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Rank: Elder Joined: 7/11/2012 Posts: 5,222
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masukuma wrote:Mukiri wrote:In short, you want Africa to become America or Europe no... I want africa to be a better Africa. Africa will never be any of those places you are talking about? We took on the white man's education did we become Europe? no we became a better Africa! we took on the White man's Medicine did we become Europe? We have adapted his computing.... have we become Europe? We are all about being a better Africa. A better land for our children. Correct me if I'm wrong but isn't a better Africa 'for our children' one where their basic necessities are guaranteed? Food, Cloth and shelter? One where they get a decent education and thereafter opportunities to ply their trades? Where they have access to clean water and good healthy food? One where they are safe and free from corruption and can enjoy a quality life? Ama what exactly does 'A better Africa mean'? One full of rockets and satellites?
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Rank: Elder Joined: 6/17/2008 Posts: 23,365 Location: Nairobi
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.....In my field I respect the Indians, with technology borrowed from Europe and taken to Asia coz of the cheap labour one thing normally stand out, Chinese copy even mistakes, Indians seek to know why it is that way and even improve the machines!!!! ..."Wewe ni mtu mdogo sana....na mwenye amekuandika pia ni mtu mdogo sana!".
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Rank: Elder Joined: 10/4/2006 Posts: 13,822 Location: Nairobi
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Mukiri wrote:masukuma wrote:Mukiri wrote:In short, you want Africa to become America or Europe no... I want africa to be a better Africa. Africa will never be any of those places you are talking about? We took on the white man's education did we become Europe? no we became a better Africa! we took on the White man's Medicine did we become Europe? We have adapted his computing.... have we become Europe? We are all about being a better Africa. A better land for our children. Correct me if I'm wrong but isn't a better Africa 'for our children' one where their basic necessities are guaranteed? Food, Cloth and shelter? One where they get a decent education and thereafter opportunities to ply their trades? Where they have access to clean water and good healthy food? One where they are safe and free from corruption and can enjoy a quality life? Ama what exactly does 'A better Africa mean'? One full of rockets and satellites? yani better is subsistence to you? what you describe is exactly what I went through (I appreciate that not everyone did that but most of the people here had food, clothing, shelter, went to fairly good schools and got an opportunity to ply my trade as soon as i cleared school). i had access to clean water and good healthy food. ION those things should be provided by parents. a society that is better is a society where gava does things that individuals cannot do... build roads, do proper research e.t.c. a space program should be in my mind what iHub is to technology... a research hub where minds meet and solve problems. a space program that imports expensive technology is a waste but one that builds its own should be funded. @Mukiri, a gava should be able to skate stairs and chew gum at the same time. All Mushrooms are edible! Some Mushroom are only edible ONCE!
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Rank: Elder Joined: 7/11/2012 Posts: 5,222
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masukuma wrote:Mukiri wrote:masukuma wrote:Mukiri wrote:In short, you want Africa to become America or Europe no... I want africa to be a better Africa. Africa will never be any of those places you are talking about? We took on the white man's education did we become Europe? no we became a better Africa! we took on the White man's Medicine did we become Europe? We have adapted his computing.... have we become Europe? We are all about being a better Africa. A better land for our children. Correct me if I'm wrong but isn't a better Africa 'for our children' one where their basic necessities are guaranteed? Food, Cloth and shelter? One where they get a decent education and thereafter opportunities to ply their trades? Where they have access to clean water and good healthy food? One where they are safe and free from corruption and can enjoy a quality life? Ama what exactly does 'A better Africa mean'? One full of rockets and satellites? yani better is subsistence to you? what you describe is exactly what I went through (I appreciate that not everyone did that but most of the people here had food, clothing, shelter, went to fairly good schools and got an opportunity to ply my trade as soon as i cleared school). i had access to clean water and good healthy food. ION those things should be provided by parents. a society that is better is a society where gava does things that individuals cannot do... build roads, do proper research e.t.c. a space program should be in my mind what iHub is to technology... a research hub where minds meet and solve problems. a space program that imports expensive technology is a waste but one that builds its own should be funded. @Mukiri, a gava should be able to skate stairs and chew gum at the same time. Yenyewe this one we'll just agree to dis-agree. You see, you are in the 1/3 bracket(had you been in India). Picture a 2/3 poor. So poor that what to you is brushed aside as subsistence, to them it's a dream, a mirage that can only be attainable with some help... help from where? ... Fill in the gaps. Yes, Gava collectively does what no single man can do eg roads, elec, sanitation, research... but those things serve to enhance basic needs ie By use of the roads food can get to the market, kids can go to schools etc You tell 2/3 % of the population, that is church mouse poor, that you took a rocket somewhere, for them!
