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tycho
#141 Posted : Thursday, July 17, 2014 3:05:22 PM
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Muriel wrote:

I have tried to introduce Keanu Reeves's Matrix movie into this discussion of networking for the specific reason it dealt with the illusory human perception of reality which is based on the habitual day to day choices people make in the world they live in and the need to break free from "this" world and make new choices.


I am saddened that my spark has not kindled any fire.

Ah!

So I will let it be.


This is a common network problem.
Muriel
#142 Posted : Thursday, July 17, 2014 3:45:16 PM
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tycho wrote:
Muriel wrote:

I have tried to introduce Keanu Reeves's Matrix movie into this discussion of networking for the specific reason it dealt with the illusory human perception of reality which is based on the habitual day to day choices people make in the world they live in and the need to break free from "this" world and make new choices.


I am saddened that my spark has not kindled any fire.

Ah!

So I will let it be.


This is a common network problem.


It seems so.
tycho
#143 Posted : Thursday, July 17, 2014 3:48:18 PM
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Muriel wrote:
tycho wrote:
Muriel wrote:

I have tried to introduce Keanu Reeves's Matrix movie into this discussion of networking for the specific reason it dealt with the illusory human perception of reality which is based on the habitual day to day choices people make in the world they live in and the need to break free from "this" world and make new choices.


I am saddened that my spark has not kindled any fire.

Ah!

So I will let it be.


This is a common network problem.


It seems so.


How would you describe the problem?
Muriel
#144 Posted : Thursday, July 17, 2014 3:52:16 PM
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Reluctance to "know". Seeing that it is about "knowing". Networking.
Wakanyugi
#145 Posted : Thursday, July 17, 2014 3:56:08 PM
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Muriel wrote:

I have tried to introduce Keanu Reeves's Matrix movie into this discussion of networking for the specific reason it dealt with the illusory human perception of reality which is based on the habitual day to day choices people make in the world they live in and the need to break free from "this" world and make new choices.


I am saddened that my spark has not kindled any fire.


Don't be sad. I introduced the Holographic theory partly in response to your early reference to 'The Matrix.'

The Wachovya brothers partly based their film plot on this theory and of course science fiction. But the point is the same: the world we see is not real. It is a hologram, an illusion, projected by a 'master programmer.' Our senses cheat us that it is real.

Of course Hollywood needs excitement so they had to have kick ass fight sequences; a bunch of villains and a love interest to spice things up.

The simple fact is you are the Master programmer; the software is 'Consciousness' and the hardware is the Singularity.
"The opposite of a correct statement is a false statement. But the opposite of a profound truth may well be another profound truth." (Niels Bohr)
tycho
#146 Posted : Thursday, July 17, 2014 3:56:42 PM
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Muriel wrote:
Reluctance to "know". Seeing that it is about "knowing". Networking.


What could account for this 'reluctance'?
Muriel
#147 Posted : Thursday, July 17, 2014 4:05:39 PM
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Wakanyugi wrote:
Muriel wrote:

I have tried to introduce Keanu Reeves's Matrix movie into this discussion of networking for the specific reason it dealt with the illusory human perception of reality which is based on the habitual day to day choices people make in the world they live in and the need to break free from "this" world and make new choices.


I am saddened that my spark has not kindled any fire.


Don't be sad. I introduced the Holographic theory partly in response to your early reference to 'The Matrix.'

The Wachovya brothers partly based their film plot on this theory and of course science fiction. But the point is the same: the world we see is not real. It is a hologram, an illusion, projected by a 'master programmer.' Our senses cheat us that it is real.

Of course Hollywood needs excitement so they had to have kick ass fight sequences; a bunch of villains and a love interest to spice things up.

The simple fact is you are the Master programmer; the software is 'Consciousness' and the hardware is the Singularity.


It was a favourite film and I watched, nay, studied it several times over.

On the face of it, it is about escaping the realm to attain higher status. I agree about your observations about it though I don't agree with it.

