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Rank: Member Joined: 8/24/2013 Posts: 185 Location: Diaspora
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Yeah, let's condemn and poke fun at the thief who loses his life attempting to steal oil worth a few thousands from a transformer.
Yet the other thief who steals billions meant for feeding the hungry and educating our children is lavished with praise and adulation, getting first class treatment wherever he/she goes to in Kenya. And when he/ she dies, a few days of national mourning are declared as we shed our crocodile tears.
Kenyans!
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simonkabz wrote:Kaigangio wrote:Impunity wrote:Baratang wrote:Kaigangio wrote:Impunity wrote:Speculz wrote:Impunity wrote:Muheani wrote:Speculz wrote:Impunity wrote:Mjasirii wrote:How comes the body is not charred. May be its the shock that killed the man, he is lucky he didnt get burned! How is he lucky? Thats easy...Identification bila need for DNA @muheani, thanks. Just remember that not all wazuans came out of class with something between their ears! Theirs was a wasted 16 years of 8-4-4. Again I ask how is he lucky?? Please comprehend the question before replying, the relatives are the lucky ones since they will identify him easily , how is he lucky since he is dead? Ok, lets say he is unlucky. But how does that help him either? You just don't get you guys!!! Judging by the type of transformer that is appearing in the picture, it is pretty obvious that it is an 11,000V/415V 3 phase delta/star power distribution transformer... There are three types of voltages at the input and output terminals: 1. At the primary side of the transformer, the voltage input is 11,000V (11kV) phase to phase or phase to ground (earth) 2. At the secondary side of the transformer, the voltage output is 415V phase to phase and... 3. At the secondary side of the transformer, the voltage output is 240V phase to neutral or phase to ground (earth) The more appropriate question to ask is which voltage actually killed the thief, the 240V, the 415V or the 11,000V??? So what voltage killed the fellow? Anyone who attended any elementary engineering class, ata kama ni bridging class at kagumo village polytechnic will know that the voltage doesn't kill, its the current! Hence Low voltage, high current and High voltage, low current! Be guided accordingly. @ impunity Your reasoning here is just but pure fallacy... So could you please tell us which of the two scenarios is lethal: 1. 100Amps at 5VAC 2. 0.001Amps at 240VAC He left me wondering there. But it is good enough for a holder of a welding degree. Does current just happen? Voltage is a factor of current, if I can recall my lessons in sociology. There can never be current without voltage, just like water cannot just flow with zero gradient. Quote:If voltage presented no danger, no one would ever print and display signs saying: DANGER -- HIGH VOLTAGE! Quote:The principle that "current kills" is essentially correct. It is electric current that burns tissue, freezes muscles, and fibrillates hearts. However, electric current doesn't just occur on its own: there must be voltage available to motivate electrons to flow through a victim. A person's body also presents resistance to current, which must be taken into account. Quote: Taking Ohm's Law for voltage, current, and resistance, and expressing it in terms of current for a given voltage and resistance, we have this equation: CURRENT=VOLTAGE/RESISTANCE Welding  What is funnier is talking about coming out of class without something between their ears. Tell a dead guy he's lucky! And then qualify that, with the widow and/or his children are lucky!  Wacha hio luck ikae 
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The Clown wrote:Yeah, let's condemn and poke fun at the thief who loses his life attempting to steal oil worth a few thousands from a transformer.
Yet the other thief who steals billions meant for feeding the hungry and educating our children is lavished with praise and adulation, getting first class treatment wherever he/she goes to in Kenya. And when he/ she dies, a few days of national mourning are declared as we shed our crocodile tears.
