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Rank: Elder Joined: 3/2/2009 Posts: 26,328 Location: Masada
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Wapi Dr. Mukiri? Portfolio: Sold You know you've made it when you get a parking space for your yatcht.
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Rank: Elder Joined: 6/21/2008 Posts: 2,490
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This is a Pfizer product one of the biggest pharmaceutical companies in the world The man who marries a beautiful woman, and the farmer who grows corn by the roadside have the same problem
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Rank: Veteran Joined: 1/16/2007 Posts: 1,320
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This should not surprise anyone. If it does surprise or shock you, take time off and take a barefoot walk in the park. Listen to the birds and the wind in the trees. Consider the ants and butterflies. They will reveal to you the personal and collective insanity of the human race.
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Rank: Elder Joined: 3/2/2009 Posts: 26,328 Location: Masada
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I urge all couples who are active like @Bigchick,@McReggae,@washiku,@sheri and @I-n-I and who want plan their families to use condom and where possible to practice coitus-interruptus! Portfolio: Sold You know you've made it when you get a parking space for your yatcht.
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Rank: Elder Joined: 3/2/2009 Posts: 26,328 Location: Masada
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We can demonstrate this to them at a time of their choice, dear dada. Portfolio: Sold You know you've made it when you get a parking space for your yatcht.
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Rank: Elder Joined: 4/22/2010 Posts: 11,522 Location: Nairobi
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Rank: Elder Joined: 5/26/2009 Posts: 1,793
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What kind of research reporting is that? Is it likely that after getting Depo Jabs, women get more promiscuous? Or does Depo contain traces of HIV virus? Its like saying that Probox cars cause more accidents without enumerating whether Proboxes are bad cars, or more likely to have bad drivers.
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Rank: Elder Joined: 3/2/2009 Posts: 26,328 Location: Masada
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kenmac wrote:What kind of research reporting is that?
Is it likely that after getting Depo Jabs, women get more promiscuous? Or does Depo contain traces of HIV virus?
Its like saying that Probox cars cause more accidents without enumerating whether Proboxes are bad cars, or more likely to have bad drivers.
Me think ni promiscuity, whether jabs contain virus is something that can be confirmed and determined even in a village dispensary lad! Portfolio: Sold You know you've made it when you get a parking space for your yatcht.
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Rank: Member Joined: 5/17/2014 Posts: 231
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kenmac wrote:What kind of research reporting is that?
Is it likely that after getting Depo Jabs, women get more promiscuous? Or does Depo contain traces of HIV virus?
Its like saying that Probox cars cause more accidents without enumerating whether Proboxes are bad cars, or more likely to have bad drivers.
Exactly, @Kenmac! This research is purely hypothetical. Let's do further research to disprove that warped hypothesis. And if their methodology was to administer DEPO, give condoms and then test for HIV after 6 months, the assumptions are too many and complex to make the results valid and reliable. Though it is obvious that the higher rates of HIV are due to behavioural reasons and not the DEPO itself. DEPO is the most widely used contraceptive in Kenya since it is cheap and safe. Behavioural why? A lady will have sex more often when she is sure she cannot get pregnant. The husband will also be more confident and the frequency of intercourse will increase. Women using a contraceptive method may also have multiple sexual partners. Fact: 99% of men and women don't use condoms on every sexual encounter. Bluntly concluding, DEPO = HIV, is just scientifically inept. Those researchers should know better. No wonder WHO is on their case. What are the alternatives for poor women in Africa? Withdrawal, BTL, Pills, Implants, IUCDs? Condoms are a hard sell. "Occasionally I drop a tea cup to shatter on the floor. On purpose. I am not satisfied when it does not gather itself up again. Someday perhaps that cup will come together."
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Rank: Elder Joined: 11/26/2008 Posts: 2,097
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Bykhovets wrote:kenmac wrote:What kind of research reporting is that?
Is it likely that after getting Depo Jabs, women get more promiscuous? Or does Depo contain traces of HIV virus?
Its like saying that Probox cars cause more accidents without enumerating whether Proboxes are bad cars, or more likely to have bad drivers.
Exactly, @Kenmac! This research is purely hypothetical. Let's do further research to disprove that warped hypothesis. And if their methodology was to administer DEPO, give condoms and then test for HIV after 6 months, the assumptions are too many and complex to make the results valid and reliable. Though it is obvious that the higher rates of HIV are due to behavioural reasons and not the DEPO itself. DEPO is the most widely used contraceptive in Kenya since it is cheap and safe. Behavioural why? A lady will have sex more often when she is sure she cannot get pregnant. The husband will also be more confident and the frequency of intercourse will increase. Women using a contraceptive method may also have multiple sexual partners. Fact: 99% of men and women don't use condoms on every sexual encounter. Bluntly concluding, DEPO = HIV, is just scientifically inept. Those researchers should know better. No wonder WHO is on their case. What are the alternatives for poor women in Africa? Withdrawal, BTL, Pills, Implants, IUCDs? Condoms are a hard sell. Baseless research and reporting. This is more of behavioral rather than scientific finding, period. Those in the group that don't use depo are constrained in their sexual frequencies and fear of getting pregnant than the group that is using depo. Perhaps its the way condom manufacturing companies want to drive up their sales! "Never regret, if its good, its wonderful. If its bad, its experience."
