@Alph Jesus was never on the cross.. Those words were said by Judas Isacriot who God put in the place of Jesus for death after he trying to betray God's messenger!

Unlike you, there are myriad additional text that can be referred to when talking about that point.

Nukuu moja umeshindwa nayo lakini umeona ni jambo la busara kabisa kurukia hoja langu na Ndugu as if umeulizwa swali kulihusu.

Mnafiki!!!!!

@muriel, you say:
1. Jesus (pbuh) died on the cross to pay for your sins
2. You say this is the idea of atonement of sin
3. You say people are born with sin

Don't you know the verses talking about this idea have now been expunged from your Bible?

You see it is the most nonsensical idea on earth. Adam and eve sinning, and you're going to go to hell for that. And the way out is that, the same God now, He knows there is no way, no way He can change these people. So He must come down to earth, go into a woman's womb and live there for 9 months, born like any other human child. With all the blood and the marks and the umbilical code, which made his mother impure for 40 days says the Bible. Circumcised on the 8th day. Living like any other human being, drinking milk from his mothers breast, wetting his napkins, eating food, having a call of nature, and beaten and chased around. Your Almighty God of this universe, He took that role and He died for you at the age of 33...

Please brother what is this? Where did you get these stuff from? Give us an opportunity, it is about time the Muslims took it up. That this most nonsensical idea on earth are getting converts?

Let me read you Quran, Sura Iklas chapter 112:1-4 called The Purity of Faith.
In the name of Allah, Most Gracious, Most Merciful.
1. Say: He is Allah, the One and Only;
2. Allah, the Eternal, Absolute;
3. He begetteth not, nor is He begotten;
4. And there is none like unto Him.

@symbol, the verse John 3:16, used when preaching to justify atonement "the only BEGOTTEN!" has now been unceremoniously expunged from the Bible by your Bible revisers as a fabrication. And they didn't tell you of course!

If you can lay your hand on the RSV 1952, and compare with newer version. If you were an honest Christian and admit that you cannot consider a footnote as the Word of God.

You will be surprised also to realize that Mark chapter 16 ends on verse 8. Now the Bibles put a foot at the bottom of the page as

Muriel, I've spent so much time today thinking about the archbishop of Canterbury in the context of my own spiritual experience. While searching my mind and spirit, his words came over and over.

And as the day closed it dawned on me that till the moment, I had a dearth of pure thought. 'What's a pure thought?' I wondered. After some reflection I saw that a pure thought is one that is totally selfless, and loving. A kind of thought that involves transcending day to day relationships and reality. A kind of thought that's of 'God'. Thoughts of the true Self.

It's interesting that though no man has seen God with his physical eye, seeing the true Self with the spiritual eye one can see 'God' so clearly.

'Indwelling' was the word that came to my head upon these thoughts. And thus was the archbishop's puzzle resolved. He was thinking about the mystical using religious symbols and his socio-political role. He wasn't having the thoughts of the true Self. He was careful and experiencing things around his social status and context. And his context is full of doubt.