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Hazina Trade Centre -39 floors
mwekez@ji
#81 Posted : Thursday, August 01, 2013 1:18:03 PM
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NSSF’s 39-storey tower in doubt as Kazungu cancels contracts

“Following the recent sacking of Tom Odongo as managing trustee of NSSF, the government has cancelled all projects that were tendered but not yet awarded or started. The projects will be tendered afresh. Further, that all projects awarded and on-going will be subjected to a comprehensive audit by Efficiency Monitoring Unit,” said Labour secretary Kazungu Kambi in a statement.

The cancellation and suspension of the tenders comes 10 days after the Labour secretary fired Mr Odongo and a board member, Fred Rabongo. Mr Odongo was dismissed without any public explanation.
bkismat
#82 Posted : Thursday, August 01, 2013 2:41:37 PM
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mwekez@ji wrote:
NSSF’s 39-storey tower in doubt as Kazungu cancels contracts

“Following the recent sacking of Tom Odongo as managing trustee of NSSF, the government has cancelled all projects that were tendered but not yet awarded or started. The projects will be tendered afresh. Further, that all projects awarded and on-going will be subjected to a comprehensive audit by Efficiency Monitoring Unit,” said Labour secretary Kazungu Kambi in a statement.

The cancellation and suspension of the tenders comes 10 days after the Labour secretary fired Mr Odongo and a board member, Fred Rabongo. Mr Odongo was dismissed without any public explanation.

I foresee another Billion Shilling lawsuit 5 years down the line. Isn't this the reason why ERAD is demanding nearly a billion shillings when they did not supply NCPB with even 1 bag of maize. Isn't this the reason why last year this same NSSF paid Jirongo and some of his cronies for for nearly no work done?
It is better to keep your mouth closed and let people think you are a fool than to open it and remove all doubt...
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Kaigangio
#83 Posted : Thursday, August 01, 2013 2:54:54 PM
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mwekez@ji wrote:
NSSF’s 39-storey tower in doubt as Kazungu cancels contracts

“Following the recent sacking of Tom Odongo as managing trustee of NSSF, the government has cancelled all projects that were tendered but not yet awarded or started. The projects will be tendered afresh. Further, that all projects awarded and on-going will be subjected to a comprehensive audit by Efficiency Monitoring Unit,” said Labour secretary Kazungu Kambi in a statement.

The cancellation and suspension of the tenders comes 10 days after the Labour secretary fired Mr Odongo and a board member, Fred Rabongo. Mr Odongo was dismissed without any public explanation.


I think the auditing of the already awarded NSSF Hazina Tower contract will have the following effects:

1. Delay on the handing over of the site to the contractor and subsequent delay in the completion of the construction. This will only happen if the handing over has not been done.

2. If the contractor is instructed to stop any mobilisation activities and wait for the audit to be concluded and the audit takes too long, the quoted rates for materials within the imported component lot will most likely go up. This means early claims on materials escalations by the contractor (which is allowed for in the contract). Most likely this is not a fixed firm contract.

Unless there was a biased view or malpractice by the team of professionals who carried out the tenders evaluation, which the NSSF would have easily pick and unless the NSSF irregularly awarded it against the professionals advice, which cases may lead to the auditors recommending for the contract's termination, then the construction will definitely continue.

If the client (NSSF) for whatsoever reason decided to determine the contract, the contractor will be within his rights to claim for loss of profits...
...besides, the presence of a safe alone does not signify that there is money inside...
Kaigangio
#84 Posted : Thursday, August 01, 2013 3:22:51 PM
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bkismat wrote:
mwekez@ji wrote:
NSSF’s 39-storey tower in doubt as Kazungu cancels contracts

“Following the recent sacking of Tom Odongo as managing trustee of NSSF, the government has cancelled all projects that were tendered but not yet awarded or started. The projects will be tendered afresh. Further, that all projects awarded and on-going will be subjected to a comprehensive audit by Efficiency Monitoring Unit,” said Labour secretary Kazungu Kambi in a statement.

The cancellation and suspension of the tenders comes 10 days after the Labour secretary fired Mr Odongo and a board member, Fred Rabongo. Mr Odongo was dismissed without any public explanation.

I foresee another Billion Shilling lawsuit 5 years down the line. Isn't this the reason why ERAD is demanding nearly a billion shillings when they did not supply NCPB with even 1 bag of maize. Isn't this the reason why last year this same NSSF paid Jirongo and some of his cronies for for nearly no work done?


This will only happen if after a long time after the award, NSSF withdraws the award (terminates the contract). The contractor will have to claim for the loss of profit calculated based on the tender sum and may be the commercial interest rates. Here if the contractor and NSSF do not agree then abitration.. If arbitration fails then litigation, and here the government always loses badly...
...besides, the presence of a safe alone does not signify that there is money inside...
murchr
#85 Posted : Saturday, November 23, 2013 7:58:31 AM
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murchr wrote:
jaggernaut wrote:
murchr wrote:
obiero wrote:
Mpenzi wrote:
Traffic around the area will be terrible

Parking space has been factored into the design. Glass half full. Please think positive. Is traffic around KICC terrible?


