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How to tell NSE has bottomed out
murchr
#5181 Posted : Sunday, August 10, 2014 2:13:46 AM
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@Aguy, you're expecting too much
"There are only two emotions in the market, hope & fear. The problem is you hope when you should fear & fear when you should hope: - Jesse Livermore
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Mainat
#5182 Posted : Sunday, August 10, 2014 8:29:53 AM
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Thanks to you Hisah, I consider my AOI investment to have been one of the best in the last few years. It was a perfect buy low,sell high execution.
KPLC/KenGen, the longhand of GoK will keep me away. Kibaki was a visionary and if his Vision2030 is followed to the letter, will be the founding father of the 2nd repulic of Kenya.
The dynamic duo are intellectual dwarfs who will struggle...

hisah wrote:
So why has hisah been building a long term energy portfolio since 2011?

http://csis.org/story/af...a-united-states-and-oil

http://www.politico.com/...-14b-africa-109718.html

It's the scramble for energy and infrastructure just like what happened during colonialism. But this time the power shift stays in Africa since for the global econ to survive another 100yrs, Africa MUST be part of it! And Africa MUST get upgraded to 1st world level! The building of the greatest global economy is happening right now, but the continent is in disbelief as well as the rest of the planet. Hot money doesn't gamble. Its actions are deliberate...

Some veterans have boarded the KPLC bus - stockmaster, mwekezaji, deal, myself. Nani wengine? I've started with KPLC. I also mentioned Kengen, KK, cables for now. TCL is also on my radar. I'm scouting more in Africa.

Still holding Africa oil from 2011. @mainat left the bus a while back.

And so I've let out some cats from the bag...

** Because Africa is getting its biggest upgrade since industrialization, global markets will have to get discounted (sold) to raise the money **

#Funding infrastructure 101

Sehemu ndio nyumba
Mukiri
#5183 Posted : Sunday, August 10, 2014 9:37:52 AM
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Aguytrying wrote:
@mukiri. research what he says and come to your own decision, own the idea to be able to hang on even when it no longer makes sense

Even @Hisah repeatedly says that. Its the same message I'm reiterating to others, having learnt the hard way.

Proverbs 19:21
murchr
#5184 Posted : Sunday, August 10, 2014 5:16:20 PM
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littledove wrote:
littledove wrote:
murchr wrote:
DBLyon wrote:
murchr wrote:
We crossed 5000 5/8 how long with that hold? Time will tell


Maybe we need a new thread - How to tell NSE is boiling over. smile


There's one named Madness at the NSE

Wk close above 5000 but signs of weakness.

@Mweke any numbers on foreign participation?


' data from CMA show foreigners cumulatively held 28.03% of listed stocks as at June 30 nearing levels last seen in 2004 of 29.8% '



Someone wrote about it

http://www.the-star.co.k...-more-stake-listed-firms
"There are only two emotions in the market, hope & fear. The problem is you hope when you should fear & fear when you should hope: - Jesse Livermore
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hisah
#5185 Posted : Friday, August 15, 2014 5:36:28 AM
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This CGT is a spanner in the works. And since it was one of those ECF IMF conditions, it'll be implemented. The two hot markets (real estate and equities) are the target. Hot money dislikes tax regimes. If CGT is implemented harshly like that senator keg tax, a proper correction will hit both markets.

http://mobile.nation.co....-/11wegbrz/-/index.html

*hot money capital flight will ruin my bottom call...!*

Does NSE have circuit breakers for cooling extended quickfire sales? Putin ordered russian equity market closure for 2 weeks during the GFC madness so that the market could regain its head...

What timing this CGT just as we head into the turbulent Sept - Nov period with a hobbling econ. A shakeout is definitely on the cards globally so the correction might squeeze NSE harder.
$15/barrel oil... The commodities lehman moment arrives as well as Sovereign debt volcano!
whiteowl
#5186 Posted : Friday, August 15, 2014 8:44:33 AM
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hisah wrote:
This CGT is a spanner in the works. And since it was one of those ECF IMF conditions, it'll be implemented. The two hot markets (real estate and equities) are the target. Hot money dislikes tax regimes. If CGT is implemented harshly like that senator keg tax, a proper correction will hit both markets.

http://mobile.nation.co....-/11wegbrz/-/index.html

*hot money capital flight will ruin my bottom call...!*

Does NSE have circuit breakers for cooling extended quickfire sales? Putin ordered russian equity market closure for 2 weeks during the GFC madness so that the market could regain its head...

