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masukuma wrote:AlphDoti wrote:masukuma wrote:AlphDoti wrote:This is not Islam! This is prostitution, whoever they call themselves. What they are doing is prostitution. There is no question about haram things in Islam. And that also represent my views on them; pork, alcohol, fornication, adultery, mapango wa kando, mixing of sexes, and music & dancing etc. This video is so questionableSee those guys in caps: these are not Muslims, they clad in Kanzu and buibui to look like Muslims. Why would you wear an Islamic attire, then go do sinful acts in front of the camera? Doesn't that clearly tell what the intention is? It means you either don't know what Islam is, or you are doing it intentionally for the camera. Those who do that violated Islamic rules, and they are not real Muslims. Or they are acting for the video. And they are doing this inside a tent?  haya! deny! deny! deny! deny! @masukuma we discussed this same video 3 months ago here. I guess we will be discussing it again in Oct this year? no that were other videos! young somali men and women 'daggering' each other to 'western music'. Hii ya leo ni Arabic women (they look middle aged). I think I even saw some kisses between these women. @masukuma I will repeat again, if at all the video is not acted, then I will tell these people are not following any religion! Simple. Fornication is forbidden in Islam. This kind of behaviour is not in the practice according to teachings of Quran and Prophet's sayings (Hadith). Allah (God) will not look at them on the Day of Judgment, and Allah (God) will put them into the Hell fire... except for those who repent. As those who repent Allah will accept their repentance. I will tell you again, no religion approves such behaviours. Even the way of Jesus Christ is not like this. So if I see anyone calling himself a Christian doing this, I will tell him you are not following Christianity. I will tell the person you are doing prostitution. Jesus (pbuh) never taught such things, Muhammad (pbuh) never taught such things. So let us treat these people as sick in the mind.
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Rank: Elder Joined: 1/21/2010 Posts: 6,675 Location: Nairobi
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masukuma wrote:AlphDoti wrote:masukuma wrote:AlphDoti wrote:This is not Islam! This is prostitution, whoever they call themselves. What they are doing is prostitution. There is no question about haram things in Islam. And that also represent my views on them; pork, alcohol, fornication, adultery, mapango wa kando, mixing of sexes, and music & dancing etc. This video is so questionableSee those guys in caps: these are not Muslims, they clad in Kanzu and buibui to look like Muslims. Why would you wear an Islamic attire, then go do sinful acts in front of the camera? Doesn't that clearly tell what the intention is? It means you either don't know what Islam is, or you are doing it intentionally for the camera. Those who do that violated Islamic rules, and they are not real Muslims. Or they are acting for the video. And they are doing this inside a tent?  haya! deny! deny! deny! deny! @masukuma we discussed this same video 3 months ago here. I guess we will be discussing it again in Oct this year? no that were other videos! young somali men and women 'daggering' each other to 'western music'. Hii ya leo ni Arabic women (they look middle aged). I think I even saw some kisses between these women. Boring.... Find something better to do than expose others sins! Let people sin in peace.. Kindly Start an interesting thread because Im YAWNING with these! Mark 12:29 Deuteronomy 4:16
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Rank: Elder Joined: 10/4/2006 Posts: 13,823 Location: Nairobi
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AlphDoti wrote:masukuma wrote:AlphDoti wrote:masukuma wrote:AlphDoti wrote:This is not Islam! This is prostitution, whoever they call themselves. What they are doing is prostitution. There is no question about haram things in Islam. And that also represent my views on them; pork, alcohol, fornication, adultery, mapango wa kando, mixing of sexes, and music & dancing etc. This video is so questionableSee those guys in caps: these are not Muslims, they clad in Kanzu and buibui to look like Muslims. Why would you wear an Islamic attire, then go do sinful acts in front of the camera? Doesn't that clearly tell what the intention is? It means you either don't know what Islam is, or you are doing it intentionally for the camera. Those who do that violated Islamic rules, and they are not real Muslims. Or they are acting for the video. And they are doing this inside a tent?  haya! deny! deny! deny! deny! @masukuma we discussed this same video 3 months ago here. I guess we will be discussing it again in Oct this year? no that were other videos! young somali men and women 'daggering' each other to 'western music'. Hii ya leo ni Arabic women (they look middle aged). I think I even saw some kisses between these women. @masukuma I will repeat again, if at all the video is not acted, then I will tell these people are not following any religion! Simple. Fornication is forbidden in Islam. This kind of behaviour is not in the practice according to teachings of Quran and Prophet's sayings (Hadith). Allah (God) will not look at them on the Day of Judgment, and Allah (God) will put them into the Hell fire... except for those who repent. As those who repent Allah will accept their repentance. I will tell you again, no religion approves such behaviours. Even the way of Jesus Christ is not like this. So if I see anyone calling himself a Christian doing this, I will tell him you are not following Christianity. I will tell the person you are doing prostitution. Jesus (pbuh) never taught such things, Muhammad (pbuh) never taught such things. So let us treat these people as sick in the mind. another one with faces vizuri! I put it to you that not all muslims see things the way you see them! and that is the point of my posts - there are nutty muslims who blow up stuff (guru may be a candidate here) , there are strict muslims like you who try to the best of their ability to live true to the tenets of islam (admirable by the way) but think every other muslim is like them and then there are a large number of cultural muslims in the arab world or places that have traditionally been praticing islam that only identify themselves as muslim kwa form and go to the mosque kwa sababu they found themselves in an islamic context! I am not speaking out of ignorance as you know I have worked extensively in these countries and I can differentiate. All Mushrooms are edible! Some Mushroom are only edible ONCE!