Lets think mathematically, assuming everyone in the building and the surrounding with the privilege of driving leaves at 5, and given that the roads will not expand, how will that traffic be?


Are you suggesting that the project be abandoned because of traffic?


Ofcourse not, am just highlighting the fact that we dont put so much thought into issues when starting projects. If only the govt/city would have a light rail then...but as long as we still will drive to work and fill the parking spaces then expect a problem.


Ok, I think Kidero is a member of the mighty republic of Wazua


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The optimist
#86 Posted : Tuesday, February 11, 2014 8:07:04 PM
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murchr wrote:
murchr wrote:
jaggernaut wrote:
murchr wrote:
obiero wrote:
Mpenzi wrote:
Traffic around the area will be terrible

Parking space has been factored into the design. Glass half full. Please think positive. Is traffic around KICC terrible?


Lets think mathematically, assuming everyone in the building and the surrounding with the privilege of driving leaves at 5, and given that the roads will not expand, how will that traffic be?


Are you suggesting that the project be abandoned because of traffic?


Ofcourse not, am just highlighting the fact that we dont put so much thought into issues when starting projects. If only the govt/city would have a light rail then...but as long as we still will drive to work and fill the parking spaces then expect a problem.


Ok, I think Kidero is a member of the mighty republic of Wazua




The construction of the 40 storeyed Hazina Trade Centre in Nairobi has started.

The building is expected to cost an estimated 7.1 billion, according to Labour Cabinet Secretary Kazungu Kambi.

China Jiangxi International is on the site and will construct the building. The building will be tallest in Kenya once completed.

Goldilocks Reloaded
#87 Posted : Wednesday, February 12, 2014 7:45:03 PM
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Hellooo. I remember seeing the foundation being done while at UoN as an undergrad and we all wondered what monster was coming up. Two regrets now;

1. That pensioners money was embezzled and the crooks also denied Nairobi the pleasure of the masterpiece on the landscape.

2. The new tower will permanently block my office from receiving the morning sunshine...

Piece of advise on traffic, avoid Monrovia and Moktar Daddah Streets. At the very least stick to Koinange and Muindi Mbingu. I hope the chinese will be bringing in materials at night so that daytime is just piling up the floors. A welcome addition to Nairobi.
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a4architect.com
#88 Posted : Thursday, February 13, 2014 7:58:38 AM
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@goldilocks, i remember the foundation excavation too. I used to peep through to see the deep excavation during my days at UoN .
Lets see how the nairobi county planning department will resolve the parking and road access issue with this.
Out of the box solutions will come in handy here.
As Iron Sharpens Iron, So one Man Sharpens Another.
Kaigangio
#89 Posted : Thursday, February 13, 2014 9:01:37 AM
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a4architect.com wrote:
@goldilocks, i remember the foundation excavation too. I used to peep through to see the deep excavation during my days at UoN .
Lets see how the nairobi county planning department will resolve the parking and road access issue with this.
Out of the box solutions will come in handy here.


During the early days of excavations (in August 1997 to be precise), the civil/structural engineers had already finalised on the traffic issues along Monrovia rd, Mokhta Daddah rd, Koinange st, Loita st, Biashara st, Banda st and Muindi Mbingu with the then Nairobi City Council.

The NCC disregarded the plans and constructed parking spaces along Monrovia and Mokhta Daddah roads after the phase 1 (basements, ground floor, mezzanine 1 & 2 and 1st floor of the main tower).

That was the genesis of the current traffic problems along Koinange, Loita, Banda and Muindi Mbingu streets.
...besides, the presence of a safe alone does not signify that there is money inside...
Goldilocks Reloaded
#90 Posted : Thursday, February 13, 2014 1:47:11 PM
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Kaigangio wrote:
a4architect.com wrote:
@goldilocks, i remember the foundation excavation too. I used to peep through to see the deep excavation during my days at UoN .
Lets see how the nairobi county planning department will resolve the parking and road access issue with this.
Out of the box solutions will come in handy here.


During the early days of excavations (in August 1997 to be precise), the civil/structural engineers had already finalised on the traffic issues along Monrovia rd, Mokhta Daddah rd, Koinange st, Loita st, Biashara st, Banda st and Muindi Mbingu with the then Nairobi City Council.

The NCC disregarded the plans and constructed parking spaces along Monrovia and Mokhta Daddah roads after the phase 1 (basements, ground floor, mezzanine 1 & 2 and 1st floor of the main tower).

That was the genesis of the current traffic problems along Koinange, Loita, Banda and Muindi Mbingu streets.


@a4architect.com it seems we were in school same time. @ Kaigangio true. They must do away with the parking lots around the block, at least on Monrovia and Moktar Daddah streets and create direct access routes to and from the basement of the tower
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a4architect.com
#91 Posted : Friday, February 14, 2014 9:49:19 AM
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@goldilocks, i was at UoN between 1996 to 2001, staying at Hall 13.

