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tycho
#21 Posted : Thursday, July 10, 2014 4:44:51 PM
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symbols wrote:
tycho wrote:
symbols wrote:
I thought you were talking about the objectives of the program.

Why define it as a super mind or metapsychology?

I agree the reflective space has been expanded but that could also affect the attention span.


Because all programmers are programed. It is programing itself, that's why these studies are recent. Any program is to optimize itself. That's what the super mind wants. It's always been there. What we see is a reflection. Of the super mind.


Being programmed doesn't mean you have the same program or the same responses.But considering what you've said above,then that would mean it's all part of the super mind's plan to optimize itself.For what reason?


To be and become. The purpose of life is life.
tycho
#22 Posted : Thursday, July 10, 2014 5:11:43 PM
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The science is mathematics. The mathematics of social networks. Influencing thresholds and turning points, distribution and scheduling. Ordering and semantics.

But art has a crucial role. Science and art intertwined. Live social networks.
Wakanyugi
#23 Posted : Thursday, July 10, 2014 5:35:46 PM
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Muriel wrote:
tycho wrote:


Social networks are a powerful tool. They are a resource. The new field for Revolution and counter-revolt.


If they are a tool then I am glad I am not the raw material.



I think we are all raw materials now.

I had a scary experience of this the other day. I was searching for a running belt on Amazon. I didn't buy. But since then Facebook has been advertising running belts on my FB page. I have never, to my knowledge, linked the two pages.

Privacy today is as dead as the dodo.
"The opposite of a correct statement is a false statement. But the opposite of a profound truth may well be another profound truth." (Niels Bohr)
tycho
#24 Posted : Thursday, July 10, 2014 5:42:10 PM
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Wakanyugi wrote:
Muriel wrote:
tycho wrote:


Social networks are a powerful tool. They are a resource. The new field for Revolution and counter-revolt.


If they are a tool then I am glad I am not the raw material.



I think we are all raw materials now.

I had a scary experience of this the other day. I was searching for a running belt on Amazon. I didn't buy. But since then Facebook has been advertising running belts on my FB page. I have never, to my knowledge, linked the two pages.

Privacy today is as dead as the dodo.


Is the cost of privacy greater than the benefits? Effect on morality?

Now we are raw materials, producers, and consumers at the same time.
symbols
#25 Posted : Thursday, July 10, 2014 9:23:53 PM
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Joined: 3/19/2013
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tycho wrote:
symbols wrote:
tycho wrote:
symbols wrote:
I thought you were talking about the objectives of the program.

Why define it as a super mind or metapsychology?

I agree the reflective space has been expanded but that could also affect the attention span.


Because all programmers are programed. It is programing itself, that's why these studies are recent. Any program is to optimize itself. That's what the super mind wants. It's always been there. What we see is a reflection. Of the super mind.


Being programmed doesn't mean you have the same program or the same responses.But considering what you've said above,then that would mean it's all part of the super mind's plan to optimize itself.For what reason?


To be and become. The purpose of life is life.

The purpose of life is life.What does that mean?To be life and become life?
symbols
#26 Posted : Thursday, July 10, 2014 9:35:50 PM
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Joined: 3/19/2013
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tycho wrote:
Wakanyugi wrote:
Muriel wrote:
tycho wrote:


Social networks are a powerful tool. They are a resource. The new field for Revolution and counter-revolt.


If they are a tool then I am glad I am not the raw material.



I think we are all raw materials now.

I had a scary experience of this the other day. I was searching for a running belt on Amazon. I didn't buy. But since then Facebook has been advertising running belts on my FB page. I have never, to my knowledge, linked the two pages.

Privacy today is as dead as the dodo.


Is the cost of privacy greater than the benefits? Effect on morality?

Now we are raw materials, producers, and consumers at the same time.

What are the benefits?
symbols
#27 Posted : Thursday, July 10, 2014 11:00:20 PM
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Joined: 3/19/2013
Posts: 2,552
tycho wrote:
The science is mathematics. The mathematics of social networks. Influencing thresholds and turning points, distribution and scheduling. Ordering and semantics.

But art has a crucial role. Science and art intertwined. Live social networks.

What would the music be without sounds
Muriel
#28 Posted : Friday, July 11, 2014 7:46:30 AM
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Wakanyugi wrote:
Muriel wrote:
tycho wrote:


Social networks are a powerful tool. They are a resource. The new field for Revolution and counter-revolt.


If they are a tool then I am glad I am not the raw material.



I think we are all raw materials now.

I had a scary experience of this the other day. I was searching for a running belt on Amazon. I didn't buy. But since then Facebook has been advertising running belts on my FB page. I have never, to my knowledge, linked the two pages.

Privacy today is as dead as the dodo.


To me, that it is you who did go looking for the running belt first proves to me that you were not the raw material there.

You took the initiative.

On the other hand, if first you saw the running belt on "facebook" (How I detest it!) then decided you want it and went to Amazon you would then be a raw material ready for "processing".

I have not "linked" anything anywhere and I have a bunch of pro privacy addons hence my dodo is still alive today.
tycho
#29 Posted : Friday, July 11, 2014 3:08:39 PM
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symbols wrote:
tycho wrote:
symbols wrote:
tycho wrote:
symbols wrote:
I thought you were talking about the objectives of the program.

Why define it as a super mind or metapsychology?

I agree the reflective space has been expanded but that could also affect the attention span.


Because all programmers are programed. It is programing itself, that's why these studies are recent. Any program is to optimize itself. That's what the super mind wants. It's always been there. What we see is a reflection. Of the super mind.


Being programmed doesn't mean you have the same program or the same responses.But considering what you've said above,then that would mean it's all part of the super mind's plan to optimize itself.For what reason?


To be and become. The purpose of life is life.

The purpose of life is life.What does that mean?To be life and become life?


Yes. To be. And being is organizing and disorganizing. Why disorganize to organize? Because the cost of not disorganizing is greater than the benefits. To enjoy more benefits, one embraces chaos. The direction is life in itself. Energy. Power. Intelligence. Language.

Privacy, is about how we know, and understand what we don't know. Cover is for insufficiency before the it. A consolation of the mind.

Music has sound, light, kinesthetic sense, and other 'characteristics' whose perception is of a different kind from normal human perception.
tycho
#30 Posted : Friday, July 11, 2014 3:26:39 PM
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Muriel wrote:
Wakanyugi wrote:
Muriel wrote:
tycho wrote:


Social networks are a powerful tool. They are a resource. The new field for Revolution and counter-revolt.


If they are a tool then I am glad I am not the raw material.



I think we are all raw materials now.

I had a scary experience of this the other day. I was searching for a running belt on Amazon. I didn't buy. But since then Facebook has been advertising running belts on my FB page. I have never, to my knowledge, linked the two pages.

Privacy today is as dead as the dodo.


To me, that it is you who did go looking for the running belt first proves to me that you were not the raw material there.

You took the initiative.

On the other hand, if first you saw the running belt on "facebook" (How I detest it!) then decided you want it and went to Amazon you would then be a raw material ready for "processing".

I have not "linked" anything anywhere and I have a bunch of pro privacy addons hence my dodo is still alive today.


Why is it not, that the running belt manufacturer prompted @Wakanyugi to check for it at amazon? The social network isn't linear, and ordered. The individual orders it for himself. An illustration is best seen in graph theory. You can analyze a path from any node(point) and go through all points and back to it.

The same for each point.
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