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#101 Posted : Wednesday, August 13, 2014 12:30:08 PM
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AlphDoti wrote:
This is just some I thought I could post here. Please no need to attack, just enjoy the wisdom in it.

* Islam says cover your body and don't be naked, THEY say Islam is primitive

* Islam says no shaking of hands between opposite sex, THEY say Islam is hard (this solves 50% of the infection, remember EBOLA is transmitted through Saliva, sweat, tears, blood or semen).

* Islam says wash your body at least 5 times a day to get rid of impurities, before each of the 5 prayers in a day, THEY say purification is only of the mind.

Now EBOLA came knocking and you see all of THEM covering their bodies, staying away from restricted handshakes ans washing their bodies like never before.

(I hear now they are being told to wash themselves with hot water and salt! This is an hoax)

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Islam saves our lives so that later the jihadists can get someone to kill!
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symbols
#102 Posted : Wednesday, August 13, 2014 12:40:15 PM
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masukuma wrote:
symbols wrote:
masukuma wrote:
Muriel wrote:
symbols wrote:
The One Question About Ebola That Nobody Can Seem To Answer

How in the world is it possible that more than 170 health workers have been infected by the Ebola virus?

Barriers to rapid containment of the Ebola outbreak



Question. More.

Especially "official" statements and communiques.

That's what good scientists do. Question and then seek answers.

this has been answered OVER AND OVER AND OVER AND OVER AND OVER AND OVER AND OVER AND OVER AND OVER AND OVER AND OVER AND OVER AND OVER..... again! Remember these are the people who are taking care of these individuals when they are at their most infectious! a small lapse and pap! coz "an infinitesimally small amount can cause illness. Laboratory experiments on nonhuman primates suggest that even a single virus may be enough to trigger a fatal infection."... it just requires one virus! one virus not cleaned on the clothing... removing gloves with your hands can prove fatal... there are so many combinations and permutations of things that can go wrong in a hospital where ebola patients live... INCLUDING THE WALLS an infectious patient can touch the wall and PAP... wewe ushike... upatikane.


Does that include money?

quite likely.... but this is specifically for INFECTIOUS PEOPLE. the virus has a limited number of hours outside the body and so if an INFECTIOUS person handles money and you handle that money soon after that utapatikana - in the same way the Ugandan fellow in the top story was patwad. however if he put his money on a cupboard for a certain amount of time (X hrs) and you handle it after - you may be safe. the last I heard X was 5 hours. It is generally a good practice to use hand sanitizers before accepting money... I had my own at hand sanitizer for that purpose... plus opening doors and sometimes handling spoons in restaurants e.t.c.


most establishments now have these bucketsful of chrorinated water in their entrances


it may be debatable on their effectiveness but to me it's more effective as a reminder to persons in the affected countries that this sh*t is real... get with the program.
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masukuma
#103 Posted : Wednesday, August 13, 2014 1:15:17 PM
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symbols wrote:
masukuma wrote:
symbols wrote:
masukuma wrote:
Muriel wrote:
symbols wrote:
The One Question About Ebola That Nobody Can Seem To Answer

How in the world is it possible that more than 170 health workers have been infected by the Ebola virus?

Barriers to rapid containment of the Ebola outbreak



Question. More.

Especially "official" statements and communiques.

That's what good scientists do. Question and then seek answers.

this has been answered OVER AND OVER AND OVER AND OVER AND OVER AND OVER AND OVER AND OVER AND OVER AND OVER AND OVER AND OVER AND OVER..... again! Remember these are the people who are taking care of these individuals when they are at their most infectious! a small lapse and pap! coz "an infinitesimally small amount can cause illness. Laboratory experiments on nonhuman primates suggest that even a single virus may be enough to trigger a fatal infection."... it just requires one virus! one virus not cleaned on the clothing... removing gloves with your hands can prove fatal... there are so many combinations and permutations of things that can go wrong in a hospital where ebola patients live... INCLUDING THE WALLS an infectious patient can touch the wall and PAP... wewe ushike... upatikane.


