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Rank: Elder Joined: 10/4/2006 Posts: 13,821 Location: Nairobi
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tycho wrote:masukuma wrote:tycho wrote:masukuma wrote:Let's just say the truth - we fear everything, deep sea diving, living at the coast (tsunamis), flying and roller coasters as seen here  We tend to think we are brave folk but that is just our brain making excuses - do you think a black fellow would have done a columbus or a vasco da gama? heading out to parts unknown not knowing of the edge of the world was actual and they would fall off? Fear isn't the only reason for an 'African' not to 'do a Vasco da Gama. Then again we must have a common agreement on what 'African' means. And what time spans are involved. indeed you are right... by the way it's not only 'africans'.. coz I don't know of any red indian who goes bag packing into the dense african forests just for kicks! the problem (if any) is much more a cultural difference than a race thing. What do you grow up being told? is risking life and limb appreciated in your society or are you scolded when you try? it's much deeper. Tafakari hayo. Firstly, I can understand the fear that's gripping 'me' as an 'African'. The things I have heard and read, seen done, about Africa. But then the question of what one must make for himself is and has always been open. Regardless of lessons. Freedom entails choice. To do or not to do. If you look at the history of Man you'll find a balance of goodness in all cultures. I got a clearer view of the African by reading H.M Stanley's 'Through the dark continent'. Clash of values, and similarity in essence. Vasco da Gama used a Ptolemaic Atlas. Was/is Ptolemy an African? What's fear? How do humans become fearful? Can one learn not to fear? Can an African love life, himself, 'others', equally? That, ironically, is all that matters. It's the greatest one can do. Has the African done this? Stanley says it over and over, the Africans were mostly so eager for brotherhood. Even when they marveled at the 'white Man'. He(Livingstone) narrates an encounter with the people of 'Uhyeya' "a tribe who are decidedly lower in humanity than their 'ingenious' neighbors." People who ate all flesh except that of dogs. People who were rumored to be cannibals. Yet these people "were admirable for their readiness with which they supplied all our wants, voluntarily offering themselves, as guides to Uvinza, the next country we had to traverse." Africans had all they needed. Even the most 'primitive'. The Mayan Calender is still alive, it's going deep into the 'future'. Or the wisdom of the 'Aborigines'. So much Afrikana! I agreed with you first time! All Mushrooms are edible! Some Mushroom are only edible ONCE!
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Rank: Veteran Joined: 1/16/2007 Posts: 1,320
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Africans are fearless when it matters not just for kicks. Check out my boys from narok..
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Rank: Veteran Joined: 1/16/2007 Posts: 1,320
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But that ride... eish!! someone put a youtube link to that.
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Rank: Elder Joined: 10/4/2006 Posts: 13,821 Location: Nairobi
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Mtu Biz wrote:Africans are fearless when it matters not just for kicks.Check out my boys from narok.. keep telling yourself that! tunaogopa vitu innocuous kama maji! those Maasai men live this thing through out - ni kama wewe kuelewa ng'ombe if you are a farmer but how easy would it be for those maasai men to dip their toes into some bit of discomfort? We have the right stuff but we have been raised to fear everything including politics. Siku za moi made most of us fear public criticism of garment. The cause of the fear is gone but we have institutionalised it - kama zile monkeys on the other thread. All Mushrooms are edible! Some Mushroom are only edible ONCE!
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Rank: Elder Joined: 7/1/2011 Posts: 8,804 Location: Nairobi
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masukuma wrote:tycho wrote:masukuma wrote:tycho wrote:masukuma wrote:Let's just say the truth - we fear everything, deep sea diving, living at the coast (tsunamis), flying and roller coasters as seen here We tend to think we are brave folk but that is just our brain making excuses - do you think a black fellow would have done a columbus or a vasco da gama? heading out to parts unknown not knowing of the edge of the world was actual and they would fall off? Fear isn't the only reason for an 'African' not to 'do a Vasco da Gama. Then again we must have a common agreement on what 'African' means. And what time spans are involved. indeed you are right... by the way it's not only 'africans'.. coz I don't know of any red indian who goes bag packing into the dense african forests just for kicks! the problem (if any) is much more a cultural difference than a race thing. What do you grow up being told? is risking life and limb appreciated in your society or are you scolded when you try? it's much deeper. Tafakari hayo. Firstly, I can understand the fear that's gripping 'me' as an 'African'. The things I have heard and read, seen done, about Africa. But then the question of what one must make for himself is and has always been open. Regardless of lessons. Freedom entails choice. To do or not to do. If you look at the history of Man you'll find a balance of goodness in all cultures. I got a clearer view of the African by reading H.M Stanley's 'Through the dark continent'. Clash of values, and similarity in essence. Vasco da Gama used a Ptolemaic Atlas. Was/is Ptolemy an African? What's fear? How do humans become fearful? Can one learn not to fear? Can an African love life, himself, 'others', equally? That, ironically, is all that matters. It's the greatest one can do. Has the African done this? Stanley says it over and over, the Africans were mostly so eager for brotherhood. Even when they marveled at the 'white Man'. He(Livingstone) narrates an encounter with the people of 'Uhyeya' "a tribe who are decidedly lower in humanity than their 'ingenious' neighbors." People who ate all flesh except that of dogs. People who were rumored to be cannibals. Yet these people "were admirable for their readiness with which they supplied all our wants, voluntarily offering themselves, as guides to Uvinza, the next country we had to traverse." Africans had all they needed. Even the most 'primitive'. The Mayan Calender is still alive, it's going deep into the 'future'. Or the wisdom of the 'Aborigines'. So much Afrikana! I agreed with you first time! Let's have more agreement. Fear of an activity is natural to All humans.
