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Wazuans Employment Creation thought leadership
wa P
#1 Posted : Thursday, August 28, 2014 9:52:57 AM
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Calling on Wazua admin to help do something to increase employment opportunities.

Lack of employment has been noted as single largest contributor to increased crime rates.

Creating a viral hashtag on Twitter to condemn crime is good but impotent.

'to those the gods want to destroy, they first make them think that someone owes them something'.

'...and to those that gods want to prosper, they first make them know that nobody owes you anything.'

How are jobs created? through enterprise; or industries.

Which industries? manufacturing, trading or services.

How? Kabz sets up a factory to make...toothpaste. He employs chemists to mix paste. Since he needs packaging material, Muriel puts up a packaging material manufacturing plant to serve the demand = more jobs. Toothpaste need to be distributed: Alma buys a few trucks and employs couple of drivers and loaders to deliver to Njung'e's supermarket chain where thousands are employed.

So, why are we not doing it? We used to. Think about that toothpaste (allegedly with carcinogens). They were doing all that in Kenya once upon a time. Then they figured, 'why should we create jobs for Kenyans while we can make them buy imports?'. So they moved factory to climes that deserve 'employment'. We supported them.

What do we do? Suppose we consume only what is locally made? You say - not good quality. We switch to the next locally made alternative (think airtel and safcom).

The local manufacturer is from the other tribe. Yes he is; and his son is seeing your daughter. They may get married soon. He is neighbors with your mother in Buru and he recently saved the house from burning. Some people grow up and sober up, others would rather buy from the Brazilian whose son is seeing the Chinese. We need to increase the population of 'grown ups'.

How? A strong consumer movement. We interrogate what we consume, we force local manufacturers to improve processes and quality. We make supermarkets to stock 80% Kenyan-made brands. We show middle finger to anyone who expatriates jobs and want to sell their stuff to us.

We do not need politicians, or government, or governors to start a strong consumer movement.
maka
#2 Posted : Thursday, August 28, 2014 10:06:02 AM
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This is a very good thread,sadly input will be almost zero...a question i asked in the markets section which I believe @Murchr answered but not exhaustively...why does the govt allow business men to import almost everything?Why do we import clothes,yet we can grow our own cotton nd have our own textile industry,why we import tomato paste and pasta,yet we grow tomatoes and wheat which can be used to make the two...Our economic policies are all twisted...govt after govt doesn't address this vicious cycle that must be addressed thoroughly and in depth...The US is a great entrepreneurial country,something we must emulate to help raise our standard of living...
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Impunity
#3 Posted : Thursday, August 28, 2014 10:20:38 AM
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maka wrote:
This is a very good thread,sadly input will be almost zero...a question i asked in the markets section which I believe @Murchr answered but not exhaustively...why does the govt allow business men to import almost everything?Why do we import clothes,yet we can grow our own cotton nd have our own textile industry,why we import tomato paste and pasta,yet we grow tomatoes and wheat which can be used to make the two...Our economic policies are all twisted...govt after govt doesn't address this vicious cycle that must be addressed thoroughly and in depth...The US is a great entrepreneurial country,something we must emulate to help raise our standard of living...


Why is Kenyan produced Sugar 1.5 times expensive as compared to sugar grown in the Egyptian desert?
You should answer this before thinking of growing cotton, harvesting the same, making yarns, cutting clothes from it and then making a dress!
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tycho
#4 Posted : Thursday, August 28, 2014 10:51:17 AM
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maka wrote:
This is a very good thread,sadly input will be almost zero...a question i asked in thecmarkets section which I believe @Murchr answered but not exhaustively...why does the govt allow business men to import almost everything?Why do we import clothes,yet we can grow our own cotton nd have our own textile industry,why we import tomato paste and pasta,yet we grow tomatoes and wheat which can be used to make the two...Our economic policies are all twisted...govt after govt doesn't address this vicious cycle that must be addressed thoroughly and in depth...The US is a great entrepreneurial country,something we must emulate to help raise our standard of living...


@maka, @wa_ P, it's important that we become conscious of the structures, processes and trends that we are interacting with even as we try to find solutions to unemployment and poverty.

Firstly, we are now in a globalized system where capital and investment are supposed to be unfettered by boundaries and restrictions. Check on economic partnership agreements especially for African states.

Following closely or perhaps more precisely, happening simultaneously are political maneuvers that ensure that those political entities that are involved get their way in proportion to their power and interests. That is, domestic pressure drives international action and vice versa.

Thirdly, as information technology widens in scope and spread across the world, the separation between consumption and production becomes hazy.

