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xyzee
#41 Posted : Saturday, September 27, 2014 9:29:42 PM
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you mean with a basic degree and nothing else you can rise to such heights aiiiiii.........
kaka2za
#42 Posted : Saturday, September 27, 2014 10:14:33 PM
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xyzee wrote:
you mean with a basic degree and nothing else you can rise to such heights aiiiiii.........


success is for the lucky not necessarily the best.
Truth forever on the scaffold
Wrong forever on the throne
(James Russell Rowell)
Ngong
#43 Posted : Saturday, September 27, 2014 10:26:19 PM
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xyzee wrote:
you mean with a basic degree and nothing else you can rise to such heights aiiiiii.........


Not you xyzee, wachia such comments and negative thoughts to the empty debes,hard work and strategy always wins
freiks
#44 Posted : Sunday, September 28, 2014 10:52:06 AM
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kaka2za wrote:
xyzee wrote:
you mean with a basic degree and nothing else you can rise to such heights aiiiiii.........


success is for the lucky not necessarily the best.

Hope someone would tell us how many Phds does Ban Ki Moon posses, i remember a story about a deputy secretary general representative in a mission who was a tea boy in UN hqs in his youth, rose through the ranks plus luck. Its not always about your papers but being at the right place at the right time
Life is an endless adventure
quicksand
#45 Posted : Sunday, September 28, 2014 11:46:16 AM
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xyzee wrote:
you mean with a basic degree and nothing else you can rise to such heights aiiiiii.........

Experience always trumps papers...nothing like having been out there and done it,...for many many years.
Where I work I see people struggle to add that MBA to their bag and then HR simply files a copy of your paper and life continues unchanged just like before. ..when positions open, its the hotshots who bring in the bread that get the position.
In short, read to educate your mind, not to gain an adavantage at work.
Impunity
#46 Posted : Sunday, September 28, 2014 2:27:43 PM
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Joined: 3/2/2009
Posts: 26,331
Location: Masada
quicksand wrote:
xyzee wrote:
you mean with a basic degree and nothing else you can rise to such heights aiiiiii.........

Experience always trumps papers...nothing like having been out there and done it,...for many many years.
Where I work I see people struggle to add that MBA to their bag and then HR simply files a copy of your paper and life continues unchanged just like before. ..when positions open, its the hotshots who bring in the bread that get the position.
In short, read to educate your mind, not to gain an adavantage at work.


For UN positions papers matter, please ask around.
This mama had extra curricula experiences!
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You know you've made it when you get a parking space for your yatcht.

maka
#47 Posted : Sunday, September 28, 2014 2:59:40 PM
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Joined: 4/22/2010
Posts: 11,522
Location: Nairobi
quicksand wrote:
xyzee wrote:
you mean with a basic degree and nothing else you can rise to such heights aiiiiii.........

Experience always trumps papers...nothing like having been out there and done it,...for many many years.
Where I work I see people struggle to add that MBA to their bag and then HR simply files a copy of your paper and life continues unchanged just like before. ..when positions open, its the hotshots who bring in the bread that get the position.
In short, read to educate your mind, not to gain an adavantage at work.



After school, he had to forgo a place at Warwick University because he was not eligible for funding. “I wanted to go to university and I disliked not having gone and for some years after I wished I’d gone,” he says. “Now it doesn’t matter, [but] I would always advise a young person to go to the best university you can find.”
When graduates ask for his advice, however, he preaches the value of being able to adapt, an attribute that has driven his own career. Unable to pursue a degree, Mr Collymore spent his time filling forms as a junior underwriter and working as a train announcer while pursuing his passion for “surrealist stuff”.
Were it not for his mother, he might still be selling his oil paintings along the railings of Hyde Park. But she joked she would evict him unless he got a serious job and got him an interview at British Telecom, where she worked. He was given an entry-level job as a clerical officer.
His career took off when he joined the UK’s Cellnet in 1993, just as the corporate world was starting to venture into mobile telephony. “I was walking down a path no one else had walked and I thought, ‘this is good because the rules aren’t written and I’m just going to make the rules up as I go’,” he says. “We took some risks. This change thing – it is actually quite exciting, it’s good, and you will make mistakes and you will stumble and fall and that’s quite neat.”
The hankering after new ground and love of adaptability has served him well. “I didn’t go to the smart university; this is probably the only thing which has ever distinguished me,” he says. “Nothing beats this job.”
possunt quia posse videntur
quicksand
#48 Posted : Sunday, September 28, 2014 3:34:14 PM
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Posts: 2,061
Location: Nairobi
Impunity wrote:
quicksand wrote:
xyzee wrote:
you mean with a basic degree and nothing else you can rise to such heights aiiiiii.........

