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ecstacy
#401 Posted : Monday, September 15, 2014 3:40:53 PM
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Kihara joni wrote:
5000 shares nitakufa na hizi unless it hots 100, then you can all have it.


You need to read up on this rule when investing in the markets: "Never fall in love with a stock"..
maka
#402 Posted : Monday, September 15, 2014 3:48:24 PM
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littledove wrote:
wannaberich wrote:
ecstacy wrote:
sparkly wrote:

at 11am today

Demand:
467000 @ 23.50
27700 @ 23.25
45600 @ 23.00
800 @ 22.50
577500 @ 22.00

Supply: 0 (Zero)





Nobody is letting go of this share.Sad

im letting mine go tomorrow at 25.50, i cant hold any longer


Good idea...
possunt quia posse videntur
mlennyma
#403 Posted : Monday, September 15, 2014 4:20:44 PM
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The share is tired of rallying,I wont be surprised to see patches of red colour on it tomorrow
"Don't let the fear of losing be greater than the excitement of winning."
goodlord2
#404 Posted : Monday, September 15, 2014 6:05:36 PM
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hi sasa ni kali 0 supply Vs 2.5mn demand,NSE stocks zimekua more than gold kupata......naona 30shs ndio kusema sasa
cyruskulei
#405 Posted : Monday, September 15, 2014 6:31:19 PM
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Metasploit wrote:
Metasploit wrote:
Metasploit wrote:
hisah wrote:
At the current VWAP of 16.25/- the IPO listing has vaulted 71.05% with listing price of 9.50/- while today's high is 18/-

The make belief rally just like HAFR...


Hisah..HAFR didnt have volumes at Debut.It was a classic Pump and dump

The only worry is that it has listed when Global Equities are topping and esp NSE when KE economy speaks otherwise.

This guy had volumes..sell volumes mid morning,afternoon buyers took over!!

Big guys sold..speculative money bought alot at 15-15.50..Greed bought at 17-17.40

From next week speculative money will start selling.Here it is about exit strategy

Let see how it plays tomorrow






Good volumes second day..

Demand of 2.18M with a split of 22!!Watching to see the action of the big boys.

Maybe the big boys want the demand to raise to 4M + and swallow it.I will be keen to see the closing price and closing demand volume today
If the herd will keep demand up for the third day AND the trading volume is low by afternoon,i will make a speculative entry tomorrow afternoon.

This one needs lots of caution!!



OK..

A demand of 1M shares at 17.90 ( split of 1 meaning 1 buyer) has been withdrawn..Demand at 17.90 remains 1.3M shares (split of 34).This means many small guys buying at small volumes(average of 38,000 shares).Will they hold up demand or will they make the big guys sell ?

If the demand wont raise significantly from 1.3M,SOMEONE WILL SELL A BLOCK OF 1.3M and resistance will be set at 18

Work hard at your job and you can make a living. Work hard on yourself and you can make a fortune.

Metasploit
#406 Posted : Monday, September 15, 2014 6:45:33 PM
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Metasploit wrote:
mwekez@ji wrote:
maka wrote:
mwekez@ji wrote:
Demand at 17.90, NO supply


Won't people become disinterested and focus on other stocks?If I have my buy order at 18 and nobody wants to sell il just move to another counter...


Some people want in for their own varied reasons and going by the current build up in demand, they seem not to be the type that give up easily


You right Mwekezaji..the splits(now at 27) speak of irrational buyers!

These buyers can push prices to unreasonable HIGH levels (when buying) and unreasonable LOW volumes (when they decide sell)


Buyers are still irrational..how high will they still push ???

Check out closing volume and prices tomorrow..speculative money will start selling this week.

“The pessimist complains about the wind; the optimist expects it to change; the realist adjusts the sails.”
abkon2014
#407 Posted : Monday, September 15, 2014 11:09:19 PM
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I should now quit at 25.50 tomorrow.
mibbz
#408 Posted : Tuesday, September 16, 2014 3:24:09 AM
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Over a week after listing,doomsday investors had predicted a 12 bob in fact sub 9.5 price but it still is above 100% returns. I have always believed judging stocks on the exchange by pure book value/fundamentals might lead to a high opportunity cost should one chose to forgo that purchase.NSE being a good example,hoe do you value it based on pure fundamentals yet there is no measure to compare it to in the region & more importantly,how do you attach a value to investors buying it not for profit but for the potential upside it presents in terms of board seats thus influencing policy and having a say in future strategic moves such as derivatives.

All in all many of us have booked over 100% returns upon selling and no mater how many arguments are presented on its valuation,fact is money is back at a decent multiple.

sparkly
#409 Posted : Tuesday, September 16, 2014 6:09:55 AM
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mibbz wrote:
Over a week after listing,doomsday investors had predicted a 12 bob in fact sub 9.5 price but it still is above 100% returns. I have always believed judging stocks on the exchange by pure book value/fundamentals might lead to a high opportunity cost should one chose to forgo that purchase.NSE being a good example,hoe do you value it based on pure fundamentals yet there is no measure to compare it to in the region & more importantly,how do you attach a value to investors buying it not for profit but for the potential upside it presents in terms of board seats thus influencing policy and having a say in future strategic moves such as derivatives.