Inside out, upside down, black is white.
Muriel
#148 Posted : Thursday, July 17, 2014 4:07:24 PM
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tycho wrote:

What could account for this 'reluctance'?


Ignorance.
tycho
#149 Posted : Thursday, July 17, 2014 4:10:55 PM
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Muriel wrote:
tycho wrote:

What could account for this 'reluctance'?


Ignorance.


What kind of 'control' does your answer imply?
Muriel
#150 Posted : Thursday, July 17, 2014 4:15:55 PM
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I do not understand what you are asking. Kindly rephrase.
Swenani
#151 Posted : Thursday, July 17, 2014 4:31:03 PM
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Muriel
#152 Posted : Thursday, July 17, 2014 4:34:41 PM
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Swenani,

How pleasant it is to see you!

Nice read!
tycho
#153 Posted : Thursday, July 17, 2014 4:46:59 PM
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Muriel wrote:


I do not understand what you are asking. Kindly rephrase.


In 'this' network, how are ignorance and knowledge distributed, and how and by whom or what, is this distribution and flow regulated?
Muriel
#154 Posted : Thursday, July 17, 2014 4:52:46 PM
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tycho wrote:
Muriel wrote:


I do not understand what you are asking. Kindly rephrase.


In 'this' network, how are ignorance and knowledge distributed, and how and by whom or what, is this distribution and flow regulated?


A 'cluster bomb' question! thence I did not understand it!

First are we talking about the same network? The 'this' network.

tycho
#155 Posted : Thursday, July 17, 2014 5:15:25 PM
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The writer wants a better Facebook. Why?

Isn't it reasonable that the users need to play a positive role in creating a better Facebook? How is responsibility and power distributed in a network?

Do users have adequate digital and cultural education to use such networks? Surely, expecting a network to be about the simple functions like meeting lost friends, the network provides infinite opportunity for infinite activities.

How do we find a balance?
tycho
#156 Posted : Thursday, July 17, 2014 5:19:13 PM
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Muriel wrote:
tycho wrote:
Muriel wrote:


I do not understand what you are asking. Kindly rephrase.


In 'this' network, how are ignorance and knowledge distributed, and how and by whom or what, is this distribution and flow regulated?


A 'cluster bomb' question! thence I did not understand it!

First are we talking about the same network? The 'this' network.



Could we be talking of different networks?



symbols
#157 Posted : Thursday, July 17, 2014 6:13:51 PM
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symbols
#158 Posted : Thursday, July 17, 2014 6:23:59 PM
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tycho
#159 Posted : Thursday, July 17, 2014 7:01:26 PM
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Wakanyugi
#160 Posted : Thursday, July 17, 2014 11:31:53 PM
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Muriel wrote:
Wakanyugi wrote:
Muriel wrote:

I have tried to introduce Keanu Reeves's Matrix movie into this discussion of networking for the specific reason it dealt with the illusory human perception of reality which is based on the habitual day to day choices people make in the world they live in and the need to break free from "this" world and make new choices.


I am saddened that my spark has not kindled any fire.


Don't be sad. I introduced the Holographic theory partly in response to your early reference to 'The Matrix.'

The Wachovya brothers partly based their film plot on this theory and of course science fiction. But the point is the same: the world we see is not real. It is a hologram, an illusion, projected by a 'master programmer.' Our senses cheat us that it is real.

Of course Hollywood needs excitement so they had to have kick ass fight sequences; a bunch of villains and a love interest to spice things up.

The simple fact is you are the Master programmer; the software is 'Consciousness' and the hardware is the Singularity.


It was a favourite film and I watched, nay, studied it several times over.

On the face of it, it is about escaping the realm to attain higher status. I agree about your observations about it though I don't agree with it.


What is it you don't agree with?


"The opposite of a correct statement is a false statement. But the opposite of a profound truth may well be another profound truth." (Niels Bohr)
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