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Rank: Elder Joined: 1/21/2010 Posts: 6,675 Location: Nairobi
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newfarer wrote:saw this:
ﻭَﻟَﻘَﺪْ ﺧَﻠَﻘْﻨَﺎ ﺍﻟْﺈِﻧﺴَﺎﻥَ ﻣِﻦ ﺳُﻠَﺎﻟَﺔٍ ﻣِّﻦ ﻃِﻴﻦٍ
ﺛُﻢَّ ﺟَﻌَﻠْﻨَﺎﻩُ ﻧُﻄْﻔَﺔً ﻓِﻲ ﻗَﺮَﺍﺭٍ ﻣَّﻜِﻴﻦٍ
ﺛُﻢَّ ﺧَﻠَﻘْﻨَﺎ ﺍﻟﻨُّﻄْﻔَﺔَ ﻋَﻠَﻘَﺔً ﻓَﺨَﻠَﻘْﻨَﺎ ﺍﻟْﻌَﻠَﻘَﺔَ ﻣُﻀْﻐَﺔً ﻓَﺨَﻠَﻘْﻨَﺎ
ﺍﻟْﻤُﻀْﻐَﺔَ ﻋِﻈَﺎﻣًﺎ ﻓَﻜَﺴَﻮْﻧَﺎ ﺍﻟْﻌِﻈَﺎﻡَ ﻟَﺤْﻤًﺎ ﺛُﻢَّ ﺃَﻧﺸَﺄْﻧَﺎﻩُ ﺧَﻠْﻘًﺎ
ﺁﺧَﺮَ ﻓَﺘَﺒَﺎﺭَﻙَ ﺍﻟﻠَّﻪُ ﺃَﺣْﺴَﻦُ ﺍﻟْﺨَﺎﻟِﻘِﻴﻦَ
“Verily We created man from a product of wet
earth; then placed him as a drop (of seed) in a
safe lodging; then We fashioned the drop into a
clot, then We fashioned the clot into a little
lump, then We fashioned the little lump into
bones, then clothed the bones with flesh, and
then produced it another creation. So blessed be
Allah, the Best of Creators !” [23:12-14]
alpha explain the WE...part in reference to Trinity "We" that God uses has never meant Trinity! This a symbol of power! The Messiah said in Mark 12:29 "This is the most important commandment; Listen, O Israel! The Lord OUR God is ONE!" Notice how the Messiah says "Our God"!! This verse should show Christians that Jesus will never be God and Trinity talk is simply poppycock  Mark 12:29
Deuteronomy 4:16
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Rank: Elder Joined: 3/19/2010 Posts: 3,505 Location: Uganda
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guru I am not satisfied that we means power. We is the plural of I. but some issues are out of our understanding alpha your take please punda amecheka
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Rank: Elder Joined: 1/21/2010 Posts: 6,675 Location: Nairobi
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newfarer wrote:guru I am not satisfied
that we means power www.wikipedia.org/wiki/Royal_weLearn something new! Mark 12:29
Deuteronomy 4:16
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Rank: Elder Joined: 6/20/2008 Posts: 6,275 Location: Kenya
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Rank: Elder Joined: 6/20/2008 Posts: 6,275 Location: Kenya
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Misconceptions about Islam. 
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Rank: Member Joined: 11/19/2009 Posts: 3,142
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AlphDoti wrote:@muriel, no problem get stuck in juicy propagandas and refuse to see sense. We will share with you the "exposae" then when somebody courageous enough will expose these Super Power and you will go  Unfortunately, you'll be busy cheering on another "false flag". You think the caliphate is juicy propaganda???!!!! (at least its 'juicy'). All along I knew you are a murtad. You will see! Just wait! Even the little girls are joining the caliphate to partake the juice of pure Islamic holiness and you, a grown man, can only call it propaganda? From within the relative safety of Kenya? Anyway, please do share the exposé and while you are here, can we continue our discussion on the Qur'an? Or are you busy with the false flag exposé?
