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The Revolution of Consciusness
symbols
#51 Posted : Sunday, July 13, 2014 3:19:29 PM
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tycho wrote:
symbols wrote:
tycho wrote:
Rock, plastic chair, marbles, humans, robots, corpses, . . . all things are alive, and intelligent. That's the new world order.

The Revolution of consciousness. The demand for a new answer; what's the meaning of humanity?

What difference does it make?


'It?' It makes a difference in how life proceeds. It facilitates survival.


There is nowhere or nothing to proceed to.Survival is also an illusion since we're all 'one'.Anything goes.It's self-defeating.
tycho
#52 Posted : Sunday, July 13, 2014 3:35:04 PM
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symbols wrote:
tycho wrote:
symbols wrote:
tycho wrote:
Rock, plastic chair, marbles, humans, robots, corpses, . . . all things are alive, and intelligent. That's the new world order.

The Revolution of consciousness. The demand for a new answer; what's the meaning of humanity?

What difference does it make?


'It?' It makes a difference in how life proceeds. It facilitates survival.


There is nowhere or nothing to proceed to.Survival is also an illusion since we're all 'one'.Anything goes.It's self-defeating.


Not true. You must first understand what it means to be human.

Go to the tenth millennium bce, what was Man doing? On cave walls he drew his thoughts. What kind of thoughts? Outward events.

Now, many years later, Man is expressing himself on digital walls. What is he talking about? His inner self.
symbols
#53 Posted : Sunday, July 13, 2014 3:48:01 PM
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tycho wrote:
symbols wrote:
tycho wrote:
symbols wrote:
tycho wrote:
Rock, plastic chair, marbles, humans, robots, corpses, . . . all things are alive, and intelligent. That's the new world order.

The Revolution of consciousness. The demand for a new answer; what's the meaning of humanity?

What difference does it make?


'It?' It makes a difference in how life proceeds. It facilitates survival.


There is nowhere or nothing to proceed to.Survival is also an illusion since we're all 'one'.Anything goes.It's self-defeating.


Not true. You must first understand what it means to be human.

Go to the tenth millennium bce, what was Man doing? On cave walls he drew his thoughts. What kind of thoughts? Outward events.

Now, many years later, Man is expressing himself on digital walls. What is he talking about? His inner self.

What do you mean 'not true'? Duality is an illusion.Progress,time and regression are illusions.Inwards,outwards and balance are illusions.Good and bad are also illusions and just as valid.Any meaning is valid.
Muriel
#54 Posted : Sunday, July 13, 2014 3:56:54 PM
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Tycho. Consciousness is not shared because there is availability of diversity of opinion, belief, orientation, attitude, and thought. All these divisions are incompatible and mutually exclusive with a singular universal consciousness. That a single unit of consciousness can transit from one division to another yes even extremes is not indicative of continuity of consciousness but rather the possibility of divergence. Separateneness.
tycho
#55 Posted : Sunday, July 13, 2014 3:59:40 PM
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symbols wrote:
tycho wrote:
symbols wrote:
tycho wrote:
symbols wrote:
tycho wrote:
Rock, plastic chair, marbles, humans, robots, corpses, . . . all things are alive, and intelligent. That's the new world order.

The Revolution of consciousness. The demand for a new answer; what's the meaning of humanity?

What difference does it make?


'It?' It makes a difference in how life proceeds. It facilitates survival.


There is nowhere or nothing to proceed to.Survival is also an illusion since we're all 'one'.Anything goes.It's self-defeating.


Not true. You must first understand what it means to be human.

Go to the tenth millennium bce, what was Man doing? On cave walls he drew his thoughts. What kind of thoughts? Outward events.

Now, many years later, Man is expressing himself on digital walls. What is he talking about? His inner self.

What do you mean 'not true'? Duality is an illusion.Progress,time and regression are illusions.Inwards,outwards and balance are illusions.Good and bad are also illusions and just as valid.Any meaning is valid.


On the cave walls, 'duality'. On this post, 'singularity'. You will speak and act because both are true. That's why 'It' makes a difference. Illusion and not illusion. Question: If all were illusion would there be conversation?
tycho
#56 Posted : Sunday, July 13, 2014 4:04:08 PM
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Muriel wrote:
Tycho. Consciousness is not shared because there is availability of diversity of opinion, belief, orientation, attitude, and thought. All these divisions are incompatible and mutually exclusive with a singular universal consciousness. That a single unit of consciousness can transit from one division to another yes even extremes is not indicative of continuity of consciousness but rather the possibility of divergence. Separateneness.


Diversity doesn't necessarily mean lack of a shared domain. Look at bees, ants, swarms.
symbols
#57 Posted : Sunday, July 13, 2014 4:12:05 PM
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tycho wrote:
symbols wrote:
tycho wrote:
symbols wrote:
tycho wrote:
symbols wrote:
tycho wrote:
Rock, plastic chair, marbles, humans, robots, corpses, . . . all things are alive, and intelligent. That's the new world order.

