity wrote:Great Information from this thread...I always admire the way Muslims follow their strict prayer schedule because if truly the prayers are daily at at the said times you would consider hurting or doing something wrong when you are just from praying maybe that is why corruption, HIV etc is very low in Muslim countries unlike christian countries.
Why are there so much conflicts between christian's and Muslims? I personally think both groups pray to the same God only that the procedures are different ..one is more adherent I say this because even from a bible and Quran their are significant similarities. As christian's or Muslim's we should stop looking at each other's religion with suspicion and claim that our is the true/correct religion, I honestly think it is the same thing to some extend.
Ps..Why do Muslim's dress like the biblical people? Like the Westgate terrorists who prayed while killing? Or that wasn't 'hurting'/'something wrong'?  Or maybe because it wasn't you or the Muliro gargen fella and his sister being shot? You're talking the great Film Editing of Westgate story, eventually looting jewels, and shooting bank safes, and finally blowing two floors? The buggers were completely destroyed in the fire, that's why there no bodies to the families of bereaved families.
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Rank: Elder Joined: 6/20/2008 Posts: 6,275 Location: Kenya
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kyt wrote:AlphDoti wrote:kyt wrote:alphadoti you win, you do not want your daughters touchef but you want other people's daughters touched; bloody hypocrite, not unlike all of you! you are a follower of Allah indeed. You're such a comedian, did you ever see in your Bible "Gospel According To Alphdoti"? Am I the one who wrote below verses in the Bible: Bible Numbers 31:17 - " And kill every woman who has known a man intimately."Bible Numbers 31:18 - " But keep alive for yourselves all the young girls who have not known a man intimately." this is isn't about the bible alpha, my question was very straightforward but again you bring the bible here, who told you am christian anyway? if I don't ascribe to the bible where do you hide now? If you don't ascribe the Bible so what is paining you (pilipili usioila yakuwashani)? If it is a question of rape, ask straight, I already responded hereAnd don't accuse me without proof 
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Rank: Elder Joined: 11/7/2007 Posts: 2,182
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alpha I have not seen where you have answered my question. you have said I discovered the scriptures(which I dont ascribe to) yesterday. my question was about rape and your daughter, u've not answered. but I am not sure you are willing to answer. LOVE WHAT YOU DO, DO WHAT YOU LOVE.
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Rank: Member Joined: 11/19/2009 Posts: 3,142
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Toxicity wrote:Great Information from this thread...I always admire the way Muslims follow their strict prayer schedule because if truly the prayers are daily at at the said times you would consider hurting or doing something wrong when you are just from praying maybe that is why corruption, HIV etc is very low in Muslim countries unlike christian countries.
Why are there so much conflicts between christian's and Muslims? I personally think both groups pray to the same God only that the procedures are different ..one is more adherent I say this because even from a bible and Quran their are significant similarities. As christian's or Muslim's we should stop looking at each other's religion with suspicion and claim that our is the true/correct religion, I honestly think it is the same thing to some extend.
Ps..Why do Muslim's dress like the biblical people?
Well, they don't.
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Rank: Member Joined: 11/19/2009 Posts: 3,142
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AlphDoti wrote:Again going round in cycles. It is a vicious circle. 1. Your belief says: Jesus was sacrificed by God to ransom us from sin. Islam says: God does not kill anyone, and he does not need your blood to forgive anyone. No evidence in Bible and no evidence in Quran. It was your Church scholars who came up with this idea of Atonement. 2. Bible says God tested Abraham by asking him to sacrifice his son. Quran says God tested Abraham and Abraham passed the test of faith. Bible does not say it to forgive anyone. Quran does not say it was to forgive anyone. It is your Church scholars who came up with this idea. 3. Post #104 I already told "who". Those words were said by God Almighty. 4. Post #109 Ransom means substitute 5. Post #106 All the answers since you asked this question are there. Print them and read. 6. Post #114 I have told you many times that this idea of atonement, just drop it, it is not Islamic teaching. It is the most none-sensible idea in the world! 7. Post #115 There is no atonement. No one dies for your sins. You carry your own sins. And you get your own rewards from good work.  Of course its vicious (cycle) on brains with low processing power. Impossible questions tend to do that quite a lot. Is it vicious on your brain? Then your brain must have low processing power. Pentium 1 brain. Then I come mercilessly hoist on it an impossible question and insist on an answer! I always try to make it easy for your soft, pentium 1 brain. Once more will not hurt me. Here goes. Do you agree that according to Mohammed Allah said he (Allah) ransomed the boy with a great sacrifice? Impossible question. Laugh Laugh Laugh
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Rank: Elder Joined: 6/20/2008 Posts: 6,275 Location: Kenya
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Muriel wrote:AlphDoti wrote:Again going round in cycles. It is a vicious circle. 1. Your belief says: Jesus was sacrificed by God to ransom us from sin. Islam says: God does not kill anyone, and he does not need your blood to forgive anyone. No evidence in Bible and no evidence in Quran. It was your Church scholars who came up with this idea of Atonement. 2. Bible says God tested Abraham by asking him to sacrifice his son. Quran says God tested Abraham and Abraham passed the test of faith. Bible does not say it to forgive anyone. Quran does not say it was to forgive anyone. It is your Church scholars who came up with this idea. 3. Post #104 I already told "who". Those words were said by God Almighty. 4. Post #109 Ransom means substitute 5. Post #106 All the answers since you asked this question are there. Print them and read. 6. Post #114 I have told you many times that this idea of atonement, just drop it, it is not Islamic teaching. It is the most none-sensible idea in the world! 7. Post #115 There is no atonement. No one dies for your sins. You carry your own sins. And you get your own rewards from good work. Of course its vicious (cycle) on brains with low processing power. Impossible questions tend to do that quite a lot. Is it vicious on your brain? Then your brain must have low processing power. Pentium 1 brain. Then I come mercilessly hoist on it an impossible question and insist on an answer! I always try to make it easy for your soft, pentium 1 brain. Once more will not hurt me. Here goes. Do you agree that according to Mohammed Allah said he (Allah) ransomed the boy with a great sacrifice? Impossible question. Laugh Laugh Laugh Vicious cycle indeed. Is it the one who does not understand an answer who has low processing power of pentium 0 or the one who has replied thousand times? I told you drop the notion if atonement my friend. No messenger of God preached anywhere that God kills a man to forgive the sins of others. Once more, for your slow processor, i say as regards ransom, read my points (1) up to (7) above. Open each of the answers in the links. I don't have to repeat it here. Before you ssk me again, please read them.