All in all many of us have booked over 100% returns upon selling and no mater how many arguments are presented on its valuation,fact is money is back at a decent multiple.



Such posts are a sign of extreme infatuation with the stock.

Watch out bcoz even if it rises to 1,000 it will surely come down.
Life is short. Live passionately.
mlennyma
#410 Posted : Tuesday, September 16, 2014 7:43:13 AM
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Pple must be happy that this stock has greatly restored the lost hope that ipo's are a waste of time and resources,in future one will have to judge ipo's soberly but not outright dismissing them,kudos nse share and wish all well as I sell today and wait for the fall predicting prophets if it will ever come.
"Don't let the fear of losing be greater than the excitement of winning."
muraggz
#411 Posted : Tuesday, September 16, 2014 10:07:02 AM
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Oh My!!d'oh! d'oh! d'oh! this is the season of harvest but unfortunately maybe not for all!!
innovator
#412 Posted : Tuesday, September 16, 2014 10:23:45 AM
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muraggz wrote:
Oh My!!d'oh! d'oh! d'oh! this is the season of harvest but unfortunately maybe not for all!!


For those who sowed.
hisah
#413 Posted : Tuesday, September 16, 2014 10:26:25 AM
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@metaspoilt - Have you been keenly checking the bid splits since last Thursday?

Spot the dragon-fly candle pattern on yesterdays chart


When dragonfly patterns start appearing on uptrends a reversal is not very far... From the chart projection 25.50 is the likely top.

Congrats to those that have taken profit.

Goodluck to those that are still waiting for more profits.

$15/barrel oil... The commodities lehman moment arrives as well as Sovereign debt volcano!
muganda
#414 Posted : Tuesday, September 16, 2014 10:32:32 AM
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mibbz wrote:
Over a week after listing,doomsday investors had predicted a 12 bob in fact sub 9.5 price but it still is above 100% returns. I have always believed judging stocks on the exchange by pure book value/fundamentals might lead to a high opportunity cost should one chose to forgo that purchase.NSE being a good example,hoe do you value it based on pure fundamentals yet there is no measure to compare it to in the region & more importantly,how do you attach a value to investors buying it not for profit but for the potential upside it presents in terms of board seats thus influencing policy and having a say in future strategic moves such as derivatives.

All in all many of us have booked over 100% returns upon selling and no mater how many arguments are presented on its valuation,fact is money is back at a decent multiple.

@mibbz, your post has insight, of the folly of plotting trends or studying ratios in a bid to foretell the madness of men or the whims of the market. Speechless, all I can pose is:

Am I wrong for thinking out the box from where I stay?
Am I wrong for saying that I choose another way?

I ain't tryna do what everybody else doing
Just cause everybody doing what they all do
If one thing I know, I'll fall but I'll grow
I'm walking down this road of mine, this road that I call home

Nico & Vinz


Sober
#415 Posted : Tuesday, September 16, 2014 11:09:03 AM
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hisah wrote:
@metaspoilt - Have you been keenly checking the bid splits since last Thursday?

Spot the dragon-fly candle pattern on yesterdays chart


When dragonfly patterns start appearing on uptrends a reversal is not very far... From the chart projection 25.50 is the likely top.

Congrats to those that have taken profit.

Goodluck to those that are still waiting for more profits.



It is evident that the rising in the price has nothing to do with the fundamentals of the market rather than supply and demand where every one wants to hold onto what they were allocated yet the brokers do now want to open the taps and let some of them to the market, they would even rather take up what the smaller boys are offering to see. Wait until the supply is zero for a week.
African parents don't know how to say sorry.. the closest you will get to a sorry is a 'have you eaten'
hisah
#416 Posted : Tuesday, September 16, 2014 11:14:43 AM
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@sober - I can assure you that this thread next year will be full of lesson learnt. This market is topping and the TA signs are there as well as the econ fundies say so.
$15/barrel oil... The commodities lehman moment arrives as well as Sovereign debt volcano!
Kihara joni
#417 Posted : Tuesday, September 16, 2014 11:21:34 AM
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Just sold everything, off with the loot.
iMANI
#418 Posted : Tuesday, September 16, 2014 11:23:52 AM
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Kihara joni wrote:
Just sold everything, off with the loot.


and the downward trend begins...
Life and beer are very similar........chill for best results.


ecstacy
#419 Posted : Tuesday, September 16, 2014 11:37:05 AM
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Kihara joni wrote:
Just sold everything, off with the loot.


I can see you listened to the counsel..you should buy a round of drinks at the mbuzi smile
ecstacy
#420 Posted : Tuesday, September 16, 2014 11:55:15 AM
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Now as for the people who've bought at Ksh 25.50/= msiseme you were not told..
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