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Wakanyugi wrote:tycho wrote:Wakanyugi, to name everything you must be God. That's why Man, being a namer of everything, is a reflection of God. But if we look at human history, we see an evolving Man. Does this point to an evolving God?
So the question of naming everything involves Man and God evolving at the same rate. Meaning? Human psychology transforming to God psychology. Then God psychology 'reigning'. Singularity. Silence.
Tycho: the above two paragraphs, I think, capture the problem perfectly:
"...to name everything you must be God."But of course. How can you not be God (as well as all else that is). What else could you possibly be? "So the question of naming everything involves Man and God evolving at the same rate. "Hello! Are you implying that man and God are separate? Haven't we covered this ground already? There is no separation.So you, the God-being have taken a side trip to Earth, to practice human-being. What is wrong with that? I suspect the reason we default so often to separation, and to a demeaning perspective of ourselves, is not so much socialization as fear. Fear that if we claim our Godness, somehow, 'god' or the Priest or Sheikh or whoever, will strike us down. This is the oldest manipulation script in the book. How sad. The 'illusion' of seperation arise due difference in topologies and boundary definitions. Scripts are attempts at understanding connections. It's a question of cognitive development. For example, some clergymen are calling for the embrace of 'assisted dying', others would call for natural death. But thanks to tool advancement we can have 'assisted living' where one lives for as long as he/she may wish.
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Rank: Elder Joined: 7/1/2011 Posts: 8,804 Location: Nairobi
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Muriel wrote:
I can only look on with longing from the sidelines.
How I wish I too had someone to agree with on topics of interest as thunderously as my brothers are doing above.
CLK disappeared ,,,,, Mtu Biz mteja ,,,, D32 football ,,,,, Coolio Somalia ,,,
Sigh ,,,,
Try to be a real renegade. Chart your path! It's for the good of all.
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tycho wrote:Wakanyugi wrote:tycho wrote:Wakanyugi, to name everything you must be God. That's why Man, being a namer of everything, is a reflection of God. But if we look at human history, we see an evolving Man. Does this point to an evolving God?
So the question of naming everything involves Man and God evolving at the same rate. Meaning? Human psychology transforming to God psychology. Then God psychology 'reigning'. Singularity. Silence.
Tycho: the above two paragraphs, I think, capture the problem perfectly:
"...to name everything you must be God."But of course. How can you not be God (as well as all else that is). What else could you possibly be? "So the question of naming everything involves Man and God evolving at the same rate. "Hello! Are you implying that man and God are separate? Haven't we covered this ground already? There is no separation.So you, the God-being have taken a side trip to Earth, to practice human-being. What is wrong with that? I suspect the reason we default so often to separation, and to a demeaning perspective of ourselves, is not so much socialization as fear. Fear that if we claim our Godness, somehow, 'god' or the Priest or Sheikh or whoever, will strike us down. This is the oldest manipulation script in the book. How sad. The 'illusion' of seperation arise due difference in topologies and boundary definitions. Scripts are attempts at understanding connections. It's a question of cognitive development. I understand, Tycho. But I hope you understand too when/why I am impatient sometimes...especially with people who already know this stuff intuitively but lose trust in themselves. Topology, boundaries, scripts, all these are manufactured templates that we use to try and squeeze the enormity of Unity into 3D. Like trying to fit the Ocean into a soda bottle, it can't be done. "The opposite of a correct statement is a false statement. But the opposite of a profound truth may well be another profound truth." (Niels Bohr)
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Rank: Veteran Joined: 7/3/2007 Posts: 1,635
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tycho wrote:Muriel wrote:
I can only look on with longing from the sidelines.
How I wish I too had someone to agree with on topics of interest as thunderously as my brothers are doing above.
CLK disappeared ,,,,, Mtu Biz mteja ,,,, D32 football ,,,,, Coolio Somalia ,,,
Sigh ,,,,
Try to be a real renegade. Chart your path! It's for the good of all. My dear Muriel: Welcome to the World of the real. All you have to do is swallow the blue pill  "The opposite of a correct statement is a false statement. But the opposite of a profound truth may well be another profound truth." (Niels Bohr)
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Rank: Member Joined: 11/19/2009 Posts: 3,142
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tycho wrote:
Try to be a real renegade. Chart your path! It's for the good of all.
Yeah yeah yeah ,,, You are enjoying this, aren't you? That's for sure! Rejoice not yet against me o my brother! The renegade has not yet surrendered! The red pill or the blue pill? The blue pill ,,,, I will believe whatever I want to believe. The red pill ,,,, I find out how deep the consciousness-rabbit-hole is. Decisions! Decisions! Renegadeness will decide!
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Rank: Elder Joined: 7/1/2011 Posts: 8,804 Location: Nairobi
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What's this illusion we're talking about? The illusion is, the two are, and, are not one. The non-illusion is, the two are, and are one.
That way, there can be a signifier and signified. A condition for singularity. Hence a journey. 'Evolution'.
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Rank: Elder Joined: 7/1/2011 Posts: 8,804 Location: Nairobi
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Muriel wrote:tycho wrote:
Try to be a real renegade. Chart your path! It's for the good of all.
Yeah yeah yeah ,,, You are enjoying this, aren't you? That's for sure! Rejoice not yet against me o my brother! The renegade has not yet surrendered! The red pill or the blue pill? The blue pill ,,,, I will believe whatever I want to believe. The red pill ,,,, I find out how deep the consciousness-rabbit-hole is. Decisions! Decisions! Renegadeness will decide! What's there to rejoice about, Muriel?
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Rank: Member Joined: 11/19/2009 Posts: 3,142
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The loneliness of the renegade?
The dilemma of the renegade?
What exactly is there to rejoice about, brother?
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Rank: Elder Joined: 7/1/2011 Posts: 8,804 Location: Nairobi
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Muriel wrote:
The loneliness of the renegade?
The dilemma of the renegade?
What exactly is there to rejoice about, brother?
I rejoice at the inner working, and the perfect reflection of the Self, in your self. That's my joy. And loneliness, and 'dilemmas' are most welcome. They are food to the soul.
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Rank: Veteran Joined: 7/3/2007 Posts: 1,635
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tycho wrote:What's this illusion we're talking about? The illusion is, the two are, and, are not one. The non-illusion is, the two are, and are one.
That way, there can be a signifier and signified. A condition for singularity. Hence a journey. 'Evolution'. Are you talking to me? "The opposite of a correct statement is a false statement. But the opposite of a profound truth may well be another profound truth." (Niels Bohr)
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