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Sameer inks deal with China firm for cheaper tyres
Realtreaty
#1 Posted : Sunday, May 04, 2014 10:45:14 PM
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Now we may skip and hope that the stock wil return to its original good health state of 20s to 30s. How quick can it prosper?
It has its Yana brand and others been battered by cheap wheels that enter East African market via Egypt on Comesa grounds. Egypt has been an entry port as well as a dumping ground due to the Suez canal. The reek then spreads to the sub-saharan Africa. Other goods that enter African market via Egypt are cosmestics, ceramics and sanitary materials, confectionaries, and crockery which seem harvested from the East and re-exported to Comesa region with filmy duty.
Magnate
#2 Posted : Monday, May 05, 2014 9:44:56 AM
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If you can,t beat them join them.level the playing ground with cheap tires also at the expense of kenyan jobs ofcourse.

Sameer Africa enters franchise agreement with Asian manufacturer to boost sales.
The new Chinese partner is expected to provide Sameer with cheaper tyres in its portfolio to boost its sales volumes.
Sameer, which is listed at the Nairobi Securities Exchange, is set to introduce a new brand of tyres from the Chinese firm later this year.

http://www.businessdaily...2/-/13fs7q9/-/index.html
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Realtreaty
#3 Posted : Monday, May 05, 2014 11:26:36 AM
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The Kenyan Govt was unable to impose heavier duties on imported tyres entering comesa market from Egypt and Sudan. Sameer was and has been claiming the imbalance and it should now be allowed to go fish for its own at a lower cost in the shallow waters of Asia where Egyptians are trawling.smile
Ofcourse Kenya should be the best friend of the new superpower. 90% of what kenyans use comes from Asia from school bags, handkerchiefs to all electronics.
The wheels will give Sameer the advantage of lower labour cost and material cost. Instead of shipping materials why not ship finished goods? Everyone is now importing!!!
Realtreaty
#4 Posted : Thursday, July 17, 2014 6:06:07 PM
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The deal is almost on the books and soon the speed of rise will be witnessed.
The best thing is Sameer is not creating new shares by bring in a partner. I suspect we could be in for a bonus FY 2014 results.
maka
#5 Posted : Sunday, August 03, 2014 12:14:56 PM
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Profit warning in today's Sunday Nation...HY i.e
possunt quia posse videntur
maka
#6 Posted : Sunday, August 03, 2014 12:32:56 PM
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maka wrote:
Profit warning in today's Sunday Nation...HY i.e

possunt quia posse videntur
icecube
#7 Posted : Sunday, August 03, 2014 12:50:15 PM
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maka wrote:
Profit warning in today's Sunday Nation...HY i.e


Let the dumping begin!
littledove
#8 Posted : Monday, August 04, 2014 9:00:15 AM
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icecube wrote:
maka wrote:
Profit warning in today's Sunday Nation...HY i.e


Let the dumping begin!

their was a discussion on this share last year and wazuans cautioned against merali. well some people made money but as sparkly wrote "Another screwing for Wanjiku by Merali...This guy is a shark and sharks eat small fish'' many people will unfortunately be caught up here
http://m.wazua.co.ke/forum.aspx?g=posts&t=26542
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#9 Posted : Monday, August 04, 2014 9:35:26 AM
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Where is @Realtreaty to defend @merali!
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#10 Posted : Monday, August 04, 2014 9:40:12 AM
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Thanks @littledove for referring those of us who might have missed the thread and 'would be' victims of Sameer Africa's latest deal. We now know what we are faced with should we go down that route.
Realtreaty
#11 Posted : Monday, August 04, 2014 10:12:11 AM
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icecube wrote:
maka wrote:
Profit warning in today's Sunday Nation...HY i.e


Let the dumping begin!

....and where is the link apart from photocopy from i wonder where on a none- trading day (sunday Nation) I would love to see it on Business Daily and a copy on NSE.
But Profit warning does not even appear on SameerAfrica website!!
Is this a leaked document?
Or Icecube want to chip in at lower price?
Is the idea meant to lower theis stock price so that Sameer can create more shres for the partner?
I will cross the river when I rech there.
Realtreaty
#12 Posted : Monday, August 04, 2014 10:14:24 AM
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icecube wrote:
maka wrote:
Profit warning in today's Sunday Nation...HY i.e


Let the dumping begin!

