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Elliott Wave Analysis Of The NSE 20
mnandii
#181 Posted : Tuesday, September 30, 2014 9:32:14 AM
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Equity Bank Share. Clear Elliott Wave pattern implies a move below 50 soon.

Detailed analytics below.
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mnandii
#182 Posted : Tuesday, September 30, 2014 9:59:11 AM
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15 minute chart of Equity Bank.

The 12345 (1) pattern shown is called an impulse wave. Impulse wave show the direction of the main trend.
I anticipate Equity to rise to either 56.50 or 58 bob then fall.

Wave 1 is at 61.00
Wave 2 is at 62.00
Wave 3 is at 53.50
Wave 4 is at 56.00
Wave 5 is at 50.00

Size of waves:
Wave 1 = (63-61) = 2.00
Wave 2 = (62-61) = 1.00
Wave 3 = (62-53.50)=8.50
Wave 4 = (56-53.50)=2.50
Wave 5 = (56-50) = 6.00

Wave (1) = (63-50) = 13.00

Golden ratio relationships:

Wave 2 retraced Fibonacci 50% of wave 1.

Wave 3 = Fibonacci 4.236 X Wave 1.

Wave (2) will end at either 56.50 ( 50% retracement of wave (1)) or at 58 (being 61.8% retracement of wave (1)).

All in all, Equity should not return to 63/- at all.
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mnandii
#183 Posted : Tuesday, September 30, 2014 10:11:05 AM
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Bad news for everready and the share rises!? Ask yourself why.

Another reason why you should never focus on news when trading
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mnandii
#184 Posted : Tuesday, September 30, 2014 10:13:58 AM
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I wish we could day trade shares on NSE, with leverage, as they do in the West.
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Metasploit
#185 Posted : Tuesday, September 30, 2014 3:17:22 PM
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Boss..ur elliot wave never predicts upside price movements..just wondering

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mnandii
#186 Posted : Tuesday, September 30, 2014 3:43:09 PM
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Metasploit wrote:
Boss..ur elliot wave never predicts upside price movements..just wondering

The index is what matters most. It suggests that there is a big bear coming. So what would be the point of trying to catch market tops in individual stocks? Especially coz you cannot do day-trading (with margin) in NSE.
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poundfoolish
#187 Posted : Tuesday, September 30, 2014 3:44:06 PM
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Metasploit wrote:
Boss..ur elliot wave never predicts upside price movements..just wondering


You missed the one that predicted Mpesa at 13:40?

And the posts on bull traps have been many and numerous...
Metasploit
#188 Posted : Tuesday, September 30, 2014 8:18:07 PM
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mnandii wrote:
Metasploit wrote:
Boss..ur elliot wave never predicts upside price movements..just wondering

The index is what matters most. It suggests that there is a big bear coming. So what would be the point of trying to catch market tops in individual stocks? Especially coz you cannot do day-trading (with margin) in NSE.


Do short term trading..its very safe.

When a stock breaks up you buy and sell as soon as momentum starts easing

That is safe,very safe..otherwise your money stay idle (by not trading or buying laggards)



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murchr
#189 Posted : Tuesday, September 30, 2014 8:21:57 PM
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mnandii wrote:
Bad news for everready and the share rises!? Ask yourself why.

Another reason why you should never focus on news when trading


Buy the rumor, sell the news
"There are only two emotions in the market, hope & fear. The problem is you hope when you should fear & fear when you should hope: - Jesse Livermore
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mnandii
#190 Posted : Wednesday, October 01, 2014 8:58:57 AM
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murchr wrote:
mnandii wrote:
Bad news for everready and the share rises!? Ask yourself why.

Another reason why you should never focus on news when trading


Buy the rumor, sell the news

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mnandii
#191 Posted : Wednesday, October 01, 2014 9:00:44 AM
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NSE INDEX at 5450 likely today or tomorrow. Otherwise I fear being long the market presently.
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mnandii
#192 Posted : Wednesday, October 01, 2014 9:01:52 AM
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poundfoolish wrote:
Metasploit wrote:
Boss..ur elliot wave never predicts upside price movements..just wondering


You missed the one that predicted Mpesa at 13:40?

And the posts on bull traps have been many and numerous...

smile
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mnandii
#193 Posted : Wednesday, October 01, 2014 9:21:27 AM
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Have this handy as we enter the deflationary period.



From socionomics.net
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mnandii
#194 Posted : Wednesday, October 01, 2014 2:19:39 PM
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My secondary school teacher used to tell us that our God is a god of order. There is evidence of this everywhere.