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Rank: Elder Joined: 6/20/2008 Posts: 6,275 Location: Kenya
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Muriel wrote:AlphDoti wrote:@muriel, no problem get stuck in juicy propagandas and refuse to see sense. We will share with you the "exposae" then when somebody courageous enough will expose these Super Power and you will go Unfortunately, you'll be busy cheering on another "false flag". You think the caliphate is juicy propaganda???!!!! (at least its 'juicy'). All along I knew you are a murtad. You will see! Just wait! Even the little girls are joining the caliphate to partake the juice of pure Islamic holiness and you, a grown man, can only call it propaganda? From within the relative safety of Kenya? Anyway, please do share the exposé and while you are here, can we continue our discussion on the Qur'an? Or are you busy with the false flag exposé? @muriel, let us discuss comparative issues, because when it come to your attitude on world conflicts, I put that aside. You talk about things you have little knowledge about... "Oh murtad", "oh Muslim", yet you don't really know the meaning. Your attack on a form of religious belief is too simplified and ignorant of world affairs. And demonization of Muslims as a whole makes your response discriminative. Why do I say this? Your assertion that war in Middle East or twin-tower bombing or ISIS is caused by religion was ridiculous. It may look like it, but it may not be. So you're rushing into conclusion too fast. You need to read more about these kind of politics, and you will find that while some participants happily shout the name of God (allegedly), religion has nothing to do with these wars. These wars have to do more with economic and political collapse than religion or ancient hatred. Why? Take Israel-Palestinian conflict for example, these people lived peacefully for those years. But now? So I tell you most of these things are propaganda, and I will say it from the relative safety of my country Kenya. Whether you like it or not Kenya is my country. I pay tax, some of my kin are in the military defending the country (even from outside the country). Some of my kin are in important functions of this country, participating nation building. And I participate in what I participate in to build the country. Don't think the country is yours. And don't think the country only belongs to Christians. If you think so, then you're naive and discriminative.
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Rank: Elder Joined: 1/21/2010 Posts: 6,675 Location: Nairobi
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"The Holy Prophet (PBUH) said,
'The last day will not come until Prayers
will be neglected, carnal desires will be
pursued, transgressors will become
leaders, it will not be possible to
distinguish the faithful from the false,
telling lies will become desirable,
payment of Zakah will be taken as a
burden, the believer will be deemed the
most disgraceful. Rain will fall out of season. Males will commit adultery with males, and
females with females. Women will
dominate. The offspring will disobey
their parents, friend will treat his friend
badly, sins will be taken lightly. Mosques
will have external decorations and
beauty and there will be worshippers
too but there will be hypocrisy and
mutual enmity in their hearts. Then will
appear a people from the West who will
dominate the weak among my people.
People will produce copies of the Holy
Quran in letters of gold but will not act
upon it. Usury will become
rampant. Human blood will have no
value, religion will have no helpers.
Singing women will be on the increase.
The rich will perform the Hajjas as a
pastime, the people of the middle class
will do so to conduct business and the
poor to beg for charity."Mark 12:29
Deuteronomy 4:16
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Rank: Elder Joined: 6/20/2008 Posts: 6,275 Location: Kenya
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guru267 wrote:"The Holy Prophet (PBUH) said,
'The last day will not come until Prayers
will be neglected, carnal desires will be
pursued, transgressors will become
leaders, it will not be possible to
distinguish the faithful from the false,
telling lies will become desirable,
payment of Zakah will be taken as a
burden, the believer will be deemed the
most disgraceful. Rain will fall out of season. Males will commit adultery with males, and
females with females. Women will
dominate. The offspring will disobey
their parents, friend will treat his friend
badly, sins will be taken lightly. Mosques
will have external decorations and
beauty and there will be worshippers
too but there will be hypocrisy and
mutual enmity in their hearts. Then will
appear a people from the West who will
dominate the weak among my people.
People will produce copies of the Holy
Quran in letters of gold but will not act
upon it. Usury will become
rampant. Human blood will have no
value, religion will have no helpers.
Singing women will be on the increase.
The rich will perform the Hajjas as a
pastime, the people of the middle class
will do so to conduct business and the
poor to beg for charity." La ilaha illahah! Good to hear from you Things and beings can't do! Allah Alone does all things with no help from anything. Nobody can harm unless Allah wishes. Sunnah of the prophet Muhammad (pbuh) is the only lifestyle that gives you succees in this world and hereafter. Any other lifestyle (mohok, kusag, pombe, drugs, prostitution, fornication, mpangos...) will give you loss in this world and hereafter!
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