Fourthly, human movement globally is intensifying making the idea of 'local production' obsolete. Every country is bound to be a multicultural center, heavily networked to other multicultural centers.

These and other factors I haven't mentioned like comparative advantage of various countries, financial constraints like debt, and 'disruptive technologies' like robotics provide and imply that we should first strive to develop an understanding of who we are, who others are and what they are up to, and the strategic context of our actions.

We also need to understand the systems we are using now, and how they can be changed optimally.

Then we can design real solutions. Here we need investment from interested parties because such an initiative must be research driven. We need a multifaceted approach because we are looking at change in all social aspects.

Clearly such an endeavour needs an idea champion, the creation of a conducive environment, collection of expertise, creativity and innovation, rapid development of applications and community involvement. It's about taking risk and expecting rewards from it.

I have been working for the last twenty or so years trying to develop simple and workable solutions because I have not only been among the poor youth, but these 'thugs' are my neighbors and friends. And one thing I know is that the best solutions must start with these youth who are inadequately educated and socialized. Programs have to be designed for their families too.

This is something that goes deep and only the daring and seekers of knowledge and wisdom can pull through.



Wendz
#5 Posted : Thursday, August 28, 2014 11:44:04 AM
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Lets not make this sound complicated. Yes, it is true there are various issues that need to be looked at, but there are things that we as locals can do about. For example, there are fundis that are making good furniture even along the roads. Yet we prefer to go buy expensive substandard imported beds that break a few months later from the supermarkets. My friend bought some imported dining set furniture and it didnt last 2 years. Finally, he decided to visit the boys along Ngong road.... If we support these industries, they will be able to grow and have enough money to innovate and create high standard goods. we can even rope in our neighbours for extended markets.

Some of the immediate policies that the government has to do is completely burn secondhands that can be made here easily.... for example, right opposite our office is a guy who sells secondhand furniture and was telling us that another container is on the high sees.... we've become a dumping ground! And someone was selling us mattresses.... we buy second hand under-wears for God's sake!!! it's criminal! Pure luck of respect for ourselves! some of these should be banned completely and just leave those things like say cars that cant be made locally, at least not in the very near future. If things like furniture and underwears and the like were banned, then the furniture market made locally will surely thrive... and the next door neighbour whose machine has been rusting aware can be made of good use trying to make some cheap material underwears.... we can import the materials, but let the finished goods be made here.... poor quality and the like notwithstanding because with time, and with demand for better quality finished goods, entrepreneurs will import good machines to make high quality products for these markets hence creating more jobs.... We have to start somewhere.
tycho
#6 Posted : Thursday, August 28, 2014 12:04:27 PM
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Wendz wrote:
Lets not make this sound complicated. Yes, it is true there are various issues that need to be looked at, but there are things that we as locals can do about. For example, there are fundis that are making good furniture even along the roads. Yet we prefer to go buy expensive substandard imported beds that break a few months later from the supermarkets. My friend bought some imported dining set furniture and it didnt last 2 years. Finally, he decided to visit the boys along Ngong road.... If we support these industries, they will be able to grow and have enough money to innovate and create high standard goods. we can even rope in our neighbours for extended markets.

Some of the immediate policies that the government has to do is completely burn secondhands that can be made here easily.... for example, right opposite our office is a guy who sells secondhand furniture and was telling us that another container is on the high sees.... we've become a dumping ground! And someone was selling us mattresses.... we buy second hand under-wears for God's sake!!! it's criminal! Pure luck of respect for ourselves! some of these should be banned completely and just leave those things like say cars that cant be made locally, at least not in the very near future. If things like furniture and underwears and the like were banned, then the furniture market made locally will surely thrive... and the next door neighbour whose machine has been rusting aware can be made of good use trying to make some cheap material underwears.... we can import the materials, but let the finished goods be made here.... poor quality and the like notwithstanding because with time, and with demand for better quality finished goods, entrepreneurs will import good machines to make high quality products for these markets hence creating more jobs.... We have to start somewhere.


Let's take this furniture example into consideration. If the majority of Kenyans are poor then only a minority can afford expensive imports. Again, the fundis who make good quality furniture compete with these imports in price. So the majority can't access them.

What happens when second hand goods are banned? Think of deforestation, think of how tastes and preferences are cultivated. Such action is likely to generate more problems than solutions. This 'simplification' is called 'suboptimization'. It's a common trap.

But let not my thoughts and contributions damp any ones. I have learned that opinions and thoughts don't have to be convergent. In fact each of us is independent in some way and what counts is what one does.