What timing this CGT just as we head into the turbulent Sept - Nov period with a hobbling econ. A shakeout is definitely on the cards globally so the correction might squeeze NSE harder.

one CGT hits equities, we'll have to relive this thread all over again.
murchr
#5187 Posted : Tuesday, August 19, 2014 4:32:48 AM
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In the headlines
the Star wrote:
Fusion Group has disclosed plans to exit one of its private equity investments via the Nairobi Securities Exchange, in what will be its first exit through a public offering.

The hybrid fund management and private equity firm is to exit its 45 per cent stake in GAL Baking Services Ltd, a bakery operating out of Nairobi, by listing on the Growth Enterprise Market Segment on the NSE.


The Sharks can smell blood in the water.

the Star wrote:
Tea companies and smallholder farmers face big shocks in earnings decline owing to lower prices, according to researchers at the Economist Intelligence Unit. The cash crop has been Kenya's biggest export earner but price depression and a drop in overall production will impact negatively on farmers and investors in tea-growing companies.
"There are only two emotions in the market, hope & fear. The problem is you hope when you should fear & fear when you should hope: - Jesse Livermore
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hisah
#5188 Posted : Tuesday, August 19, 2014 6:29:56 AM
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murchr wrote:
In the headlines
the Star wrote:
Fusion Group has disclosed plans to exit one of its private equity investments via the Nairobi Securities Exchange, in what will be its first exit through a public offering.

The hybrid fund management and private equity firm is to exit its 45 per cent stake in GAL Baking Services Ltd, a bakery operating out of Nairobi, by listing on the Growth Enterprise Market Segment on the NSE.


The Sharks can smell blood in the water.

The Star wrote:
Tea companies and smallholder farmers face big shocks in earnings decline owing to lower prices, according to researchers at the Economist Intelligence Unit. The cash crop has been Kenya's biggest export earner but price depression and a drop in overall production will impact negatively on farmers and investors in tea-growing companies.

IPOs are mostly exits. Quite interesting the PE prefers an IPO than finding a strategic investor(s) to buy their stake. I pity wanjiku...

KES weak, inflation above target, tbill rates high, econ slump but mr market insists on taking out NSE20 5,000pts level. Mr market has decided macroeconomics don't matter! Pray

KE's USD revenues are facing headwinds all year long and nobody sees this?!
$15/barrel oil... The commodities lehman moment arrives as well as Sovereign debt volcano!
wanyee
#5189 Posted : Friday, August 29, 2014 11:26:04 AM
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murchr wrote:
wanyee wrote:
KORCH will stagnate at 21 bob..


WHY? Its already up 186%

Laughing out loudly smile Korch ...zooming now at 15 bob.. it will plateau at 21 possibly
wanyee
#5190 Posted : Thursday, September 04, 2014 1:05:33 PM
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at 20 bob KORCH...an acquisition is in the offing ..this one will de-list
Aguytrying
#5191 Posted : Thursday, September 04, 2014 3:30:15 PM
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senior chartist hisah. what's going on with nse rallying to new heights? has the script changed or is it the climb before the fall
The investor's chief problem - and even his worst enemy - is likely to be himself
hisah
#5192 Posted : Thursday, September 04, 2014 3:53:16 PM
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Aguytrying wrote:
senior chartist hisah. what's going on with nse rallying to new heights? has the script changed or is it the climb before the fall

Vol spread says we are near topping! Worse econ macros for KE are out of sorts! CBK holds its rate ignoring the macros. They did the same in 2010. Then top that up with the referendum political temperature. The rally is unsustainable.

