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Malaysian aircrash again!!!!!!!!!
Impunity
#141 Posted : Tuesday, July 22, 2014 9:27:41 AM
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murchr wrote:


I think the rebels have nothing to hide about this MH17 incidents....
d'oh!
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simonkabz
#142 Posted : Tuesday, July 22, 2014 9:47:23 AM
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Impunity wrote:
murchr wrote:


I think the rebels have nothing to hide about this MH17 incidents....
d'oh!


Possible. Nowadays it is so hard to fish out the truth about anything. We are living in a world of lies and deception. Nothing is what it seems any more.
TULIA.........UFUNZWE!
AlphDoti
#143 Posted : Tuesday, July 22, 2014 9:51:09 AM
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simonkabz wrote:
Impunity wrote:
murchr wrote:

I think the rebels have nothing to hide about this MH17 incidents....
d'oh!

Possible. Nowadays it is so hard to fish out the truth about anything. We are living in a world of lies and deception. Nothing is what it seems any more.

I agree with both of you. But there are some of us, learned people in Wazua, who don't see this even at this time and age. They don't believe there's deception, especially in political and power struggles.
Impunity
#144 Posted : Tuesday, July 22, 2014 10:17:59 AM
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AlphDoti wrote:
simonkabz wrote:
Impunity wrote:
murchr wrote:

I think the rebels have nothing to hide about this MH17 incidents....
d'oh!

Possible. Nowadays it is so hard to fish out the truth about anything. We are living in a world of lies and deception. Nothing is what it seems any more.

I agree with both of you. But there are some of us, learned people in Wazua, who don't see this even at this time and age. They don't believe there's deception, especially in political and power struggles.


I wont be surprised if its the US who orchestrated the downing of MH17.
Sad Sad Sad
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kripp
#145 Posted : Tuesday, July 22, 2014 1:42:11 PM
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Impunity wrote:
AlphDoti wrote:
simonkabz wrote:
Impunity wrote:
murchr wrote:

I think the rebels have nothing to hide about this MH17 incidents....
d'oh!

Possible. Nowadays it is so hard to fish out the truth about anything. We are living in a world of lies and deception. Nothing is what it seems any more.

I agree with both of you. But there are some of us, learned people in Wazua, who don't see this even at this time and age. They don't believe there's deception, especially in political and power struggles.


I wont be surprised if its the US who orchestrated the downing of MH17.
Sad Sad Sad

A critique of American propaganda on MH17 crash
AlphDoti
#146 Posted : Tuesday, July 22, 2014 2:12:49 PM
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kripp wrote:
Impunity wrote:
AlphDoti wrote:
simonkabz wrote:
Impunity wrote:
murchr wrote:

I think the rebels have nothing to hide about this MH17 incidents....
d'oh!

Possible. Nowadays it is so hard to fish out the truth about anything. We are living in a world of lies and deception. Nothing is what it seems any more.

I agree with both of you. But there are some of us, learned people in Wazua, who don't see this even at this time and age. They don't believe there's deception, especially in political and power struggles.

I wont be surprised if its the US who orchestrated the downing of MH17.
Sad Sad Sad

A critique of American propaganda on MH17 crash

@kripp from that I see two possibilities

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..and documentation that a Ukrainian SU-25 fighter jet rapidly approached the Malaysian airliner prior to its downing.

So this is one possibility.

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...at the moment of destruction of MH-17 an American satellite was flying over the area.

And this is another possibility. Do you remember the US opposing Korean launch of satellite project? If I'm not wrong, I remember the US saying Korea should not be trusted, they could be launching some weapon.

Is it also possible that some satellites are weapon loaded???? d'oh! Liar

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Putin’s call for an independent expert examination by ICAO does not sound like a person with anything to hide.

I'm not ruling out his involvement, but to me, it's very unlikely.
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Turning to Washington Putin stated: “In the meantime, no one [not even the “exceptional nation”] has the right to use this tragedy to achieve their narrowly selfish political goals.”

I agree with him.
murchr
#147 Posted : Tuesday, July 22, 2014 2:27:46 PM
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The propaganda by the western media on Russia and Putin is just amazing. They claim to have evidence yet they report that the rebels dont want anyone near the crash site. Bodies r being handled with disrespect, yada yada...now it has been proven that the recording was edited. Putins call for international investigations is not just for nothing, the man must be having hard evidence
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Impunity
#148 Posted : Tuesday, July 22, 2014 2:56:38 PM
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murchr wrote:
The propaganda by the western media on Russia and Putin is just amazing. They claim to have evidence yet they report that the rebels dont want anyone near the crash site. Bodies r being handled with disrespect, yada yada...now it has been proven that the recording was edited. Putins call for international investigations is not just for nothing, the man must be having hard evidence


So how fast the rebels handed over the Orange boxes...Dont trust hawa akina @kiash.
@Putin is always very sober even in turbulence.
This plane was downed by Ukraine "mungikis" under the watchful eyes of one @Barack.
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harrydre
#149 Posted : Tuesday, July 22, 2014 3:24:50 PM
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Damn!!! This world is messed up!
i.am.back!!!!
Kratos
#150 Posted : Tuesday, July 22, 2014 3:25:01 PM
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Russian air force chief Lt. Gen. Igor Makushevsaid that Russian radar had spotted a second aircraft in the ill-fated airliner's vicinity just before the crash and that it was likely a Ukrainian fighter jet. A graphic that Gen. Makushev said was based on radar data depicted four commercial planes in the area shortly before the crash, as well as the alleged Ukrainian fighter jet


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U.S. officials dismissed the Russian government's claim that a second plane was present when Malaysia Airlines Flight 17 was shot down last week as "desperate" propaganda.

U.S. officials didn't provide their own evidence to back their arguments
. But they pointed to Ukraine's statements Monday that the country's fighter jets were on the ground at the time of the crash.


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Gen. Makushev said that Russian radars could only spot the aircraft at the point of its ascension because the on-duty radars only detected objects at above 5,000 meters. Russian radars spotted the unidentified plane patrolling in the vicinity of Flight 17, "controlling the development of the situation," he said.

The defense ministry also said it registered the Su-25 fighter jet ascending within close range of several civil aircrafts, including the Malaysia Airlines jet.

Another top military official, Lt. Gen. Andrei Kartapolov, said at the same news conference that the jet came as close as 1.8 miles to Flight 17, which is well within the range of the air-to-air missiles it is usually equipped with.


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He said Russia is prepared to hand all of the information it has to the European authorities, which included satellite imagery and data from its own radar.

Russian defense ministry officials also claimed that a U.S. satellite was spotted at the time of the Flight 17 crash and asked that the U.S. release the satellite images from that time. The U.S. didn't immediately comment on the claim


Source: Wall Street Journal

“People will believe a big lie sooner than a little one, and if you repeat it frequently enough, people will sooner or later believe it.” ― Walter C. Langer
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