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Equity Bank unveils its MVNO strategy
Kastone
#181 Posted : Tuesday, August 19, 2014 4:19:49 PM
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Equity's fate to be determined on Friday. Already there's excitement from Mwananchi and fear with Safaricom already lowering prices
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innovator
#182 Posted : Tuesday, August 19, 2014 4:24:37 PM
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Kastone wrote:
Equity's fate to be determined on Friday. Already there's excitement from Mwananchi and fear with Safaricom already lowering prices

Which prices has safaricom lowered.
Kastone
#183 Posted : Tuesday, August 19, 2014 4:41:41 PM
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innovator wrote:
Kastone wrote:
Equity's fate to be determined on Friday. Already there's excitement from Mwananchi and fear with Safaricom already lowering prices

Which prices has safaricom lowered.


M-Pesa charges. honestly it's a clever move.

Range Ksh. 10 - 1500 - 15 bob representing 67% drop.

The reason is according to "research" around 65% of the transactions fall under that range. Fear much?
“The beauty of success is that it doesn’t matter how many times you have failed, you only have to be right once and then everyone can tell you how lucky you are.” - Mark Cuban
poundfoolish
#184 Posted : Tuesday, August 19, 2014 4:42:06 PM
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innovator wrote:
Kastone wrote:
Equity's fate to be determined on Friday. Already there's excitement from Mwananchi and fear with Safaricom already lowering prices

Which prices has safaricom lowered.


the latest move seems to suggest it is targeting to keep the small man in its grip.. btn 501 and 2500, charges dropped to 15 bob anything above charges go up to 45. I guess they are saying for any larger transactions, please use your bank (banks that will affiliate with them) while for the normal mwananichi stick to us (MPesa). I also fore see them bringing down charges for upto 10K transactions.

Excitement from Mwananchi? Nope!! I dont see it (with Kenyans and their peculiar habits)
Slim SIM game changer? Definitely yes.

But Member better be in this for the long haul and with the best strategy and money.. they should be looking at a battle of 5-10years to upstage Mpesa bank on that.
mlennyma
#185 Posted : Tuesday, August 19, 2014 4:47:51 PM
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This safcom is never mwananchi friendly until under pressure by competition,too bad.
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innovator
#186 Posted : Tuesday, August 19, 2014 5:34:08 PM
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I agree, this safaricom thing is a sucker, using unorthodox methods to freeze the mwananchi.
bkismat
#187 Posted : Tuesday, August 19, 2014 6:03:49 PM
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poundfoolish wrote:
innovator wrote:
Kastone wrote:
Equity's fate to be determined on Friday. Already there's excitement from Mwananchi and fear with Safaricom already lowering prices

Which prices has safaricom lowered.


the latest move seems to suggest it is targeting to keep the small man in its grip.. btn 501 and 2500, charges dropped to 15 bob anything above charges go up to 45. I guess they are saying for any larger transactions, please use your bank (banks that will affiliate with them) while for the normal mwananichi stick to us (MPesa). I also fore see them bringing down charges for upto 10K transactions.

Excitement from Mwananchi? Nope!! I dont see it (with Kenyans and their peculiar habits)
Slim SIM game changer? Definitely yes.

But Member better be in this for the long haul and with the best strategy and money.. they should be looking at a battle of 5-10years to upstage Mpesa bank on that.

Only sending charges affected. Withdrawal remains the same
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hisah
#188 Posted : Tuesday, August 19, 2014 6:53:29 PM
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mlennyma wrote:
This safcom is never mwananchi friendly until under pressure by competition,too bad.


innovator wrote:
I agree, this safaricom thing is a sucker, using unorthodox methods to freeze the mwananchi.


If you are the monopoly in a market you decide the price until the status changes. Simple economics 101...
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kyt
#189 Posted : Tuesday, August 19, 2014 7:03:02 PM
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hisah wrote:
mlennyma wrote:
This safcom is never mwananchi friendly until under pressure by competition,too bad.


innovator wrote:
I agree, this safaricom thing is a sucker, using unorthodox methods to freeze the mwananchi.