Does that include money?

quite likely.... but this is specifically for INFECTIOUS PEOPLE. the virus has a limited number of hours outside the body and so if an INFECTIOUS person handles money and you handle that money soon after that utapatikana - in the same way the Ugandan fellow in the top story was patwad. however if he put his money on a cupboard for a certain amount of time (X hrs) and you handle it after - you may be safe. the last I heard X was 5 hours. It is generally a good practice to use hand sanitizers before accepting money... I had my own at hand sanitizer for that purpose... plus opening doors and sometimes handling spoons in restaurants e.t.c.


most establishments now have these bucketsful of chrorinated water in their entrances


it may be debatable on their effectiveness but to me it's more effective as a reminder to persons in the affected countries that this sh*t is real... get with the program.



good to know.. the figure has been a bit to come by.
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Muriel
#104 Posted : Wednesday, August 13, 2014 1:28:02 PM
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So using hand sanitizers (with moisturizer and vitamin E) each and every single time one handles items is ok.

But wondering about flights is an overkill and an unreasonable overreaction.

ISOKEI!
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masukuma
#105 Posted : Wednesday, August 13, 2014 1:32:57 PM
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Muriel wrote:
So using hand sanitizers (with moisturizer and vitamin E) each and every single time one handles items is ok.

But wondering about flights is an overkill and an unreasonable overreaction.

ISOKEI!

you need to underline that! sio hivi hivi... it has moisturizer and vitamin E!
Flights are an overkill coz anyone who wants to come home will come home even if it's via Rwanda or Ethiopia or Accra or Gambia or even Brussels....
All Mushrooms are edible! Some Mushroom are only edible ONCE!
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Muriel
#106 Posted : Wednesday, August 13, 2014 2:10:35 PM
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masukuma wrote:
Muriel wrote:
So using hand sanitizers (with moisturizer and vitamin E) each and every single time one handles items is ok.

But wondering about flights is an overkill and an unreasonable overreaction.

ISOKEI!

you need to underline that! sio hivi hivi... it has moisturizer and vitamin E!
Flights are an overkill coz anyone who wants to come home will come home even if it's via Rwanda or Ethiopia or Accra or Gambia or even Brussels....

Yes.

Additional check points is an overkill.

Increasing the number of "filters" on the homeward bound route is an overkill.

I gotta get me self some moisturizer!

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masukuma
#107 Posted : Wednesday, August 13, 2014 2:26:20 PM
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Muriel wrote:
masukuma wrote:
Muriel wrote:
So using hand sanitizers (with moisturizer and vitamin E) each and every single time one handles items is ok.

But wondering about flights is an overkill and an unreasonable overreaction.

ISOKEI!

you need to underline that! sio hivi hivi... it has moisturizer and vitamin E!
Flights are an overkill coz anyone who wants to come home will come home even if it's via Rwanda or Ethiopia or Accra or Gambia or even Brussels....

Yes.

Additional check points is an overkill.

Increasing the number of "filters" on the homeward bound route is an overkill.

I gotta get me self some moisturizer!

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stopping flights is an overkill! just checking west african flights is an underkill

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Muriel
#108 Posted : Wednesday, August 13, 2014 3:23:33 PM
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Alright.
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#109 Posted : Wednesday, August 13, 2014 4:36:37 PM
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masukuma
#110 Posted : Wednesday, August 13, 2014 5:20:53 PM
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symbols wrote:
Ebola outbreak: Kenya at high risk, warns WHO


my take! I actually think Ghana is more high risk than even Kenya - this is my justification (no data...no science just perceptions). I just ask myself the following questions
1. how many liberian-kenyans, sierra leonean - kenyans or guinea-kenyans do you know/are even there? how many people from those countries do you know that have interests in kenya? let's say they are X such people from a population of 20 million people.
2. how many of those people do you think have contacted Ebola over the last 8-10 days (max 21 days)? let's call this subset of X - Y!
3. how many of these people are able to get onboard a plane before showing symptoms? let's say they are Z people out of this population of Y.

What figure do you think Z represents?

Let's do another similar analysis
1. how many liberian-americans, sierra leonean - americans or guinea-americans are there? how many people from those countries do you know that have interests in the US? let's say they are A such people from a population of 20 million people.
2. how many of those people do you think have contacted Ebola over the last 8-10 days (max 21 days)? let's call this subset of A - B!
3. how many of these people are able to get onboard a plane before showing symptoms? let's say they are C people out of this population of B.

What figure do you think B represents? Where do these B people transit through? Kenya? Do the same with British Interests and European Interests. Since most airlines are not flying there - most of these people head to Accra and get onboard western bound flights.

The only people originating from these 3 countries are
1. Kenyan NGO workers (if they are not all back home already)
2. Chinese/Asian workers from businesses and huko interior - transiting through JKIA going East!


that's my 2 cent analysis.
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