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Rank: Elder Joined: 10/4/2006 Posts: 13,822 Location: Nairobi
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Mukiri wrote:masukuma wrote:Mukiri wrote:masukuma wrote:Mukiri wrote:In short, you want Africa to become America or Europe no... I want africa to be a better Africa. Africa will never be any of those places you are talking about? We took on the white man's education did we become Europe? no we became a better Africa! we took on the White man's Medicine did we become Europe? We have adapted his computing.... have we become Europe? We are all about being a better Africa. A better land for our children. Correct me if I'm wrong but isn't a better Africa 'for our children' one where their basic necessities are guaranteed? Food, Cloth and shelter? One where they get a decent education and thereafter opportunities to ply their trades? Where they have access to clean water and good healthy food? One where they are safe and free from corruption and can enjoy a quality life? Ama what exactly does 'A better Africa mean'? One full of rockets and satellites? yani better is subsistence to you? what you describe is exactly what I went through (I appreciate that not everyone did that but most of the people here had food, clothing, shelter, went to fairly good schools and got an opportunity to ply my trade as soon as i cleared school). i had access to clean water and good healthy food. ION those things should be provided by parents. a society that is better is a society where gava does things that individuals cannot do... build roads, do proper research e.t.c. a space program should be in my mind what iHub is to technology... a research hub where minds meet and solve problems. a space program that imports expensive technology is a waste but one that builds its own should be funded. @Mukiri, a gava should be able to skate stairs and chew gum at the same time. Yenyewe this one we'll just agree to dis-agree. You see, you are in the 1/3 bracket(had you been in India). Picture a 2/3 poor. So poor that what to you is brushed aside as subsistence, to the is a dream, a mirage that can only be attainable with some help... help from where? ... Fill in the gaps. Yes, Gava collectively does what no single man can do eg roads, elec, sanitation, research... but those things serve to enhance basic needs ie By use of the roads food can get to the market, kids can go to schools etc You tell 2/3 % of the population that you took a rocket somewhere, for them! the problem is that you see a space program as only being the sending of rockets into space. Read my prior comment on the benefits of a space program. No one has commented on those benefits instead people focus on a "rocket" that is worth 6 billion (2/3 the cost of the BVR devices we imported). the space program in India's case is a billion dollar project a year. hiring lots of scientists to do what they do best - solve problems. the current setup in our country is that our scientists are either teaching in university or working in banks!! All Mushrooms are edible! Some Mushroom are only edible ONCE!
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Rank: Elder Joined: 3/18/2011 Posts: 12,069 Location: Kianjokoma
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masukuma wrote:perhaps the clarification that needs to be done is that mali ya umma is not mali ya maskini. public resources don't belong to the poor! public resources are supposed to assist us do stuff that we cannot do individually! 
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Rank: Elder Joined: 2/26/2012 Posts: 15,980
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India test fires advanced version of BrahMos missile"There are only two emotions in the market, hope & fear. The problem is you hope when you should fear & fear when you should hope: - Jesse Livermore
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Rank: Elder Joined: 10/4/2006 Posts: 13,822 Location: Nairobi
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tuendelee kujifeed. heck lets turn all our advanced degrees into agricultural degrees. All Mushrooms are edible! Some Mushroom are only edible ONCE!
