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@symbols says Abraham committed adultery
AlphDoti
#1 Posted : Friday, October 10, 2014 8:01:15 PM
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symbols wrote:

Hagar was not Abraham's wife.Sarah explained what she meant.

Hagar and Ishmael were cast away and lived in Paran not in Abraham's plot.

Isaac,the promised son and the child of sacrifice,was the only son Abraham had when God approached him for the test.

EVERYONE MUST READ THIS. @SYMBOLS DOES NOT EVEN BELIEVE IN HIS OWN BIBLE.

You see we are told in the Bible that Sarah the wife of Abraham, she couldn't bear any children. So Abraham is getting old, Sarah is getting old. Everybody is talking about she is barren, she is barren, a disgraceful thing among the Eastern people not having a child. So she says, look go unto Hagar and beget child by her. Now, this is how weddings took place those days, there were no ceremonies in court before the magistrate and he reads out a formula to you and then he gives you certificate. No!

You can see in all the prophets in the Bible when they went to take a wife, the father says take your wife, she is yours, and she becomes his wife. The only one who had the right over her was that man whom she has been given to.

Hagar is supposed to have inherited Sarah, given to her as her maid. And Sarah says look here have her. And Abraham, a man of God, a friend of God, would we say that he was committing adultery with her? If Abraham was committing adultery with Hagar, God Almighty would have reprimanded him. God says Abraham was his friend. Everybody says that, the Jews say "Father Abraham"! the Christians say "Father Abraham"! Muslims say "Father Abraham"! This father of ours committing adultery? Can we have a thing like that?

So he goes unto her and she begets a child. Now when she begets a child, for 13 years no question. For 13 more years Sarah didn't have any children. For 13 years Ishmael was the ONLY CHILD, ONLY SEED of Abraham. After 13 years, God Almighty wants also to bless Sarah and she also gets a child his name was Isaac.

So what is the problem? If God Almighty according to the Bible:
1. God says "Abraham took Ishmael his son..." Genesis 17:23
2. God says "...because he (Ishmael) is thy seed" Genesis 21:13

If you believe that these are the Words of God, then God is saying to Abraham, Ishmael your son. If God accepts, who the hell are you, or any monkey to protest that he is not his son? What right does anyone come along and deny that right? If I married a bushman woman, or Pigmy woman, and she gave birth to a child, I accept that child as my child. What right have you to say that he is not my child? Have you any right?

So on that standard, the Jewish standard, if anyone says Sarah is legitimate wife and Hagar is illegitimate, then your progeny, in which Jesus came, is a rotten progeny than that of Ismael, on that standard that you are given. We Muslims are not the one creating that standard. These are not our standards. These are the standards as you judge. And Jesus told you in Matthew 17:1-2 "Judge not that ye be judged. For with that judgement ye judge, ye shall be judged, and with what measure ye mete, it shall be measured unto you"

And Jesus says "Ye hypocryte why seeth speck in thy neighbors eye, and thou seeth not moth in thy own eye". He says first remove from your own eye before you can remove from your brother's eye.

You must heed that warning that before you point a finger think twice. This man who told you Hagar was not Abraham's wife didn't think twice. So he got you into a mess.

We must think twice before we open our mouths.
symbols
#2 Posted : Saturday, October 11, 2014 3:23:21 PM
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Swenani
#3 Posted : Saturday, October 11, 2014 3:40:36 PM
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Um Sayala
#4 Posted : Saturday, October 11, 2014 6:52:59 PM
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