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Rank: Hello Joined: 5/21/2013 Posts: 4
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"Depo Provera Banned"-Njonjo. I say this headline when i was learning to read newspapers. Its only recently that i got to know its not the English version of "caitani Mutharabaini"
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Rank: Veteran Joined: 11/17/2012 Posts: 1,461 Location: Ngong Forest
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Pillager wrote:"Depo Provera Banned"-Njonjo. I say this headline when i was learning to read newspapers. Its only recently that i got to know its not the English version of "caitani Mutharabaini" Hahahaha! Remember then gov used to ban almost everything they did'nt understand, including a play called "Muntu"!
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Rank: Elder Joined: 7/11/2012 Posts: 5,222
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Ati Dr nani? My take, If not HIV then Cancer or some other autoimmune disease. Why play around with hormones?
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Rank: Veteran Joined: 10/11/2009 Posts: 1,223
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It is true..... This has been published in one of the most authoritative journals on earth 'NATURE MEDICINE' since 2009. In a nutshell, what makes humans progress to AIDS but not out distant cousins (non human primates) is immune activation. Depo provera is very potent agent in immune activation. ALL WOMEN SHOULD STICK TO ORAL CONTRACEPTIVES. Bgl Inc. History will not remember you for your IQ. It will remember you for what you did. “Genius is 1 percent inspiration, 99 percent perspiration.” Thomas Edison
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Rank: Elder Joined: 10/4/2006 Posts: 13,821 Location: Nairobi
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BGL wrote:It is true..... This has been published in one of the most authoritative journals on earth 'NATURE MEDICINE' since 2009. In a nutshell, what makes humans progress to AIDS but not out distant cousins (non human primates) is immune activation. Depo provera is very potent agent in immune activation. ALL WOMEN SHOULD STICK TO ORAL CONTRACEPTIVES. Bgl Inc. SIV (Simian Immunodeficiency Virus) is between 30k and 75k years old. HIV is less than 40 years old we still have.... 30,000 - 40 years to get to the point at which monkeys are.... give or take a couple of years! All Mushrooms are edible! Some Mushroom are only edible ONCE!
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Rank: Elder Joined: 3/2/2009 Posts: 26,328 Location: Masada
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masukuma wrote:BGL wrote:It is true..... This has been published in one of the most authoritative journals on earth 'NATURE MEDICINE' since 2009. In a nutshell, what makes humans progress to AIDS but not out distant cousins (non human primates) is immune activation. Depo provera is very potent agent in immune activation. ALL WOMEN SHOULD STICK TO ORAL CONTRACEPTIVES. Bgl Inc. SIV (Simian Immunodeficiency Virus) is between 30k and 75k years old. HIV is less than 40 years old we still have.... 30,000 - 40 years to get to the point at which monkeys are.... give or take a couple of years! I dont think this is a laughing matter especially for people like you who cant practice coittus-interruptus or too small to fit a rubber!! Portfolio: Sold You know you've made it when you get a parking space for your yatcht.
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Rank: Elder Joined: 5/26/2009 Posts: 1,793
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BGL wrote:It is true..... This has been published in one of the most authoritative journals on earth 'NATURE MEDICINE' since 2009. In a nutshell, what makes humans progress to AIDS but not out distant cousins (non human primates) is immune activation. Depo provera is very potent agent in immune activation. ALL WOMEN SHOULD STICK TO ORAL CONTRACEPTIVES. Bgl Inc. Still doesn't answer how Depo causes HIV. If the study reported that Depo accelerates the progression of HIV to AIDS, your answer would make sense. Thinking loud: Does Depo cause HIV? If two HIV negative women,one on Depo and the other on IUD,are exposed to HIV, does the one on Depo stand a higher chance to contract the virus?...if this is true, what mode of planning has the lowest rates of HIV infection? Why?
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Rank: Elder Joined: 10/4/2006 Posts: 13,821 Location: Nairobi
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Impunity wrote:masukuma wrote:BGL wrote:It is true..... This has been published in one of the most authoritative journals on earth 'NATURE MEDICINE' since 2009. In a nutshell, what makes humans progress to AIDS but not out distant cousins (non human primates) is immune activation. Depo provera is very potent agent in immune activation. ALL WOMEN SHOULD STICK TO ORAL CONTRACEPTIVES. Bgl Inc. SIV (Simian Immunodeficiency Virus) is between 30k and 75k years old. HIV is less than 40 years old we still have.... 30,000 - 40 years to get to the point at which monkeys are.... give or take a couple of years! I dont think this is a laughing matter especially for people like you who cant practice coittus-interruptus or too small to fit a rubber!! David Cook wrote:If you can't do anything about it, laugh like hell All Mushrooms are edible! Some Mushroom are only edible ONCE!
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