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ecstacy wrote:ecstacy wrote:ecstacy wrote:ecstacy wrote:Posting without a wider assessment of facts is evident from quite a few here.
Other than this area being under the firm control of the pro-Russian forces the following is compelling not speculative:
1. The leader of the pro-Russian separatist movement on his Russian version of twitter boasted about his troops having brought down "another [Ukrainian] bird" just to immediately pull it down when they realised it was a passenger jet. Lucky enough, screen shots were taken by readers for posterity and investigative purposes.
Igor Strelkov – also known as Igor Girkin – the leader of the pro-Russian separatists fighting the Ukrainian government forces for control of eastern Ukraine, used his page on the social networking site Vkontakte to boast that his men had just shot down an aircraft. In a message posted at 2.50 p.m. BST, he wrote: “In the district of Torez an An-26 was just shot down. It crashed somewhere near the Progress mine.
“We warned them not to fly in ‘our skies.’ Here is video confirmation of the latest ‘fallen bird.’ The bird landed outside the residential zone, no peaceful civilians were injured.”
His post was accompanied by a video of a plume of black smoke rising from the ground, one of several videos that were posted online within two hours of MH17 going missing. It quickly became clear that an aircraft had indeed come down near the village of Grabovo in the Torez area, 25 miles from the Russian border, but the wreckage bore the distinctive white, red and blue livery of Malaysian Airlines.
2. The Ukrainian intelligence forces intercepted comms between two senior pro-Russian separatist movement leaders and played it for global media to make their own assessment. The chaps talking quite clearly about their men taking down this passenger jet.
3. Multiple and independent reports and pictures of SAM Russian missiles in the area in recent days.
4. 2 Ukrainian planes shot down in recent days at 5KM altitude.
What else do you want?
The above against speculation that:
1. Ukraine wanted to shoot down "Putin's" plane and risk all out war with a major global nuclear power so as "to get attention" and "the world behind them"..
Sometimes for some even if the truth stood right infront of them, they would deny it. The circumstantial evidence above is being presented at the UN by the US & UK ambassadors as we speak, with calls for a full, inclusive and unfettered investigation. The Ukranian counter intelligence unit in an ongoing press conference have provided dated graphic evidence of BUK missile vehicle with 4 missiles and later in the day with within the same timespan for the incident, the same BUK vehicle with only 3 missiles.. Reports that the pro-Russian rebels are having a press conference saying the Blackbox has gone missing!! 
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Rank: Veteran Joined: 4/1/2009 Posts: 1,885
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Impunity wrote:maka wrote:mkenyan wrote:Dr. Dre wrote:An interesting development: Vladmir Putin landed in Moscow an hour ago, back from his South American trip. According to reports, the Russian President's plane flew almost on the same route the Malaysia Airlines plane took. Both planes flew on the same corridor 40 minutes apart from each other. European and Russian media are now asking if the Vladimir Putin's plane was the intended target of this missile strike. Russian and Malaysian colors look alike. And on a plane it is difficult to make any difference from afar.... Who is behind this accident? so from 30k feet they could tell the signage on the plane? wacheni ujinga!! Was also wondering. Its possible using goggles aka telescope, kuweni na some basic engineering skills. yeah sure. goggles or telescope that are so powerful enough to see the signage on the plane 30k feet up but not yet enough to tell that it is malaysian airline. do you at times think things through before you post them? or that is a side effect of getting a fast class in engineering? maybe you should have done post-graduate diploma in intelligence.
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Rank: Elder Joined: 3/2/2009 Posts: 26,333 Location: Masada
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mkenyan wrote:Impunity wrote:maka wrote:mkenyan wrote:Dr. Dre wrote:An interesting development: Vladmir Putin landed in Moscow an hour ago, back from his South American trip. According to reports, the Russian President's plane flew almost on the same route the Malaysia Airlines plane took. Both planes flew on the same corridor 40 minutes apart from each other. European and Russian media are now asking if the Vladimir Putin's plane was the intended target of this missile strike. Russian and Malaysian colors look alike. And on a plane it is difficult to make any difference from afar.... Who is behind this accident? so from 30k feet they could tell the signage on the plane? wacheni ujinga!! Was also wondering. Its possible using goggles aka telescope, kuweni na some basic engineering skills. yeah sure. goggles or telescope that are so powerful enough to see the signage on the plane 30k feet up but not yet enough to tell that it is malaysian airline. do you at times think things through before you post them? or that is a side effect of getting a fast class in engineering? maybe you should have done post-graduate diploma in intelligence. Wacha kutumia uji baridi in place of ubongo and understand the question asked by @dre up there. Portfolio: Sold
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Rank: Elder Joined: 7/10/2008 Posts: 9,131 Location: Kanjo
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ecstacy wrote:It is confirmed 'we' lost two partners on that flight. It is really, really sad. We? As in who? What partners? i.am.back!!!!
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Rank: Elder Joined: 2/26/2008 Posts: 4,449
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harrydre wrote:ecstacy wrote:It is confirmed 'we' lost two partners on that flight. It is really, really sad. We? As in who? What partners? Work colleagues. Big loss for academia.