Impunity
#7 Posted : Thursday, August 28, 2014 12:49:01 PM
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Wendz wrote:
Lets not make this sound complicated. Yes, it is true there are various issues that need to be looked at, but there are things that we as locals can do about. For example, there are fundis that are making good furniture even along the roads. Yet we prefer to go buy expensive substandard imported beds that break a few months later from the supermarkets. My friend bought some imported dining set furniture and it didnt last 2 years. Finally, he decided to visit the boys along Ngong road.... If we support these industries, they will be able to grow and have enough money to innovate and create high standard goods. we can even rope in our neighbours for extended markets.

Some of the immediate policies that the government has to do is completely burn secondhands that can be made here easily.... for example, right opposite our office is a guy who sells secondhand furniture and was telling us that another container is on the high sees.... we've become a dumping ground! And someone was selling us mattresses.... we buy second hand under-wears for God's sake!!! it's criminal! Pure luck of respect for ourselves! some of these should be banned completely and just leave those things like say cars that cant be made locally, at least not in the very near future. If things like furniture and underwears and the like were banned, then the furniture market made locally will surely thrive... and the next door neighbour whose machine has been rusting aware can be made of good use trying to make some cheap material underwears.... we can import the materials, but let the finished goods be made here.... poor quality and the like notwithstanding because with time, and with demand for better quality finished goods, entrepreneurs will import good machines to make high quality products for these markets hence creating more jobs.... We have to start somewhere.


@Madam wendz, you have talked like TEN female presidents put together (grammar notwithstanding)...what we need as a people in this country is paradigm shift in our thoughts and values.
Why in heaven's sake would a woman buy an wear used underwears? I see them all the time I visit Gikosh.

With due respect, the gaarment should encourage training of "welding engineers" so that old machine of your neighbor could be turned into some sufuria or karai ya chapo.

smile
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tycho
#8 Posted : Thursday, August 28, 2014 1:02:23 PM
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Impunity wrote:
Wendz wrote:
Lets not make this sound complicated. Yes, it is true there are various issues that need to be looked at, but there are things that we as locals can do about. For example, there are fundis that are making good furniture even along the roads. Yet we prefer to go buy expensive substandard imported beds that break a few months later from the supermarkets. My friend bought some imported dining set furniture and it didnt last 2 years. Finally, he decided to visit the boys along Ngong road.... If we support these industries, they will be able to grow and have enough money to innovate and create high standard goods. we can even rope in our neighbours for extended markets.

Some of the immediate policies that the government has to do is completely burn secondhands that can be made here easily.... for example, right opposite our office is a guy who sells secondhand furniture and was telling us that another container is on the high sees.... we've become a dumping ground! And someone was selling us mattresses.... we buy second hand under-wears for God's sake!!! it's criminal! Pure luck of respect for ourselves! some of these should be banned completely and just leave those things like say cars that cant be made locally, at least not in the very near future. If things like furniture and underwears and the like were banned, then the furniture market made locally will surely thrive... and the next door neighbour whose machine has been rusting aware can be made of good use trying to make some cheap material underwears.... we can import the materials, but let the finished goods be made here.... poor quality and the like notwithstanding because with time, and with demand for better quality finished goods, entrepreneurs will import good machines to make high quality products for these markets hence creating more jobs.... We have to start somewhere.


@Madam wendz, you have talked like TEN female presidents put together (grammar notwithstanding)...what we need as a people in this country is paradigm shift in our thoughts and values.
Why in heaven's sake would a woman buy an wear used underwears? I see them all the time I visit Gikosh.

With due respect, the gaarment should encourage training of "welding engineers" so that old machine of your neighbor could be turned into some sufuria or karai ya chapo.

smile


There's a global competition for scrap metals http://www.cofek.co.ke/i...-affects-every-consumer

The paradigm shift you're talking about has to include rethinking economic models.
Muriel
#9 Posted : Thursday, August 28, 2014 1:08:58 PM
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I was just about to mention something about capitalism when I saw brother mention a 'rethinking of economic model'.

Capitalism. Profit, profit, profit.

Most, if not all of us, are hardcore capitalists.


Wendz
#10 Posted : Thursday, August 28, 2014 2:21:31 PM
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Muriel wrote:


I was just about to mention something about capitalism when I saw brother mention a 'rethinking of economic model'.

Capitalism. Profit, profit, profit.

Most, if not all of us, are hardcore capitalists.




You are right... but we cant be worse than the west and the east.... Capitalism is good if it helps grow our economies and create employment.
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