I like it when I'm a lonely voice against the crowd smile

The cycle is repeating itself - http://ow.ly/B54zG


Btw in the fx market we are witnessing the making of a strong USD and have been discussing it in the realities of fx thread. @philanga @mnandii @ceinz etc
$15/barrel oil... The commodities lehman moment arrives as well as Sovereign debt volcano!
kasibitta
#5193 Posted : Thursday, September 04, 2014 3:59:20 PM
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hisah wrote:
Aguytrying wrote:
senior chartist hisah. what's going on with nse rallying to new heights? has the script changed or is it the climb before the fall

Vol spread says we are near topping! Worse econ macros for KE are out of sorts! CBK holds its rate ignoring the macros. They did the same in 2010. Then top that up with the referendum political temperature. The rally is unsustainable.

I like it when I'm a lonely voice against the crowd smile

The cycle is repeating itself - http://ow.ly/B54zG


Btw in the fx market we are witnessing the making of a strong USD and have been discussing it in the realities of fx thread. @philanga @mnandii @ceinz etc



more like be fearful when others are greedy and greedy when others are fearful.

One thing i see is everyone seems to be talking shares....only time will tell.
jawgey
#5194 Posted : Thursday, September 04, 2014 4:25:53 PM
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kasibitta wrote:
hisah wrote:
Aguytrying wrote:
senior chartist hisah. what's going on with nse rallying to new heights? has the script changed or is it the climb before the fall

Vol spread says we are near topping! Worse econ macros for KE are out of sorts! CBK holds its rate ignoring the macros. They did the same in 2010. Then top that up with the referendum political temperature. The rally is unsustainable.

I like it when I'm a lonely voice against the crowd smile

The cycle is repeating itself - http://ow.ly/B54zG


Btw in the fx market we are witnessing the making of a strong USD and have been discussing it in the realities of fx thread. @philanga @mnandii @ceinz etc



more like be fearful when others are greedy and greedy when others are fearful.

One thing i see is everyone seems to be talking shares....only time will tell.


Very true! I have a friend who is new in this game he has literally pumped a fortune in Home Afrika- Apparently he was advised by some other 'friends'. If the hype in the streets about how shares will make people millionaires overnight is something to go by in determining an imminent bear then its coming!
Seeing is believing
wanyee
#5195 Posted : Wednesday, September 10, 2014 5:02:51 PM
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KORCH ..new heights of 26 bob
Othelo
#5196 Posted : Wednesday, September 10, 2014 5:05:24 PM
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wanyee wrote:
KORCH ..new heights of 26 bob

Might be the best performer of the quarter/year the way things are going! smile
Formal education will make you a living. Self-education will make you a fortune - Jim Rohn.
wanyee
#5197 Posted : Friday, September 12, 2014 4:03:12 PM
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Othelo wrote:
wanyee wrote:
KORCH ..new heights of 26 bob

Might be the best performer of the quarter/year the way things are going! smile

now past 30...is it headed to 60?smile
Pesa Nane
#5198 Posted : Friday, September 12, 2014 4:50:10 PM
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wanyee wrote:
Othelo wrote:
wanyee wrote:
KORCH ..new heights of 26 bob

Might be the best performer of the quarter/year the way things are going! smile

now past 30...is it headed to 60?smile

ahem
Pesa Nane plans to be shilingi when he grows up.
wanyee
#5199 Posted : Monday, September 15, 2014 4:20:04 PM
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Pesa Nane wrote:
wanyee wrote:
Othelo wrote:
wanyee wrote:
KORCH ..new heights of 26 bob

Might be the best performer of the quarter/year the way things are going! smile

now past 30...is it headed to 60?smile

ahem

KORCH 34.50 +9.52% ..that cycle again to buy the cheap ones like XPRESS ..the market is heating up
dunkang
#5200 Posted : Monday, September 15, 2014 6:44:31 PM
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wanyee wrote:
Pesa Nane wrote:
wanyee wrote:
Othelo wrote:
wanyee wrote:
KORCH ..new heights of 26 bob

Might be the best performer of the quarter/year the way things are going! smile

now past 30...is it headed to 60?smile

ahem

KORCH 34.50 +9.52% ..that cycle again to buy the cheap ones like XPRESS ..the market is heating up

Whats the volume? Fumes brother, fumes. Today it did 100 shares, the lowest number of shares you can trade openly. Do you know why? How?
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