Experience always trumps papers...nothing like having been out there and done it,...for many many years.
Where I work I see people struggle to add that MBA to their bag and then HR simply files a copy of your paper and life continues unchanged just like before. ..when positions open, its the hotshots who bring in the bread that get the position.
In short, read to educate your mind, not to gain an adavantage at work.


For UN positions papers matter, please ask around.
This mama had extra curricula experiences!

Papers matter as a differentiator when candidates have a similar depth of experience. Perhaps she was more roundly qualified than any other candidate for the job. In any case, the UN is not a River Road establishment. There must be serious scrutiny and vetting of decisions.
What is disconcerting though is your increasing tendency to make presumptions of immoral sexual conduct where women (men too sometimes) are concerned. You have no evidence! Is anyone safe from your accusations?
It is very narrow thinking, learn something useful today and try to grow out of it. Or at least keep it to yourself.
Swenani
#49 Posted : Sunday, September 28, 2014 4:03:16 PM
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Joined: 8/15/2013
Posts: 13,237
Location: Vacuum
Impunity wrote:
quicksand wrote:
xyzee wrote:
you mean with a basic degree and nothing else you can rise to such heights aiiiiii.........

Experience always trumps papers...nothing like having been out there and done it,...for many many years.
Where I work I see people struggle to add that MBA to their bag and then HR simply files a copy of your paper and life continues unchanged just like before. ..when positions open, its the hotshots who bring in the bread that get the position.
In short, read to educate your mind, not to gain an adavantage at work.


For UN positions papers matter, please ask around.
This mama had extra curricula experiences!

Shame on you Shame on you Shame on you Shame on you Shame on you Shame on you Shame on you
If Obiero did it, Who Am I?
murchr
#50 Posted : Sunday, September 28, 2014 4:04:37 PM
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Joined: 2/26/2012
Posts: 15,980
quicksand wrote:
Impunity wrote:
quicksand wrote:
xyzee wrote:
you mean with a basic degree and nothing else you can rise to such heights aiiiiii.........

Experience always trumps papers...nothing like having been out there and done it,...for many many years.
Where I work I see people struggle to add that MBA to their bag and then HR simply files a copy of your paper and life continues unchanged just like before. ..when positions open, its the hotshots who bring in the bread that get the position.
In short, read to educate your mind, not to gain an adavantage at work.


For UN positions papers matter, please ask around.
This mama had extra curricula experiences!

Papers matter as a differentiator when candidates have a similar depth of experience. Perhaps she was more roundly qualified than any other candidate for the job. In any case, the UN is not a River Road establishment. There must be serious scrutiny and vetting of decisions.
What is disconcerting though is your increasing tendency to make presumptions of immoral sexual conduct where women (men too sometimes) are concerned. You have no evidence! Is anyone safe from your accusations?
It is very narrow thinking, learn something useful today and try to grow out of it. Or at least keep it to yourself.


Papers dont matter much out there, its how you sell yourself with your experience...networking. Someone told me that education is not prove that you can do a job, rather it just demonstrates that you can take instructions.

The other thing...who is noticing the attention that Kenya has been getting oflate? Geopolitics at play
"There are only two emotions in the market, hope & fear. The problem is you hope when you should fear & fear when you should hope: - Jesse Livermore
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