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Scangroup H1 2014 PBT up by 151%
Rank: Member Joined: 6/14/2010 Posts: 521 Location: Nairobi
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PBT increased from 101.169m to 253.853m PAT from 43.624m to 182.69m EPs from 0.02 to 0.42 Source Daily Nation.
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Rank: Elder Joined: 8/16/2011 Posts: 2,297
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The stock can now go back to 65-75Kes range. I had wondered the reason why scangroup share fell from 64 to 45 Kes? Aiming 85 kes.
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Rank: Member Joined: 11/7/2013 Posts: 127 Location: Nairobi, Kenya
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WPP dilution... I went into the (Ferry) industry knowing the same thing I knew with all other businesses I went into- Nothing. Then I built it from there. - Sheldon Adelson (Titans at the Table- Giants of Macau)
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Rank: Elder Joined: 9/15/2006 Posts: 3,905
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You have to admire the gymnastics of Bharat Thakar. His business grows by 10% only, which would maybe have yielded negative return but then... 1. Milliard Brown is transformed from joint venture to subsidiary, giving a 280m or 15.4% boost 2. Interst income on money received from WPP gives a 112m windfall And voila, overall profit perfore tax up 151%. https://www.nse.co.ke/listed-com...ngroup-half-year-results
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Rank: New-farer Joined: 3/1/2014 Posts: 82
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muganda wrote:You have to admire the gymnastics of Bharat Thakar. His business grows by 10% only, which would maybe have yielded negative return but then... 1. Milliard Brown is transformed from joint venture to subsidiary, giving a 280m or 15.4% boost 2. Interst income on money received from WPP gives a 112m windfall And voila, overall profit perfore tax up 151%. https://www.nse.co.ke/listed-com...ngroup-half-year-results How are you getting the 280M? “The beauty of success is that it doesn’t matter how many times you have failed, you only have to be right once and then everyone can tell you how lucky you are.” - Mark Cuban
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Rank: Chief Joined: 1/3/2007 Posts: 18,121 Location: Nairobi
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muganda wrote:You have to admire the gymnastics of Bharat Thakar. His business grows by 10% only, which would maybe have yielded negative return but then... 1. Milliard Brown is transformed from joint venture to subsidiary, giving a 280m or 15.4% boost 2. Interst income on money received from WPP gives a 112m windfall And voila, overall profit perfore tax up 151%. https://www.nse.co.ke/listed-com...ngroup-half-year-results BT has never shied away from "Interest Income" ... I recall when interest rates jumped to 25%, he took the cash from WPP and invested it while waiting for the right acquisition at the right price. He thinks like an owner because he is an OWNER. A 'manager' would take the cash & go hunting for an acquisition regardless of price so as to expand his fiefdom. See KQ. WPP had shares in MB [or something like that] and the conversion to a subsidiary is a larger plan to get most SSA businesses under ScanGroup. Essentially, ScanGroup is being converted into a Holding Company and whose #1 shareholder is WPP. I believe BT has only a few more years before he retires or resigns from ScanGroup. Greedy when others are fearful. Very fearful when others are greedy - to paraphrase Warren Buffett
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Rank: Elder Joined: 9/15/2006 Posts: 3,905
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Kastone wrote:muganda wrote:You have to admire the gymnastics of Bharat Thakar. His business grows by 10% only, which would maybe have yielded negative return but then... 1. Milliard Brown is transformed from joint venture to subsidiary, giving a 280m or 15.4% boost 2. Interst income on money received from WPP gives a 112m windfall And voila, overall profit perfore tax up 151%. https://www.nse.co.ke/listed-com...ngroup-half-year-results How are you getting the 280M? HY 2014 revenue of 2.26bn less ... (HY 2013 revenue 1.8bn x 10% organic growth) == 280m
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Rank: Member Joined: 6/15/2013 Posts: 301
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surprising muted response from Mr.market to scangroups marvelous results........
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Rank: Member Joined: 11/7/2013 Posts: 127 Location: Nairobi, Kenya
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mulla wrote:surprising muted response from Mr.market to scangroups marvelous results........ This shall be a quiet climb...speculators will hit when it has only 5 bob more to go...are you an Investor, Buyer or Speculator? One of these knows the true value of the counter... I went into the (Ferry) industry knowing the same thing I knew with all other businesses I went into- Nothing. Then I built it from there. - Sheldon Adelson (Titans at the Table- Giants of Macau)
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Rank: Member Joined: 5/9/2014 Posts: 130 Location: Nairobi
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The rally might start on Monday but bearing in mind that the NSE IPO is also in its closing stages early next week, activities on this counter might be subdued until later next week.
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Rank: Elder Joined: 8/16/2011 Posts: 2,297
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Did the share fail to rise even after making an upward profit for half year to 151% What might have happened? Who presssed the SELL button? I have been asking the reason the stock moved from 65 to 45 within a week and it has never risen even now after noting the enormous gain. We have seen stocks like Kenya Orchads gain by 400%. Is it the land factor. And if land factor like the REA, why hasn't Mumias gone up? How much Land does Mumias own? What if Mumias say there is oil in Busia or say western where they might be having larger chunks?