God's order is the Golden Spiral. Progress in nature is achieved by 3 steps forward and two steps backward. Hence the impulse wave.

There is nothing new under the sun!

From Wikipedia:
Quote:
In geometry, a golden spiral is a logarithmic spiral whose growth factor is φ, the golden ratio.[1] That is, a golden spiral gets wider (or further from its origin) by a factor of φ for every quarter turn it makes.
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mnandii
#195 Posted : Wednesday, October 01, 2014 2:33:22 PM
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To the point.

"Charts tell the truth", Prechter.

As I have stated for most of this year, we are in the cusp of a very large bear market. The charts lend credence to this.

To reiterate, the NSE 20 Share Index should drop, within the next two years, to below 2360. Yes. You read that right!

Long term working chart:




The NSE has been climbing in wave B which I now anticipate to end at 5473.4 points. Details below.
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DBLyon
#196 Posted : Wednesday, October 01, 2014 2:39:01 PM
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mnandii wrote:
My secondary school teacher used to tell us that our God is a god of order. There is evidence of this everywhere.

God's order is the Golden Spiral. Progress in nature is achieved by 3 steps forward and two steps backward. Hence the impulse wave.

There is nothing new under the sun!

From Wikipedia:
Quote:
In geometry, a golden spiral is a logarithmic spiral whose growth factor is φ, the golden ratio.[1] That is, a golden spiral gets wider (or further from its origin) by a factor of φ for every quarter turn it makes.


What a walk down memory lane. @mnandii, did you study mathematics? I'm trying to remember which mad professor taught us the Fibonacci series. It must have been in Stochastic Modelling. I don't remember much of what he taught, but I went away and read up on the golden ratio, fascinated by the occurrence in nature.
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DBLyon
#197 Posted : Wednesday, October 01, 2014 2:41:52 PM
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@mnandii, assuming you've taught yourself to read charts, kindly point me in a good direction to start to get some rudimentary knowledge? I know I saw some links a while back and possibly some books. Anyone with the link to those posts??
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mnandii
#198 Posted : Wednesday, October 01, 2014 2:42:21 PM
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NSE 20 share index has been in a triangle from April 2013 to recently. What we have now is a thrust from a triangle (which guys are wrongly thinking is a new bull market). Thrusts from triangles are ending moves. They show exhaustion of the main trend. When you see a triangle know that a reversal is at the corner.


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mnandii
#199 Posted : Wednesday, October 01, 2014 2:45:51 PM
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DBLyon wrote:
@mnandii, assuming you've taught yourself to read charts, kindly point me in a good direction to start to get some rudimentary knowledge? I know I saw some links a while back and possibly some books. Anyone with the link to those posts??

There is alot of resources on Elliott Waves. Just give me a moment. Am sorting you.
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mnandii
#200 Posted : Wednesday, October 01, 2014 3:24:01 PM
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Our triangle ended at 4863.87 points. The bull guys are happy about is the progressing impulse wave shown here.



So far we have waves 1,2, an extended wave 3 and a wave 4.

Like below:



Wave sizes:
Wave 1 = (5022.36-4863.87) = 158.49
Wave 2 = (5022.36-5003.78) = 18.58
Wave 3 = (5406.39-5003.78) = 402.61
Wave 4 = (5406.39-5216.96) = 189.43

Golden ratio relationships:

Wave 3 = Wave 1 X Fib. 2.618 = 414.93.
Accurate to within 12 points.

Wave 4 is about half wave 3.

Also notice alternation between waves 2 and 4.

Wave 2 is shallow and wave 4 goes deeply into wave 3.
Quote:
Alternation

The guideline of alternation is very broad in its application and warns the analyst always to expect a difference in the next expression of a similar wave. Hamilton Bolton said,

The writer is not convinced that alternation is inevitable in types of waves in larger formations, but there are frequent enough cases to suggest that one should look for it rather than the contrary.
Elliott Wave Principle: Key To Market Behaviour.

Quote:
Alternation Within Impulses

If wave two of an impulse is a sharp correction, expect wave four to be a sideways correction, and vice versa

Elliott Wave Principle: Key to Market Behaviour.

The target of 5473.4 is obtained following the guideline of equality which states that if wave 3 is extended then expect wave 5 to be related to wave 1 by equality. Failing equality, a Fibonacci multiple should be applied.

Thus:
Wave 1 = 158.49
If wave 5 = Wave 1, then wave 5 should end at 5375.
Since this level has been surpassed the next target is:
Wave 1 X 1.618 = 158.49 X 1.618 = 256.44 points.
Added to wave 4 low gives a target of 5473.4 i.e [5216.96 + 256.44]
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