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Rank: Veteran Joined: 12/17/2010 Posts: 1,163 Location: Sudan
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Sure wrote:Um Sayala wrote:soberly speaking, I dot think God could have created part of the body that should not have a function.
When you mention that, I start wondering whether you went to school? What is the use of the Appendix in the diggestive system?What is the use of armpit hair? Do you want some more body organs that are useless? A man having nipples, for what? So, don't make assumptions yet. Actually, God even made a faulty architectural design for us women. He made the entertainment area right next door to the sewer. The fact that u or scientists do not know the function does not mean it has none. That's like insisting the world is flat, coz it could not be proved otherwise then. Again, that which u call sewer cd as well be somebody's entertainment area, so be careful buddy. Back to my quiz: I want my kofia back, madaktari tafadhalini?, ama mgomo yenu imeanza? LOL "Peace is our profession, War is our business" ...Unknown
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Rank: Elder Joined: 5/26/2009 Posts: 1,793
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Euge wrote:Circumcision is an issue of culture and traditions.The hype about it is an agenda set for us by donors and we are playing into it.
If you want katwa. Kama hutaki kaa nayo. jesus was cut, and God discriminated against gentiles, so besides culture it is also biblical
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Rank: Veteran Joined: 4/4/2007 Posts: 1,162
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Tebes wrote:Sure wrote:[quote=kripp]Read and discuss soberly. Ladies' opinions in particular would be more relevant.
So, I agree with the article as far as the people under study were not getting adequate lubrication. They should start using rubber sheath to prevent excess friction . Yani, the westerns become majimaji sooner than the Africans who are hardy and more solid.  Who called me??
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Rank: Veteran Joined: 7/22/2008 Posts: 1,139
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chemos wrote:Sure wrote:Um Sayala wrote:soberly speaking, I dot think God could have created part of the body that should not have a function.
When you mention that, I start wondering whether you went to school? What is the use of the Appendix in the diggestive system? What is the use of armpit hair? Do you want some more body organs that are useless? A man having nipples, for what? So, don't make assumptions yet. Actually, God even made a faulty architectural design for us women. He made the entertainment area right next door to the sewer. Na kweli watu wako na fikira mengi sana wakakti wakininio... I thought this entertainment hot spot is also a sewer in away.Therefore,the two sewer doors are close to one another "You're not supposed to be so blind with patriotism that you can't face reality. Wrong is wrong, no matter who says it". Malcolm X
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Rank: Elder Joined: 8/4/2008 Posts: 2,849 Location: Rupi
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kenmac wrote:Euge wrote:Circumcision is an issue of culture and traditions.The hype about it is an agenda set for us by donors and we are playing into it.
If you want katwa. Kama hutaki kaa nayo. jesus was cut, and God discriminated against gentiles, so besides culture it is also biblical Are you then insinuating that God didn't love all his people? So they were not in God's image and likeness? Does God love our brothers from the lakeside city? God has favorites? Lord, thank you!
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Rank: Member Joined: 7/9/2011 Posts: 730 Location: Nairobi
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MGM should be encouraged for usafi, hiyo ingine ni porojo, i ll read the original article to see what they found but in these social science studies the results are geratly influenced by the question you set out to study. I wouldnt be surprised if another study came up with opposite results our goals are best achieved indirectly
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Rank: Member Joined: 3/12/2008 Posts: 215
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@kiterunner. It is said that cleanliness is second to Godliness.
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Rank: Veteran Joined: 9/19/2011 Posts: 1,694
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Watu wakatwe.........
“People will believe a big lie sooner than a little one, and if you repeat it frequently enough, people will sooner or later believe it.” ― Walter C. Langer
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Rank: Elder Joined: 7/10/2008 Posts: 9,131 Location: Kanjo
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Rank: Member Joined: 10/27/2010 Posts: 266 Location: Nairobi
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Um Sayala wrote:soberly speaking, I dot think God could have created part of the body that should not have a function. The circumcision of male species in Middle east cd have come about coz of lack of water in the desert,for hygiene purposes. and also it was a covenant.
Now Ill start believing why our lakeside brothers seemed to be loved by women from all walks of life.
can I have my foreskin back, doctors in the house?
“This is a highly sensitive issue, and some people oppose the publication of this kind of research. Some people have actually tried to stop the publication of our article,” he explains.
From the same link.
I can identify with that study. I got cut in my late twenties, when I was already a veteran at "Mombasa Raha". To my dismay, my stimulation immediately dropped by about 30%. If I had got cut in my pre-teens before I became sexually active, I probably would not have noticed the diminished stimulation. I used to think that this was unique to me. If I could turn the clock back, I'd retain my foreskin. Hygiene and safe sex, I can handle.
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Rank: Elder Joined: 7/11/2012 Posts: 5,222
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Um Sayala wrote:Sure wrote:Um Sayala wrote:soberly speaking, I dot think God could have created part of the body that should not have a function.
When you mention that, I start wondering whether you went to school? What is the use of the Appendix in the diggestive system?What is the use of armpit hair? Do you want some more body organs that are useless? A man having nipples, for what? So, don't make assumptions yet. Actually, God even made a faulty architectural design for us women. He made the entertainment area right next door to the sewer. The fact that u or scientists do not know the function does not mean it has none. That's like insisting the world is flat, coz it could not be proved otherwise then. Again, that which u call sewer cd as well be somebody's entertainment area, so be careful buddy. Back to my quiz: I want my kofia back, madaktari tafadhalini?, ama mgomo yenu imeanza? LOL Appendix houses microbes... very important for the alimentary canal. New finding.