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Rank: Elder Joined: 7/1/2011 Posts: 8,804 Location: Nairobi
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Which of these requires courage; to gain the trust of lions, or to kill them? What makes an act fearless?
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Rank: Elder Joined: 10/4/2006 Posts: 13,821 Location: Nairobi
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tycho wrote:Which of these requires courage; to gain the trust of lions, or to kill them? What makes an act fearless?
wewe wacha excuses... panda boat! All Mushrooms are edible! Some Mushroom are only edible ONCE!
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Rank: Veteran Joined: 1/16/2007 Posts: 1,320
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masukuma wrote:[quote=Mtu Biz]
Africans are fearless when it matters not just for kicks.
Check out my boys from narok..
keep telling yourself that! tunaogopa vitu innocuous kama maji! those Maasai men live this thing through out - ni kama wewe kuelewa ng'ombe if you are a farmer but how easy would it be for those maasai men to dip their toes into some bit of discomfort? We have the right stuff but we have been raised to fear everything including politics. Siku za moi made most of us fear public criticism of garment. The cause of the fear is gone but we have institutionalised it - kama zile monkeys on the other thread. Chief wazungus have had these types of rides since the 1800s throwing an african who has only seen there rides on tv, whose father and grandfather have never even imagined such a thing and comparing his reaction to a mzungus reaction is not comparing like for like.
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Rank: Elder Joined: 7/1/2011 Posts: 8,804 Location: Nairobi
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masukuma wrote:tycho wrote:Which of these requires courage; to gain the trust of lions, or to kill them? What makes an act fearless?
wewe wacha excuses... panda boat! Hahahaha! Boat? Nipate Uhuru park deep end.
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Rank: User Joined: 8/15/2013 Posts: 13,237 Location: Vacuum
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tycho wrote:masukuma wrote:tycho wrote:Which of these requires courage; to gain the trust of lions, or to kill them? What makes an act fearless?
wewe wacha excuses... panda boat! Hahahaha! Boat? Nipate Uhuru park deep end.  If Obiero did it, Who Am I?
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Rank: Member Joined: 7/1/2008 Posts: 323
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Rank: Veteran Joined: 11/20/2009 Posts: 1,402
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Um Sayala wrote:Muheani wrote:What do you do when while you were growing up you constantly were reminded
1. dont point at the grave with the finger..you will die
2. If an owl like perches on your house..someone is dead...n they did die..
3. Dont go through the forest alone..u will meet the devil
4. Teenage boys-Dont Susu in bed...you will never get it up
5. Girls..dont play around with boys..they sting
6. Dont walk around at night..you will meet marimu
7. dont
8. Dont.
....men you FEAR
@Muheani, that highlighted point has blown your cover. I know you. kumbe the old Lady really scared you. Namwombea apone haraka. ..am a father dude...
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Rank: Member Joined: 4/26/2011 Posts: 759
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Muheani wrote:Um Sayala wrote:Muheani wrote:What do you do when while you were growing up you constantly were reminded
1. dont point at the grave with the finger..you will die
2. If an owl like perches on your house..someone is dead...n they did die..
3. Dont go through the forest alone..u will meet the devil
4. Teenage boys-Dont Susu in bed...you will never get it up
5. Girls..dont play around with boys..they sting
6. Dont walk around at night..you will meet marimu
7. dont
8. Dont.
....men you FEAR
@Muheani, that highlighted point has blown your cover. I know you. kumbe the old Lady really scared you. Namwombea apone haraka. ..am a father dude... You forgot this ones. 1. Don't question the elders/Authority 2. You can not answer back to the elders/keep your opinion for yourself
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Rank: Elder Joined: 10/4/2006 Posts: 13,821 Location: Nairobi
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Rank: Elder Joined: 10/4/2006 Posts: 13,821 Location: Nairobi
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Physics working... would you? knowing above fear! All Mushrooms are edible! Some Mushroom are only edible ONCE!
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Rank: Member Joined: 3/14/2012 Posts: 577 Location: Nairobi Kenya
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Africans have gone through so many problems, they don't have the leisure to tempt fate. We have hunger, poverty, mosquitoes and dictators to deal with. That's a full plate if you ask me. Personally am afraid of heights so you better rob me than tell me to go inside that contraption. Already, the banana ride here makes me scream like a little girl. >>>Anyone with a YouTube link to that?? Before I die - i will touch the sky!!
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Rank: Elder Joined: 6/21/2008 Posts: 2,490
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Rank: Member Joined: 3/14/2012 Posts: 577 Location: Nairobi Kenya
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if that was my physics teacher I might have been an engineer Before I die - i will touch the sky!!
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Rank: Elder Joined: 1/17/2013 Posts: 4,693 Location: Earth
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We don't fear! We are just too careful,because the consequences of our dares can be too expensive or tragic to handle and our support systems suck suck suck!!.
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Rank: User Joined: 8/15/2013 Posts: 13,237 Location: Vacuum
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kysse wrote:We don't fear! We are just too careful,because the consequences of our dares can be too expensive or tragic to handle and our support systems suck suck suck!!.
Hello baibe If Obiero did it, Who Am I?
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