....and where is the link apart from photocopy from i wonder where on a none- trading day (sunday Nation) I would love to see it on Business Daily and a copy on NSE.
But Profit warning does not even appear on SameerAfrica website!!
Is this a leaked document?
Or Icecube want to chip in at lower price?
Is the idea meant to lower theis stock price so that Sameer can create more shres for the partner?
I will cross the river when I reach there.
Akenyan2014
#13 Posted : Monday, August 04, 2014 10:46:48 AM
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littledove wrote:
icecube wrote:
maka wrote:
Profit warning in today's Sunday Nation...HY i.e


Let the dumping begin!

their was a discussion on this share last year and wazuans cautioned against merali. well some people made money but as sparkly wrote "Another screwing for Wanjiku by Merali...This guy is a shark and sharks eat small fish'' many people will unfortunately be caught up here
http://m.wazua.co.ke/forum.aspx?g=posts&t=26542


What is wrong with merali telling you that this year he did not sell land as he did last year? They were just doing what is required of them: declare a profit warning. I think nothing has changed fundamentally, going back to the previous pace of performance, if you believe in you can join.
maka
#14 Posted : Thursday, August 07, 2014 10:20:59 AM
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Going down...@Ak,nobody said it was wrong many people would have missed it,now that it's not on the company or NSE website,it's only fair to shareholders to have access to information regarding any company they invest in...@Realtreaty I don't publish the Sunday Nation,you can call Nation centre and ask who paid for the ad.
possunt quia posse videntur
Akenyan2014
#15 Posted : Thursday, August 07, 2014 10:36:38 AM
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maka wrote:
Going down...@Ak,nobody said it was wrong many people would have missed it,now that it's not on the company or NSE website,it's only fair to shareholders to have access to information regarding any company they invest in...@Realtreaty I don't publish the Sunday Nation,you can call Nation centre and ask who paid for the ad.


But their website is too optimistic outlining quite a diversified business ventures, I expected them to be bringing in much more revenues than they have been doing. But sub 5 might tempt me to start entry.
But for their tyre business, it seems the market will always be there especially with cheaper brands. You can see Kingsway Tyres ltd plans to invest Sh50 million in a retread production line.
target1360
#16 Posted : Thursday, August 07, 2014 12:58:40 PM
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Akenyan2014 wrote:
maka wrote:
Going down...@Ak,nobody said it was wrong many people would have missed it,now that it's not on the company or NSE website,it's only fair to shareholders to have access to information regarding any company they invest in...@Realtreaty I don't publish the Sunday Nation,you can call Nation centre and ask who paid for the ad.


But their website is too optimistic outlining quite a diversified business ventures, I expected them to be bringing in much more revenues than they have been doing. But sub 5 might tempt me to start entry.
But for their tyre business, it seems the market will always be there especially with cheaper brands. You can see Kingsway Tyres ltd plans to invest Sh50 million in a retread production line.

Am not sure whether all those companies on the website constitute the listed business
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VituVingiSana
#17 Posted : Thursday, August 07, 2014 2:01:37 PM
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1) Don't assume a profitable business sporting "Sameer" is part of "Sameer Africa"
2) Merali always looks out for #1. #1 = Merali
3) Instead of letting a strategic investor buy into Sameer Africa using NEW money [issue of new shares at fair price] what Merali did was buy out Bridgestone's shares & then he will re-sell them to the "Strategic Investor" ... So Sameer Investments [or whatever proxy he uses] gets the profit while the firm Sameer Africa remains starved of capital.
4) Sale of land along Mombasa Road. That is Sameer Africa's major asset but it is being sold if not taken over by Merali's firms in JV deals.
Greedy when others are fearful. Very fearful when others are greedy - to paraphrase Warren Buffett
VituVingiSana
#18 Posted : Thursday, August 07, 2014 2:05:00 PM
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maka wrote:
Going down...@Ak,nobody said it was wrong many people would have missed it,now that it's not on the company or NSE website,it's only fair to shareholders to have access to information regarding any company they invest in...@Realtreaty I don't publish the Sunday Nation,you can call Nation centre and ask who paid for the ad.
Applause Applause Applause And is it on NSE website? Nothing new if NSE doesn't publish it.
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Akenyan2014
#19 Posted : Thursday, August 07, 2014 2:08:11 PM
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VituVingiSana wrote:
1) Don't assume a profitable business sporting "Sameer" is part of "Sameer Africa"
2) Merali always looks out for #1. #1 = Merali
3) Instead of letting a strategic investor buy into Sameer Africa using NEW money [issue of new shares at fair price] what Merali did was buy out Bridgestone's shares & then he will re-sell them to the "Strategic Investor" ... So Sameer Investments [or whatever proxy he uses] gets the profit while the firm Sameer Africa remains starved of capital.
4) Sale of land along Mombasa Road. That is Sameer Africa's major asset but it is being sold if not taken over by Merali's firms in JV deals.


Ok, well said, Chief. They tried to upload a bit of information on their 'investor' section. Exactly which are the businesses that constitute what I am tempted to buy through NSE?
Realtreaty
#20 Posted : Friday, August 22, 2014 6:53:27 PM
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Could this be the trial by the new partner?
Is Merali minting billions by keeping most of his affiliated stocks low priced.
When sameer was moving up he quickly sommersaulted and gave a profit warning to bring the price down either for him to buy more from Wanjiku before the actual date when the price will rise.
This is given by the fact tht his SIC(Sameer Investment Company)has big interest is Yana and may want to hold over 35% if the partner demands 49% and the public and other interest groups safeguarding 14%
smile
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