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Rank: Elder Joined: 2/26/2008 Posts: 4,449
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ecstacy wrote:ecstacy wrote:ecstacy wrote:ecstacy wrote:ecstacy wrote:Posting without a wider assessment of facts is evident from quite a few here.
Other than this area being under the firm control of the pro-Russian forces the following is compelling not speculative:
1. The leader of the pro-Russian separatist movement on his Russian version of twitter boasted about his troops having brought down "another [Ukrainian] bird" just to immediately pull it down when they realised it was a passenger jet. Lucky enough, screen shots were taken by readers for posterity and investigative purposes.
Igor Strelkov – also known as Igor Girkin – the leader of the pro-Russian separatists fighting the Ukrainian government forces for control of eastern Ukraine, used his page on the social networking site Vkontakte to boast that his men had just shot down an aircraft. In a message posted at 2.50 p.m. BST, he wrote: “In the district of Torez an An-26 was just shot down. It crashed somewhere near the Progress mine.
“We warned them not to fly in ‘our skies.’ Here is video confirmation of the latest ‘fallen bird.’ The bird landed outside the residential zone, no peaceful civilians were injured.”
His post was accompanied by a video of a plume of black smoke rising from the ground, one of several videos that were posted online within two hours of MH17 going missing. It quickly became clear that an aircraft had indeed come down near the village of Grabovo in the Torez area, 25 miles from the Russian border, but the wreckage bore the distinctive white, red and blue livery of Malaysian Airlines.
2. The Ukrainian intelligence forces intercepted comms between two senior pro-Russian separatist movement leaders and played it for global media to make their own assessment. The chaps talking quite clearly about their men taking down this passenger jet.
3. Multiple and independent reports and pictures of SAM Russian missiles in the area in recent days.
4. 2 Ukrainian planes shot down in recent days at 5KM altitude.
What else do you want?
The above against speculation that:
1. Ukraine wanted to shoot down "Putin's" plane and risk all out war with a major global nuclear power so as "to get attention" and "the world behind them"..
Sometimes for some even if the truth stood right infront of them, they would deny it. The circumstantial evidence above is being presented at the UN by the US & UK ambassadors as we speak, with calls for a full, inclusive and unfettered investigation. The Ukranian counter intelligence unit in an ongoing press conference have provided dated graphic evidence of BUK missile vehicle with 4 missiles and later in the day with within the same timespan for the incident, the same BUK vehicle with only 3 missiles.. Reports that the pro-Russian rebels are having a press conference saying the Blackbox has gone missing!! OSEC members being denied unfettered access to the crash site. They were later driven off by gunfire. Further reports of pro-Russia rebels tampering with the crash site. Seriously..
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Rank: Elder Joined: 7/10/2008 Posts: 9,131 Location: Kanjo
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ecstacy wrote:harrydre wrote:ecstacy wrote:It is confirmed 'we' lost two partners on that flight. It is really, really sad. We? As in who? What partners? Work colleagues. Big loss for academia. Poleni! i.am.back!!!!
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Rank: Elder Joined: 2/26/2012 Posts: 15,980
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^^^^^ Relax, This kind of evidence cannot be destroyed there are so many dynamics in play eg the trajectory of the missile. Russia has asked for an international team to investigate this, wait more will unfold with time. "There are only two emotions in the market, hope & fear. The problem is you hope when you should fear & fear when you should hope: - Jesse Livermore
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Rank: Elder Joined: 2/26/2008 Posts: 4,449
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harrydre wrote:ecstacy wrote:harrydre wrote:ecstacy wrote:It is confirmed 'we' lost two partners on that flight. It is really, really sad. We? As in who? What partners? Work colleagues. Big loss for academia. Poleni! Senseless loss man. Thanks mister.
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Rank: Veteran Joined: 4/1/2009 Posts: 1,885
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Impunity wrote:mkenyan wrote:Impunity wrote:maka wrote:mkenyan wrote:Dr. Dre wrote:An interesting development: Vladmir Putin landed in Moscow an hour ago, back from his South American trip. According to reports, the Russian President's plane flew almost on the same route the Malaysia Airlines plane took. Both planes flew on the same corridor 40 minutes apart from each other. European and Russian media are now asking if the Vladimir Putin's plane was the intended target of this missile strike. Russian and Malaysian colors look alike. And on a plane it is difficult to make any difference from afar.... Who is behind this accident? so from 30k feet they could tell the signage on the plane? wacheni ujinga!! Was also wondering. Its possible using goggles aka telescope, kuweni na some basic engineering skills. yeah sure. goggles or telescope that are so powerful enough to see the signage on the plane 30k feet up but not yet enough to tell that it is malaysian airline. do you at times think things through before you post them? or that is a side effect of getting a fast class in engineering? maybe you should have done post-graduate diploma in intelligence. Wacha kutumia uji baridi in place of ubongo and understand the question asked by @dre up there. not surprising that comprehension is also a problem for you. keep on fast class internet engineer.
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