The Revolution of consciousness. The demand for a new answer; what's the meaning of humanity?

What difference does it make?


'It?' It makes a difference in how life proceeds. It facilitates survival.


There is nowhere or nothing to proceed to.Survival is also an illusion since we're all 'one'.Anything goes.It's self-defeating.


Not true. You must first understand what it means to be human.

Go to the tenth millennium bce, what was Man doing? On cave walls he drew his thoughts. What kind of thoughts? Outward events.

Now, many years later, Man is expressing himself on digital walls. What is he talking about? His inner self.

What do you mean 'not true'? Duality is an illusion.Progress,time and regression are illusions.Inwards,outwards and balance are illusions.Good and bad are also illusions and just as valid.Any meaning is valid.


On the cave walls, 'duality'. On this post, 'singularity'. You will speak and act because both are true. That's why 'It' makes a difference. Illusion and not illusion. Question: If all were illusion would there be conversation?


There is no difference to be made.It's a zero-sum game within the 'It'.
tycho
#58 Posted : Sunday, July 13, 2014 5:19:07 PM
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symbols wrote:
tycho wrote:
symbols wrote:
tycho wrote:
symbols wrote:
tycho wrote:
symbols wrote:
tycho wrote:
Rock, plastic chair, marbles, humans, robots, corpses, . . . all things are alive, and intelligent. That's the new world order.

The Revolution of consciousness. The demand for a new answer; what's the meaning of humanity?

What difference does it make?


'It?' It makes a difference in how life proceeds. It facilitates survival.


There is nowhere or nothing to proceed to.Survival is also an illusion since we're all 'one'.Anything goes.It's self-defeating.


Not true. You must first understand what it means to be human.

Go to the tenth millennium bce, what was Man doing? On cave walls he drew his thoughts. What kind of thoughts? Outward events.

Now, many years later, Man is expressing himself on digital walls. What is he talking about? His inner self.

What do you mean 'not true'? Duality is an illusion.Progress,time and regression are illusions.Inwards,outwards and balance are illusions.Good and bad are also illusions and just as valid.Any meaning is valid.


On the cave walls, 'duality'. On this post, 'singularity'. You will speak and act because both are true. That's why 'It' makes a difference. Illusion and not illusion. Question: If all were illusion would there be conversation?


There is no difference to be made.It's a zero-sum game within the 'It'.


'I am' is a non-zero sum game. Language for example. It's always producing new words.
symbols
#59 Posted : Sunday, July 13, 2014 6:22:23 PM
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Joined: 3/19/2013
Posts: 2,552
tycho wrote:
symbols wrote:
tycho wrote:
symbols wrote:
tycho wrote:
symbols wrote:
tycho wrote:
symbols wrote:
tycho wrote:
Rock, plastic chair, marbles, humans, robots, corpses, . . . all things are alive, and intelligent. That's the new world order.

The Revolution of consciousness. The demand for a new answer; what's the meaning of humanity?

What difference does it make?


'It?' It makes a difference in how life proceeds. It facilitates survival.


There is nowhere or nothing to proceed to.Survival is also an illusion since we're all 'one'.Anything goes.It's self-defeating.


Not true. You must first understand what it means to be human.

Go to the tenth millennium bce, what was Man doing? On cave walls he drew his thoughts. What kind of thoughts? Outward events.

Now, many years later, Man is expressing himself on digital walls. What is he talking about? His inner self.

What do you mean 'not true'? Duality is an illusion.Progress,time and regression are illusions.Inwards,outwards and balance are illusions.Good and bad are also illusions and just as valid.Any meaning is valid.


On the cave walls, 'duality'. On this post, 'singularity'. You will speak and act because both are true. That's why 'It' makes a difference. Illusion and not illusion. Question: If all were illusion would there be conversation?


There is no difference to be made.It's a zero-sum game within the 'It'.


'I am' is a non-zero sum game. Language for example. It's always producing new words.

The 'I am' you speak of is zero-sum.Using language as an example,there are no new or old words since they are already part of the one.

Both our views are acceptable since what you are saying is that we are the 'one'.There is no right or wrong answer.
tycho
#60 Posted : Sunday, July 13, 2014 8:47:59 PM
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@symbols, language has more than words. There's also meaning. The words may not be new, but meaning is always created.

So language has both zero sum and non-zero sum elements in constant engagement.

'I am' is the signifier. The Creator of meaning. 'It', is the signified; the zero sum.

That's the only condition for saying, 'correct' and 'not correct'.

Revolution of consciousness is the awareness of the dialectic of 'I am it'. It's the difference between writing now, and our ancestor's drawings on the caves.

And the dialectic between 'I am' and 'It' is the spark of creation. The source of difference and unity.
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