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Rank: Member Joined: 11/7/2013 Posts: 127 Location: Nairobi, Kenya
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Realtreaty wrote:Did the share fail to rise even after making an upward profit for half year to 151% What might have happened? Who presssed the SELL button? I have been asking the reason the stock moved from 65 to 45 within a week and it has never risen even now after noting the enormous gain. We have seen stocks like Kenya Orchads gain by 400%. Is it the land factor. And if land factor like the REA, why hasn't Mumias gone up? How much Land does Mumias own? What if Mumias say there is oil in Busia or say western where they might be having larger chunks? The H1 gain arises mainly from interest income not business lines...stock price might get ''excited'' Sept- Dec. period...however actions such as the intended acquistion of Experential and other African subsidiaries should improve the bottom line and hence EPS and share price. Time will return the stock to even higher highs. I still believe WPP shareholding increase through creation of additional shares led to price dilution. I went into the (Ferry) industry knowing the same thing I knew with all other businesses I went into- Nothing. Then I built it from there. - Sheldon Adelson (Titans at the Table- Giants of Macau)
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Rank: Elder Joined: 9/23/2009 Posts: 8,083 Location: Enk are Nyirobi
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Growth by acquisitions ni moto wa kuotea mbali. Life is short. Live passionately.
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Rank: Elder Joined: 7/11/2010 Posts: 5,040
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sparkly wrote:Growth by acquisitions ni moto wa kuotea mbali. correct The investor's chief problem - and even his worst enemy - is likely to be himself
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Rank: Member Joined: 11/7/2013 Posts: 127 Location: Nairobi, Kenya
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Wazua elders if you may @sparkly @Aguy , kindly educate me your young padwan on why growth by acquistions may not directly impact bottom-line at once? I thought for instance how Scan has gotten majority control of MBrown then the earnings trickle into Scan's revenues, no? Same to Experential etc etc...?? I went into the (Ferry) industry knowing the same thing I knew with all other businesses I went into- Nothing. Then I built it from there. - Sheldon Adelson (Titans at the Table- Giants of Macau)
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Rank: Elder Joined: 9/23/2009 Posts: 8,083 Location: Enk are Nyirobi
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Mart_Consult wrote:Wazua elders if you may @sparkly @Aguy , kindly educate me your young padwan on why growth by acquistions may not directly impact bottom-line at once? I thought for instance how Scan has gotten majority control of MBrown then the earnings trickle into Scan's revenues, no? Same to Experential etc etc...?? Quite the opposite, the acquisitions may show a very healthy growth in profits. On the other hand, management can tamper with acquisitions accounting to hide a very expensive acquisition, under performing assets, to transfer risky assets and liabilities to SPVs and other sneaky practices. This is what brought down Enron and Worldcom in the largest corporate scandals of the time and also led to the demise of Arthur Anderson, the largest accounting and consultancy firm at that time. Life is short. Live passionately.
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Rank: Member Joined: 8/17/2007 Posts: 294
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Realtreaty wrote:The stock can now go back to 65-75Kes range. I had wondered the reason why scangroup share fell from 64 to 45 Kes? Aiming 85 kes. keep hope alive...
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Rank: Member Joined: 11/7/2013 Posts: 127 Location: Nairobi, Kenya
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Mart_Consult wrote:Wazua elders if you may @sparkly @Aguy , kindly educate me your young padwan on why growth by acquistions may not directly impact bottom-line at once? I thought for instance how Scan has gotten majority control of MBrown then the earnings trickle into Scan's revenues, no? Same to Experential etc etc...?? Scangroup now let's go of the Experential acquistion due to "regulatory delays"...possibly looking at a new acquistion? Still sitting on (part of) the WPP (Kshs. 1Bn +) cash pile... I went into the (Ferry) industry knowing the same thing I knew with all other businesses I went into- Nothing. Then I built it from there. - Sheldon Adelson (Titans at the Table- Giants of Macau)
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Rank: Elder Joined: 12/9/2009 Posts: 6,592 Location: Nairobi
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Mart_Consult wrote:Mart_Consult wrote:Wazua elders if you may @sparkly @Aguy , kindly educate me your young padwan on why growth by acquistions may not directly impact bottom-line at once? I thought for instance how Scan has gotten majority control of MBrown then the earnings trickle into Scan's revenues, no? Same to Experential etc etc...?? Scangroup now let's go of the Experential acquistion due to "regulatory delays"...possibly looking at a new acquistion? What! That's not good for Exp. This company was a going concern not long ago and now scangroup has withdrawn? Scangroup must have realised they can acquire exp for cheaper once it starts its free fall. BBI will solve it :)
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Rank: Chief Joined: 1/3/2007 Posts: 18,121 Location: Nairobi
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2012 wrote:Mart_Consult wrote:Mart_Consult wrote:Wazua elders if you may @sparkly @Aguy , kindly educate me your young padwan on why growth by acquistions may not directly impact bottom-line at once? I thought for instance how Scan has gotten majority control of MBrown then the earnings trickle into Scan's revenues, no? Same to Experential etc etc...?? Scangroup now let's go of the Experential acquistion due to "regulatory delays"...possibly looking at a new acquistion? What! That's not good for Exp. This company was a going concern not long ago and now scangroup has withdrawn? Scangroup must have realised they can acquire exp for cheaper once it starts its free fall. Good for ScanGroup. Though it takes a lot for another bid. I think SG saw the deal as a poor deal as the Due Diligence continued and had a good excuse to bail out. And there may be a competitor ready to be bought out! Greedy when others are fearful. Very fearful when others are greedy - to paraphrase Warren Buffett
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