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poundfoolish wrote:So now we can believe what Russia (army) says as gospel truth but avoid what the Western media says because their governments have lied to us before..
It is a good thing that stupidity is not infectious like a flu or TB.
but i must add it is contagious. Poundfoolish, no. Honestly you must admit its kind of getting hard to trust one side. Look at this article from the self same west - Germany's version of New York Times. Officials in Berlin were long in denial that their closest allies were spying on Germany. Now, ministries are undertaking measures to improve security and counterintelligence. They're anticipating frosty relations with the US for some time to come.At some point these all things have to start becoming recognizable enough to make one "insane" and "stupid".
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Rank: Elder Joined: 3/2/2007 Posts: 8,776 Location: Cameroon
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Until I see a proper rebuttal of the important questions raised by the Generals, my bias remains. Sat pictures show Buk Launchers with all missiles....immediately after the crash, the biased western media shows us the same launcher being moved in a government controlled territory, with missing missiles, and purports it to be in the hands of the rebels. Ok, maybe tunachechwa hapa, but the truth shall eventually pop out. This will make an interesting read in the coming days as more evidence unravels............but we all know the bonafide master of evil and deception, with a dirty history, motive and means. TULIA.........UFUNZWE!
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Rank: Elder Joined: 3/2/2007 Posts: 8,776 Location: Cameroon
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More confusion....... Quote:It is a good bet that the missile launcher with a missing missile is the one that hit the airliner in the tail. The USA thought it a great Chutzpah joke to show their launcher and blame it on Russia.
The Jet fighter seems to have finished off the airliner with a hit to the pilot's section of the plane.
Ground to air missile round projectiles pierced tail, and rod shaped projectiles pierce the front of the plane, so it is reported on PRAVDA RU, main forum, Russia Satellite photos, air traffic control data suggests a Ukrainian fighter jet could have shot down MH17. continued... Quote:...the cockpit was full of blood - covered in blood. Port side of the cockpit ... there is clear evidence of a missile strike.
... photos from journalists on the ground showing elongated shrapnel marks on the wing travelling in the direction of left to right.
... AA missile from aircraft has rod like shrapnel as opposed to the ball shrapnel of the BUK system.
... MH17 was hit by two AA missiles fired TO the Port side - the missile that hit the cockpit area, shredded the pilots and spread their blood all over the cockpit. In war, the first casualty is the truth. Chances are we will never get to know what actually happened! TULIA.........UFUNZWE!
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Rank: Elder Joined: 6/17/2008 Posts: 23,365 Location: Nairobi
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Impunity wrote:McReggae wrote:I still hold and believe that the rebels with the help of Russia brought down the plane but sometimes it's too much from the western media, mara castigating the rebels for being disrespectful by not loading the bodies of the victims into refrigerated trains, when the rebels did this by cutting some of the parts of the plane using powers saws as some of the bodies were wedged into the plane parts now the same western media complains about interference with the evidence. Of what use will it be for Russia to down a passenger aircraft? You should talk about separatists and not mention Russia in the same sentence please; it could have a mistake downing or intentional! I'm referring to helping a mjinga, simply Russia helped a mjinga who then acted like the wajinga they are!!! ..."Wewe ni mtu mdogo sana....na mwenye amekuandika pia ni mtu mdogo sana!".
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Rank: Elder Joined: 3/2/2009 Posts: 26,333 Location: Masada
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McReggae wrote:Impunity wrote:McReggae wrote:I still hold and believe that the rebels with the help of Russia brought down the plane but sometimes it's too much from the western media, mara castigating the rebels for being disrespectful by not loading the bodies of the victims into refrigerated trains, when the rebels did this by cutting some of the parts of the plane using powers saws as some of the bodies were wedged into the plane parts now the same western media complains about interference with the evidence. Of what use will it be for Russia to down a passenger aircraft? You should talk about separatists and not mention Russia in the same sentence please; it could have a mistake downing or intentional! I'm referring to helping a mjinga, simply Russia helped a mjinga who then acted like the wajinga they are!!! Russia could have trained the separatists on how to use the Buk-1 system but she (Russia) didnt not tell them to shoot down the civilian airliner, I hope hio ndio unamaanicha. Anybody else could have shot the airliner down, Ukraine, US,Airbus parent company, Israel,Singapore Air etal! Portfolio: Sold
You know you've made it when you get a parking space for your yatcht.
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Rank: Elder Joined: 3/2/2007 Posts: 8,776 Location: Cameroon
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  TULIA.........UFUNZWE!
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Rank: Elder Joined: 6/17/2008 Posts: 23,365 Location: Nairobi
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Impunity wrote:McReggae wrote:Impunity wrote:McReggae wrote:I still hold and believe that the rebels with the help of Russia brought down the plane but sometimes it's too much from the western media, mara castigating the rebels for being disrespectful by not loading the bodies of the victims into refrigerated trains, when the rebels did this by cutting some of the parts of the plane using powers saws as some of the bodies were wedged into the plane parts now the same western media complains about interference with the evidence. Of what use will it be for Russia to down a passenger aircraft? You should talk about separatists and not mention Russia in the same sentence please; it could have a mistake downing or intentional! I'm referring to helping a mjinga, simply Russia helped a mjinga who then acted like the wajinga they are!!! Russia could have trained the separatists on how to use the Buk-1 system but she (Russia) didnt not tell them to shoot down the civilian airliner, I hope hio ndio unamaanicha. Anybody else could have shot the airliner down, Ukraine, US,Airbus parent company, Israel,Singapore Air etal! To me even the rebels did not have a reason to shoot down a passenger plane, it was simply accidental, the fury against Russia is because everybody knows that they were rooting for the rebels and it was irresponsible to give such heavy machinery to rag tags who lack proper training ..."Wewe ni mtu mdogo sana....na mwenye amekuandika pia ni mtu mdogo sana!".
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Rank: Veteran Joined: 11/17/2009 Posts: 1,049
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poundfoolish wrote:So now we can believe what Russia (army) says as gospel truth but avoid what the Western media says because their governments have lied to us before..
It is a good thing that stupidity is not infectious like a flu or TB.
but i must add it is contagious. No, hapana, it's not that they are dump, it has to do with some briefing. Until the guy with a silver spoon details them differently, attempts at logical and level headed look at issues shall remain a long shot Just as absolute power corrupts leaders, so does absolute fanaticism blind the people from logic
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Rank: Veteran Joined: 11/17/2009 Posts: 1,049
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harrydre wrote:The war between rebels(read Putin) and Ukraine has very minimal effects (if any) on kasin Barry's (west) interests so I highly doubt he would go to the lengths of bringing down a passenger jet to push for a political agenda. In my very open minded view, this was an accidental downing of the plane by the rebels. I guess they didn't expect any passenger jets around there so any object was suspicious.
Of course! A no brainer actually! Just as absolute power corrupts leaders, so does absolute fanaticism blind the people from logic
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Rank: Elder Joined: 3/2/2007 Posts: 8,776 Location: Cameroon
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Two Ukrainian Su-25s downed near the Ukraine-Russia border. Pilots ejected safely.............was this an attempt to prove presence of the BUKs? TULIA.........UFUNZWE!
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