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Rank: Member Joined: 3/26/2012 Posts: 280
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For who cannot afford the paid cut. A church clinic at Doonholm next to Equity Bank offers it for free. DOH
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Rank: Elder Joined: 1/21/2010 Posts: 6,675 Location: Nairobi
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Christ was the Holy Spirit made flesh... If he was cut, every male follower of his MUST follow suit otherwise you are no Christian! Mark 12:29
Deuteronomy 4:16
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Rank: New-farer Joined: 3/10/2014 Posts: 78
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Amores wrote:more like ku-debate about dini. kukatwa ama kutokatwa ni mtu anafaa kuamua especially with this new information about lack of sensitivity hapo juu!!!!!!! ...yah, topic should be approached with sensitivity, at the end of it all, its a personal choice.
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Rank: Elder Joined: 10/4/2006 Posts: 13,821 Location: Nairobi
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guru267 wrote:Christ was the Holy Spirit made flesh... If he was cut, every male follower of his MUST follow suit otherwise you are no Christian! wewe.... i thought that in your book Christians follow Paul All Mushrooms are edible! Some Mushroom are only edible ONCE!
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Rank: Elder Joined: 7/1/2011 Posts: 8,804 Location: Nairobi
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Could it be that different cultures can have different scientific values? Yes. Different civilizations have (had) different scientific values.
So those who don't cut should be capable to keep their culture, even in the face of change. But the problem is, culture is fast transforming and science becoming a preserve of the few.
For example, what's the science of defining a society, setting it's rituals and rites? And powering it to it's objectives?
Why is it, that one should lose a part of the self upon initiation into adulthood? And could it be that now, for example, some wish to lose neither the skin nor the teeth? That is, there's no more initiation to adulthood? Is male circumcision in the city equally significant to that in the village?
Everything has happened too fast for us. 'To cut, or not to cut?' To cut and not to cut is the Just answer.
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Rank: Elder Joined: 7/11/2012 Posts: 5,222
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masukuma wrote:guru267 wrote:Christ was the Holy Spirit made flesh... If he was cut, every male follower of his MUST follow suit otherwise you are no Christian! wewe.... i thought that in your book Christians follow Paul In her eyes, a Christian, needs to be told how to be Christian, by her. Her brother says that, that Moha guy is the Holy Spirit that Jesus Christ said would come. Which makes me wonder, if you are busy telling someone how to be themselves, who is being you?
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Rank: New-farer Joined: 7/1/2013 Posts: 19
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my homescience teacher in primo taught me to keep food covered. Uncovered food attracts houseflies,mak-mendes etc etc. its a personal choice anyway...but you can disregard my homescience teachings at your own peril...;-) A fish is never thirsty......samaki hana kiu.
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Rank: Veteran Joined: 7/5/2010 Posts: 2,061 Location: Nairobi
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What is the fuss? If you are an adult and haven't been cut, its your choice to get cut or not. For some of us, it was a decision you made preteens just before Form One and asked your father to prep for the ceremony. If you were cut when you were a kid, accept it as one of the many things that your parents and/or society decided for you and move on. Otherwise why not start questioning why your folks enrolled you in school, or took you to church, had you baptised, do confirmation classes etc etc. A person can't live in a vacuum and the societal norms in play during the span of your life are going to affect you. I saw someone asking if the foreskin can be grown back, another expressing regret at loss of sensitivity.
We are acquiring this nauseous European habit of being too sensitive, treating things and ourselves like eggs that will break at any time. Thats why parents will not cane their kids, or let teachers do so, thinking mollycoddling them and cutting them off from their playstation will instill discipline. That is now 'abuse' in our currently thoroughly Westernised psyche. This same affliction now has grown men hemming and hawing about their foreskin -or lack thereof. Quit it now!!!! There are other serious problems worth worrying about. When did you all become such p !??
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Rank: Elder Joined: 12/17/2009 Posts: 3,583 Location: Kenya
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quicksand wrote:What is the fuss? If you are an adult and haven't been cut, its your choice to get cut or not. For some of us, it was a decision you made preteens just before Form One and asked your father to prep for the ceremony. If you were cut when you were a kid, accept it as one of the many things that your parents and/or society decided for you and move on. Otherwise why not start questioning why your folks enrolled you in school, or took you to church, had you baptised, do confirmation classes etc etc. A person can't live in a vacuum and the societal norms in play during the span of your life are going to affect you. I saw someone asking if the foreskin can be grown back, another expressing regret at loss of sensitivity.
We are acquiring this nauseous European habit of being too sensitive, treating things and ourselves like eggs that will break at any time. Thats why parents will not cane their kids, or let teachers do so, thinking mollycoddling them and cutting them off from their playstation will instill discipline. That is now 'abuse' in our currently thoroughly Westernised psyche. This same affliction now has grown men hemming and hawing about their foreskin -or lack thereof. Quit it now!!!! There are other serious problems worth worrying about. When did you all become such p !??  neno. True, almost all the cutting happens before the age of 18, and thats a decision that squarely falls in the parents (or whats left of parenting) domain.
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