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Rank: Veteran Joined: 10/9/2006 Posts: 1,502
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masukuma wrote:tuendelee kujifeed. heck lets turn all our advanced degrees into agricultural degrees. They can't even design a simple farming wheelbarrow. Only bragging the empty titles work to prosper
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Rank: Elder Joined: 10/4/2006 Posts: 13,822 Location: Nairobi
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as you guys put all your effort in trying to figure out how to ensure that seeds thrown in dirt germinate successfully as it has happened for eons in this planet. Mangalyaan is now heading to MarsAll Mushrooms are edible! Some Mushroom are only edible ONCE!
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Rank: Elder Joined: 10/4/2006 Posts: 13,822 Location: Nairobi
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check out the updates as they counted down http://indiatoday.intoda...riharikota/1/327243.htmlAll Mushrooms are edible! Some Mushroom are only edible ONCE!
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Rank: Elder Joined: 10/4/2006 Posts: 13,822 Location: Nairobi
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in other news a Brazil/China satellite fails to orbit http://blink.htcsense.co...&articleid=16405669
All Mushrooms are edible! Some Mushroom are only edible ONCE!
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Rank: Veteran Joined: 2/12/2008 Posts: 1,178
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The comfort zone mentality is what plagues us. We think with our stomach, that's why the 'government has to feed us' before erecting a bridge across Likoni. Trouble with thinking with your stomach is that eating is a continuous activity foraging is therefore an hour to hour engagement that leaves little time for any other engagement. And with a full tummy comes breeding...
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Rank: Elder Joined: 12/17/2009 Posts: 3,583 Location: Kenya
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willin2learn wrote:The comfort zone mentality is what plagues us. We think with our stomach, that's why the 'government has to feed us' before erecting a bridge across Likoni. Trouble with thinking with your stomach is that eating is a continuous activity foraging is therefore an hour to hour engagement that leaves little time for any other engagement. And with a full tummy comes breeding...
and lots of sleeping
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Rank: Elder Joined: 10/4/2006 Posts: 13,822 Location: Nairobi
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Mangalyaan arrives... money and technology do not solve problems... THINKING DOES! Good job India! All Mushrooms are edible! Some Mushroom are only edible ONCE!
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Rank: Elder Joined: 10/23/2009 Posts: 2,375
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Mission Accomplished!!!!! It is better to keep your mouth closed and let people think you are a fool than to open it and remove all doubt...
-Mark Twain
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Rank: Elder Joined: 10/4/2006 Posts: 13,822 Location: Nairobi
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 India's space programme has succeeded at the first attempt where others have failed - by sending an operational mission to Mars. The Mangalyaan satellite was confirmed to be in orbit shortly after 0800, Indian time. It is, without doubt, a considerable achievement. This is a mission that has been budgeted at 4.5bn rupees ($74m), which, by Western standards, is staggeringly cheap. The American Maven orbiter that arrived at the Red Planet on Monday is costing almost 10 times as much. Back in June, Indian Prime Minister Narendra Modi even quipped that India's real-life Martian adventure was costing less than the make-believe Hollywood film Gravity. All Mushrooms are edible! Some Mushroom are only edible ONCE!
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Rank: Veteran Joined: 11/17/2012 Posts: 1,461 Location: Ngong Forest
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masukuma wrote:India's space programme has succeeded at the first attempt where others have failed - by sending an operational mission to Mars. The Mangalyaan satellite was confirmed to be in orbit shortly after 0800, Indian time. It is, without doubt, a considerable achievement. This is a mission that has been budgeted at 4.5bn rupees ($74m), which, by Western standards, is staggeringly cheap. The American Maven orbiter that arrived at the Red Planet on Monday is costing almost 10 times as much. Back in June, Indian Prime Minister Narendra Modi even quipped that India's real-life Martian adventure was costing less than the make-believe Hollywood film Gravity. The case here is about two phones,one a smartphone and a mulika mwizi,si simu ni simu?
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