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Rank: Veteran Joined: 11/17/2009 Posts: 1,049
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masukuma wrote:AlphDoti wrote:masukuma wrote:AlphDoti wrote:This is not Islam! This is prostitution, whoever they call themselves. What they are doing is prostitution. There is no question about haram things in Islam. And that also represent my views on them; pork, alcohol, fornication, adultery, mapango wa kando, mixing of sexes, and music & dancing etc. This video is so questionableSee those guys in caps: these are not Muslims, they clad in Kanzu and buibui to look like Muslims. Why would you wear an Islamic attire, then go do sinful acts in front of the camera? Doesn't that clearly tell what the intention is? It means you either don't know what Islam is, or you are doing it intentionally for the camera. Those who do that violated Islamic rules, and they are not real Muslims. Or they are acting for the video. And they are doing this inside a tent?  haya! deny! deny! deny! deny! @masukuma we discussed this same video 3 months ago here. I guess we will be discussing it again in Oct this year? no that were other videos! young somali men and women 'daggering' each other to 'western music'. Hii ya leo ni Arabic women (they look middle aged). I think I even saw some kisses between these women. The all too farmiliar attempt at diverting attention falls flat. Now you'll have to resort to other tacts, any tactis to defend fellows who are having the fun of their lives! Tough job! Just as absolute power corrupts leaders, so does absolute fanaticism blind the people from logic
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Rank: New-farer Joined: 9/29/2012 Posts: 79
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masukuma wrote:Lolest! wrote:Propaganda by enemies of Islam
Guru and alphdoti(pbuh, swt, nmg, lol, olx,etc) and other Muslims would never do that
Big paragraph 1 with bold and colour for emphasis
Big paragraph 2
Big paragraph 3 accusing Christainity
This might hit 200 posts umefanya nicheke.  lol,olx The God of the day is still God in the night.
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Rank: Elder Joined: 7/11/2012 Posts: 5,222
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guru267 wrote:Muslims also sin guru267 wrote:Let people sin in peace..  #filedforfuturereferrence
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Rank: Elder Joined: 11/7/2007 Posts: 2,182
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why are we bashing muslims here; dont Christians have sex left right and centre? si hata wengine go to do weddings when the stomach is very full yet the priest/pastor blesses their "holy" union. aii wachaneni na waislamu. as I said before it is excepcted and acceptable. LOVE WHAT YOU DO, DO WHAT YOU LOVE.
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Rank: Elder Joined: 6/20/2008 Posts: 6,275 Location: Kenya
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kyt wrote:why are we bashing muslims here; dont Christians have sex left right and centre? si hata wengine go to do weddings when the stomach is very full yet the priest/pastor blesses their "holy" union. aii wachaneni na waislamu. as I said before it is excepcted and acceptable. @kyt when people go to a garden of fruits to pick them, do they hit at the good ripen fruit or the rotten one? This is why you see Dr. Afred Mutua being discussed and bashed almost every new thread on governor. Similarly for Islam, I don't blame them, I understand that Muslims are supposed to be example of the best character, which they are, more than anyone else! @kyt wait and see, another thread will come up soon trying to malign Islam. You will never see one created about the vices you see going on in Church, and when they do like the gay thing in PCEA, the people here defend it like crazy.
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Rank: Elder Joined: 10/4/2006 Posts: 13,823 Location: Nairobi
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Mukiri wrote:guru267 wrote:Muslims also sin guru267 wrote:Let people sin in peace..  #filedforfuturereferrence this was my point all along! Muslims are not some band of super humans! they sin... they are adulterers and adulteresses. they steal! they drink! THEY ARE HUMANS trying to get salvation but everyday we are told the opposite while receiving quotations in red and blue. Kila mtu aendee kutafuta salvation yake. All Mushrooms are edible! Some Mushroom are only edible ONCE!
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