Direct access from University way into and out of the building would ease traffic issues whereby most building occupants park around St Pauls area then walk to the office except for the few who directly access the building on their vehicles from the university way.
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Edyj
#92 Posted : Friday, February 14, 2014 5:00:03 PM
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Very intellectually refreshing debate on this project
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Goldilocks Reloaded
#93 Posted : Thursday, February 27, 2014 9:20:59 AM
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a4architect.com wrote:
@goldilocks, i was at UoN between 1996 to 2001, staying at Hall 13.

Direct access from University way into and out of the building would ease traffic issues whereby most building occupants park around St Pauls area then walk to the office except for the few who directly access the building on their vehicles from the university way.


@a4architect.com i was there 1992-1996 in Hall 10 then Chiromo.

It is reported that construction of the building is coming with a comprehensive traffic management plan but it has not been disclosed. Will find out.
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Kaigangio
#94 Posted : Thursday, February 27, 2014 9:55:08 AM
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Goldilocks Reloaded wrote:
a4architect.com wrote:
@goldilocks, i was at UoN between 1996 to 2001, staying at Hall 13.

Direct access from University way into and out of the building would ease traffic issues whereby most building occupants park around St Pauls area then walk to the office except for the few who directly access the building on their vehicles from the university way.


@a4architect.com i was there 1992-1996 in Hall 10 then Chiromo.

It is reported that construction of the building is coming with a comprehensive traffic management plan but it has not been disclosed. Will find out.


I really do not know what kind of traffic management that they have in place after the completion...whether it is the 1997 one or a completely new one.

one thing is for sure...the tower block will be holding close to 4000 people (this figure does not include the basement 4 to 1, ground floor, mezzanine 1 & 2 floors) on full occupancy and probably a quarter of this will be having vehicles, so as for the parking in the building basements, they might be reserved for boss tenants only.

I do not see anything changing in those parkings in the basements. The real change will only occur in the adjacent roads.
...besides, the presence of a safe alone does not signify that there is money inside...
Money Whisperer
#95 Posted : Thursday, February 27, 2014 10:36:35 AM
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murchr wrote:
kamaug wrote:
murchr wrote:
Kaigangio wrote:
murchr wrote:
obiero wrote:
Mpenzi wrote:
Traffic around the area will be terrible

Parking space has been factored into the design. Glass half full. Please think positive. Is traffic around KICC terrible?


Lets think mathematically, assuming everyone in the building and the surrounding with the privilege of driving leaves at 5, and given that the roads will not expand, how will that traffic be?


The traffic flow will not be any different than it is now because the available parking space in the basement will be optimumly utilised just as it is happening now...Although the tower will be constructed there will be no corresponding increase in parking space...

In the early stages fo development, the civil engineers persuaded the Nairobi City Council to make monrovia and mokhta daddah street single lanes which they did...but NCC made a very stupid mistake...introducing side parkings along these roads...This is why most of the times there is traffic jams along koinange street even when the university way is clear!!


I believe those who will be parking there will eventually leave for other businesses, supposing they all leave at five baada ya kazi, how messy will the roads be esp if we are to believe that the 500 who currently park there work in the vicinity? Traffic will def be a mess....but thats the Kenyan way of doing things...we'll react later

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#96 Posted : Monday, August 25, 2014 8:21:25 PM
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Finally?

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Obi 1 Kanobi
#97 Posted : Tuesday, August 26, 2014 4:29:50 PM
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With this building, the UAP tower and the upcoming Britam tower which i here has been bumped to 42 floors, Nairobi skyline will forever change.

We are staring at a very serios city skyline, done by kenyan's Applause Applause Applause
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#98 Posted : Wednesday, August 27, 2014 2:51:24 PM
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Obi 1 Kanobi wrote:
With this building, the UAP tower and the upcoming Britam tower which i here has been bumped to 42 floors, Nairobi skyline will forever change.

We are staring at a very serios city skyline, done by kenyan's Applause Applause Applause


why are you clapping?

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Am
#99 Posted : Wednesday, August 27, 2014 3:50:31 PM
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Mtu Biz wrote:
Obi 1 Kanobi wrote:
With this building, the UAP tower and the upcoming Britam tower which i here has been bumped to 42 floors, Nairobi skyline will forever change.

We are staring at a very serios city skyline, done by kenyan's Applause Applause Applause


why are you clapping?



Why are you unnecessarily harsh?
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#100 Posted : Wednesday, August 27, 2014 5:06:50 PM
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Obi 1 Kanobi wrote:
With this building, the UAP tower and the upcoming Britam tower which i here has been bumped to 42 floors, Nairobi skyline will forever change.

We are staring at a very serios city skyline, done by kenyan's Applause Applause Applause


I see serious traffic issue in Nairobi. Some of these companies should have moved their headquarters to business friendly towns like Nakuru, Eldoret, Kakamega...
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