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Rank: Member Joined: 11/19/2009 Posts: 3,142
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AlphDoti wrote:Muriel wrote:AlphDoti wrote:Again going round in cycles. It is a vicious circle. 1. Your belief says: Jesus was sacrificed by God to ransom us from sin. Islam says: God does not kill anyone, and he does not need your blood to forgive anyone. No evidence in Bible and no evidence in Quran. It was your Church scholars who came up with this idea of Atonement. 2. Bible says God tested Abraham by asking him to sacrifice his son. Quran says God tested Abraham and Abraham passed the test of faith. Bible does not say it to forgive anyone. Quran does not say it was to forgive anyone. It is your Church scholars who came up with this idea. 3. Post #104 I already told "who". Those words were said by God Almighty. 4. Post #109 Ransom means substitute 5. Post #106 All the answers since you asked this question are there. Print them and read. 6. Post #114 I have told you many times that this idea of atonement, just drop it, it is not Islamic teaching. It is the most none-sensible idea in the world! 7. Post #115 There is no atonement. No one dies for your sins. You carry your own sins. And you get your own rewards from good work. Of course its vicious (cycle) on brains with low processing power. Impossible questions tend to do that quite a lot. Is it vicious on your brain? Then your brain must have low processing power. Pentium 1 brain. Then I come mercilessly hoist on it an impossible question and insist on an answer! I always try to make it easy for your soft, pentium 1 brain. Once more will not hurt me. Here goes. Do you agree that according to Mohammed Allah said he (Allah) ransomed the boy with a great sacrifice? Impossible question. Laugh Laugh Laugh Vicious cycle indeed. Is it the one who does not understand an answer who has low processing power of pentium 0 or the one who has replied thousand times? I told you drop the notion if atonement my friend. No messenger of God preached anywhere that God kills a man to forgive the sins of others. Once more, for your slow processor, i say as regards ransom, read my points (1) up to (7) above. Open each of the answers in the links. I don't have to repeat it here. Before you ssk me again, please read them. Laugh Laugh Laugh I will not drop what is in the Qur'an. The theme of Allah ransoming a boy with a great sacrifice is a theme I will dwell on as long as I live. Allah ransomed a boy with a great sacrifice! The one matter in the Qur'an that Alphdoti has no interest in and answer to.
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Rank: Elder Joined: 7/1/2011 Posts: 8,804 Location: Nairobi
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To get answers about God, or Allah, then the inquirers must all submit and lose themselves before the God they want to probe. So that the God can answer the questions personally. Otherwise quarrel against brother, self assertion, can't lead to any valid, or true answers.
Submission, can't be in the form of humans receiving instruction passively. In the caves, and wilderness or mountain top the prophet labors. Questions. Learns. Prays. Seeks.
Submission must entail an unconditional conversation with the most high, the greater than what we can conceive.
An exercise in intimacy and wholeness.
Otherwise we engage in apostasy.
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Rank: Member Joined: 11/19/2009 Posts: 3,142
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tycho wrote:To get answers about God, or Allah, then the inquirers must all submit and lose themselves before the God they want to probe. So that the God can answer the questions personally. Otherwise quarrel against brother, self assertion, can't lead to any valid, or true answers.
Submission, can't be in the form of humans receiving instruction passively. In the caves, and wilderness or mountain top the prophet labors. Questions. Learns. Prays. Seeks.
Submission must entail an unconditional conversation with the most high, the greater than what we can conceive.
An exercise in intimacy and wholeness.
Otherwise we engage in apostasy.
Some humans are stubbornly fearing to go beyond what they were taught in madrassa. Even if it is right there before them. Fear is not overcome by killing oneself or others to prove a point. Fear prevents union with truth. Fear is apostacy.
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