If you are the monopoly in a market you decide the price until the status changes. Simple economics 101...

spot on hisah. the question remains how long will the oligopoly in banking sector last?
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innovator
#190 Posted : Tuesday, August 19, 2014 7:08:50 PM
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hisah wrote:
mlennyma wrote:
This safcom is never mwananchi friendly until under pressure by competition,too bad.


innovator wrote:
I agree, this safaricom thing is a sucker, using unorthodox methods to freeze the mwananchi.


If you are the monopoly in a market you decide the price until the status changes. Simple economics 101...


The part that looks crooked is where they use delaying tactics so that they can first find a counter measure
VituVingiSana
#191 Posted : Tuesday, August 19, 2014 7:37:53 PM
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mlennyma wrote:
This safcom is never mwananchi friendly until under pressure by competition,too bad.
And the flak I used to get when I lauded Airtel's efforts to break the monopoly by introducing cheap(er) rates for off-net calls, data and roaming.
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Kihara joni
#192 Posted : Tuesday, August 19, 2014 8:08:05 PM
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I am not exited about this, I'ts actually an increase in price for me to 45/- this might or might not work very well for Saf, it will be like when banks introduced minimum balances of 20k in the 90s.
jwatesh
#193 Posted : Tuesday, August 19, 2014 9:32:43 PM
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I hope the Equity sim card has cheaper faster data, I opened an Equity account just for that sim card....plus buying a huge bulk of stocks tomorrow. Imagine if they roled out this thin sim card to the whole of East Africa. The will capture a huge bulk of importers and exporters
sorovi
#194 Posted : Wednesday, August 20, 2014 12:11:24 AM
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Kihara joni wrote:
I am not exited about this, I'ts actually an increase in price for me to 45/- this might or might not work very well for Saf, it will be like when banks introduced minimum balances of 20k in the 90s.


they can never give out anything for free Shame on you Shame on you .. They are trying to protect the low margin trading which can have the highest churn. Those transacting more than 2500 are looking for convenience and may not care about the cost as a factor to migrate
Tall Order
#195 Posted : Wednesday, August 20, 2014 5:17:36 AM
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Safcom's move a drop in the ocean trying to blind fold Wanjiku not to see the light at the end of the tunnel. Let's see Members entry into market rates and then take stock of everything.
mnandii
#196 Posted : Wednesday, August 20, 2014 7:19:35 AM
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VituVingiSana wrote:
mlennyma wrote:
This safcom is never mwananchi friendly until under pressure by competition,too bad.
And the flak I used to get when I lauded Airtel's efforts to break the monopoly by introducing cheap(er) rates for off-net calls, data and roaming.

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mkeiy
#197 Posted : Wednesday, August 20, 2014 8:46:52 AM
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sorovi wrote:
Kihara joni wrote:
I am not exited about this, I'ts actually an increase in price for me to 45/- this might or might not work very well for Saf, it will be like when banks introduced minimum balances of 20k in the 90s.


they can never give out anything for free Shame on you Shame on you .. They are trying to protect the low margin trading which can have the highest churn. Those transacting more than 2500 are looking for convenience and may not care about the cost as a factor to migrate



@Sorovi, How gullible are they?
Who said Equity won't offer the same convenience, at cheaper rates?
kollabo
#198 Posted : Wednesday, August 20, 2014 11:23:05 AM
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What sort of company would slash the charges of its main service by 67%? This after the threat of a new entrant.

It only says one thing...Safcom have been exploiting customers ever since. They read Wazua and now understand the full implications of Equity's entry into mobile money.
McReggae
#199 Posted : Wednesday, August 20, 2014 11:35:48 AM
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kollabo wrote:
What sort of company would slash the charges of its main service by 67%? This after the threat of a new entrant.

It only says one thing...Safcom have been exploiting customers ever since. They read Wazua and now understand the full implications of Equity's entry into mobile money.


Which business is a charity bro?
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mlennyma
#200 Posted : Wednesday, August 20, 2014 11:59:26 AM
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I will be the first customer to drop mpesa very bitterly,iam surrounded by equity agents and atms.my few coins will go to equity
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