Kenyans! True re the rich thief.....prosperity even in theft.... Float like a butterfly, sting like a bee. - Muhammad Ali🐝
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Rank: Elder Joined: 3/2/2009 Posts: 26,331 Location: Masada
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urstill1 wrote:simonkabz wrote:Kaigangio wrote:Impunity wrote:Baratang wrote:Kaigangio wrote:Impunity wrote:Speculz wrote:Impunity wrote:Muheani wrote:Speculz wrote:Impunity wrote:Mjasirii wrote:How comes the body is not charred. May be its the shock that killed the man, he is lucky he didnt get burned! How is he lucky? Thats easy...Identification bila need for DNA @muheani, thanks. Just remember that not all wazuans came out of class with something between their ears! Theirs was a wasted 16 years of 8-4-4. Again I ask how is he lucky?? Please comprehend the question before replying, the relatives are the lucky ones since they will identify him easily , how is he lucky since he is dead? Ok, lets say he is unlucky. But how does that help him either? You just don't get you guys!!! Judging by the type of transformer that is appearing in the picture, it is pretty obvious that it is an 11,000V/415V 3 phase delta/star power distribution transformer... There are three types of voltages at the input and output terminals: 1. At the primary side of the transformer, the voltage input is 11,000V (11kV) phase to phase or phase to ground (earth) 2. At the secondary side of the transformer, the voltage output is 415V phase to phase and... 3. At the secondary side of the transformer, the voltage output is 240V phase to neutral or phase to ground (earth) The more appropriate question to ask is which voltage actually killed the thief, the 240V, the 415V or the 11,000V??? So what voltage killed the fellow? Anyone who attended any elementary engineering class, ata kama ni bridging class at kagumo village polytechnic will know that the voltage doesn't kill, its the current! Hence Low voltage, high current and High voltage, low current! Be guided accordingly. @ impunity Your reasoning here is just but pure fallacy... So could you please tell us which of the two scenarios is lethal: 1. 100Amps at 5VAC 2. 0.001Amps at 240VAC He left me wondering there. But it is good enough for a holder of a welding degree. Does current just happen? Voltage is a factor of current, if I can recall my lessons in sociology. There can never be current without voltage, just like water cannot just flow with zero gradient. Quote:If voltage presented no danger, no one would ever print and display signs saying: DANGER -- HIGH VOLTAGE! Quote:The principle that "current kills" is essentially correct. It is electric current that burns tissue, freezes muscles, and fibrillates hearts. However, electric current doesn't just occur on its own: there must be voltage available to motivate electrons to flow through a victim. A person's body also presents resistance to current, which must be taken into account. Quote: Taking Ohm's Law for voltage, current, and resistance, and expressing it in terms of current for a given voltage and resistance, we have this equation: CURRENT=VOLTAGE/RESISTANCE Welding What amount of water are we talking about here? How big is the flat surface? Those two points can easily disqualify your statement. I saw no need to engage a sociologist any further on matters engineering. Bringing matters potential difference aka water in a bucket on a higher ground, the things I was taught in pre-unit decades ago, to qualify his folly...  Portfolio: Sold
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welding expert 
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Rank: Elder Joined: 3/2/2007 Posts: 8,776 Location: Cameroon
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Impunity wrote:urstill1 wrote:simonkabz wrote:Kaigangio wrote:Impunity wrote:Baratang wrote:Kaigangio wrote:Impunity wrote:Speculz wrote:Impunity wrote:Muheani wrote:Speculz wrote:Impunity wrote:Mjasirii wrote:How comes the body is not charred. May be its the shock that killed the man, he is lucky he didnt get burned! How is he lucky? Thats easy...Identification bila need for DNA @muheani, thanks. Just remember that not all wazuans came out of class with something between their ears! Theirs was a wasted 16 years of 8-4-4. Again I ask how is he lucky?? Please comprehend the question before replying, the relatives are the lucky ones since they will identify him easily , how is he lucky since he is dead? Ok, lets say he is unlucky. But how does that help him either? You just don't get you guys!!! Judging by the type of transformer that is appearing in the picture, it is pretty obvious that it is an 11,000V/415V 3 phase delta/star power distribution transformer... There are three types of voltages at the input and output terminals: 1. At the primary side of the transformer, the voltage input is 11,000V (11kV) phase to phase or phase to ground (earth) 2. At the secondary side of the transformer, the voltage output is 415V phase to phase and... 3. At the secondary side of the transformer, the voltage output is 240V phase to neutral or phase to ground (earth) The more appropriate question to ask is which voltage actually killed the thief, the 240V, the 415V or the 11,000V??? So what voltage killed the fellow? Anyone who attended any elementary engineering class, ata kama ni bridging class at kagumo village polytechnic will know that the voltage doesn't kill, its the current! Hence Low voltage, high current and High voltage, low current! Be guided accordingly. @ impunity Your reasoning here is just but pure fallacy... So could you please tell us which of the two scenarios is lethal: 1. 100Amps at 5VAC 2. 0.001Amps at 240VAC He left me wondering there. But it is good enough for a holder of a welding degree. Does current just happen? Voltage is a factor of current, if I can recall my lessons in sociology. There can never be current without voltage, just like water cannot just flow with zero gradient. Quote:If voltage presented no danger, no one would ever print and display signs saying: DANGER -- HIGH VOLTAGE! Quote:The principle that "current kills" is essentially correct. It is electric current that burns tissue, freezes muscles, and fibrillates hearts. However, electric current doesn't just occur on its own: there must be voltage available to motivate electrons to flow through a victim. A person's body also presents resistance to current, which must be taken into account. Quote: Taking Ohm's Law for voltage, current, and resistance, and expressing it in terms of current for a given voltage and resistance, we have this equation: CURRENT=VOLTAGE/RESISTANCE Welding What amount of water are we talking about here? How big is the flat surface? Those two points can easily disqualify your statement. I saw no need to engage a sociologist any further on matters engineering. Bringing matters potential difference aka water in a bucket on a higher ground, the things I was taught in pre-unit decades ago, to qualify his folly... First class honours in Welding TULIA.........UFUNZWE!
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Rank: Elder Joined: 3/2/2007 Posts: 8,776 Location: Cameroon
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kysse wrote:Ala? Kwani hii thread ni ya physics? Dada i am with you, lost! In the business world, everyone is paid in two coins - cash and experience. Take the experience first; the cash will come later - H Geneen
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banyamulenge wrote:Ati 'Suspected Vandal' aint some things obvious?? Kwani alikuwa akichuna mapera hapo juu?? LOL Form is temporary, class is permanent
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