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Rank: Elder Joined: 7/20/2007 Posts: 4,432
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This is one confusing thread. You have someone who wants help from a specific person. The person answers very quickly obviously in order to be in the good books of the person asking for help. Then about turn. The potential client is in three sentences told they are unprofessional, uneducated, not loaded, not serious and not worthy. Talk about a vetting process that turned on the vettor. Jose: If I make it through this thug life, I'll see you one day. The Lord is the only way to stop the hurt.
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Rank: Veteran Joined: 11/2/2006 Posts: 1,206 Location: Nairobi
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alma wrote:This is one confusing thread.
You have someone who wants help from a specific person. The person answers very quickly obviously in order to be in the good books of the person asking for help.
Then about turn. The potential client is in three sentences told they are unprofessional, uneducated, not loaded, not serious and not worthy.
Talk about a vetting process that turned on the vettor. I agree with you Bro. It was rather harsh of A4 to reply in such a manner. Formally employed people often live their employers' dream & forget about their own.
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Rank: Veteran Joined: 1/4/2010 Posts: 1,668 Location: nairobi
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@birdman,@zanze, i already have specific clientele whom am servicing and would not like to add more work. Am however willing to help whoever needs info/guidance/help on construction matters freely on this forum or through email. i am trying to be as polite as possible to @binti's request. am even offering to refer @binti to several others who are more than willing to work with her/him. As Iron Sharpens Iron, So one Man Sharpens Another.
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Rank: Elder Joined: 6/21/2008 Posts: 2,490
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Rank: Elder Joined: 5/1/2010 Posts: 3,024 Location: Hapa
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i am also smiling. the gentleman doth protest too soon. i was at the mbuzi where the resident architect gave a talk on construction and pooling together ideas...it would be good to hear some constructive feedback from anyone was taken up business with him, not in a name and shame manner but constructively. granted he may not want 'small time' work but wazua is not only about people who build individual units. Float like a butterfly, sting like a bee. - Muhammad Ali🐝
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Rank: Veteran Joined: 1/4/2010 Posts: 1,668 Location: nairobi
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@butterflyke, you can be sure no serious investor or consultant will use an open forum to discuss construction business. thats why my engagement here in wazua is limited to only advisory etc. construction issues are very capital intensive and all players , both developers and consultants, cant use such fora to discuss such. Thats why i easily dismissed @binti's request as not serious. I have repeated again and again that i would not encourage or entertain anyone to consult me for their residential house projects since this is not my niche of consultancy. however, am available and ready to answer anyone's querries for free here on wazua. Do not expect any serious developer to ever air their issues on a public forum like this. Construction issues are either resolved through Architectural Association of Kenya arbitration or through litigation but not in forums. Only jokers expect to vet consultants using open forums coz this is the surest way for them to loose out on their investments. Serious investors know how this is done. As much that i like contributing my 2 cents here on wazua, it should be noted that confidentiality of the projects that i undertake is usually kept quite high and my clientele base does not constitute individual clientele, and i would not encourage anyone here to contact me regarding such projects. My online availability to discuss here in wazua should not be taken as a request for all and sundry to come to me for consultation servcices. As Iron Sharpens Iron, So one Man Sharpens Another.
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Rank: Elder Joined: 5/1/2010 Posts: 3,024 Location: Hapa
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a4architect.com wrote:@butterflyke, you can be sure no serious investor or consultant will use an open forum to discuss construction business. thats why my engagement here in wazua is limited to only advisory etc. construction issues are very capital intensive and all players , both developers and consultants, cant use such fora to discuss such. Thats why i easily dismissed @binti's request as not serious. I have repeated again and again that i would not encourage or entertain anyone to consult me for their residential house projects since this is not my niche of consultancy. however, am available and ready to answer anyone's querries for free here on wazua.
Do not expect any serious developer to ever air their issues on a public forum like this. Construction issues are either resolved through Architectural Association of Kenya arbitration or through litigation but not in forums. Only jokers expect to vet consultants using open forums coz this is the surest way for them to loose out on their investments. Serious investors know how this is done. bwana architect, you point is made but you're missing another point - one about feedback....but wazuans are not serious investors so we shall leave it as it is  Float like a butterfly, sting like a bee. - Muhammad Ali🐝
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Rank: Veteran Joined: 1/4/2010 Posts: 1,668 Location: nairobi
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@butterflyke, anyone with the feedback is ofcourse free to give it. All i know from experience is that serious investors have a particular way of engaging . I dont know how and why but do not expect a serious investor to openly discuss their project, whether positively or negatively, on an open forum. Even if you were to wait for 10 years, no one will post here about their project. In this case, if there were any postivie or negative issues that @binti wanted, then she looses out because she will not get any response. Serious developers know where such info is usually kept, at registration of architects offices or courts. the only other parties that can discuss projects in open forums will most likely be from hearsay, who can mislead someone seeking this info eg by giving too much positive or negative info which is not substantiated. What i can assure you and @binti is that in the many years that i have been in practice, there has been zero complaints of any kind that i know of pertaining to the construction industry and you can rest assured that even after 10 more years, there will be no complaint from anyone. As Iron Sharpens Iron, So one Man Sharpens Another.
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Rank: Member Joined: 5/19/2012 Posts: 552
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a4architect.com wrote:@birdman,@zanze, i already have specific clientele whom am servicing and would not like to add more work. Am however willing to help whoever needs info/guidance/help on construction matters freely on this forum or through email. i am trying to be as polite as possible to @binti's request. am even offering to refer @binti to several others who are more than willing to work with her/him. Thats fine @a4architect. Many times its good to show humility; you should have first let others respond to @Binti. It is not obvious that she would have opted for your services. Assuming she did, you would take that opportunity to have a discussion with her and if the job is too "small" for you, refer her to someone else. Too often we underestimate the power of a touch, a smile, a kind word, a listening ear, an honest compliment, or the smallest act of caring, all of which have the potential to turn a life around.... Leo Buscaglia
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Rank: Veteran Joined: 9/21/2011 Posts: 2,032
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I request that we now close this thread. It would be unprofessional 4 anyone to give feedback on another professional in an open forum like this and also a4 has stated he may not take up the assignment. The thread is thus 'Moot '
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