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AlphDoti
#21 Posted : Monday, July 07, 2014 10:41:02 PM
Rank: Elder

Joined: 6/20/2008
Posts: 6,275
Location: Kenya
masukuma wrote:
AlphDoti wrote:
masukuma wrote:
AlphDoti wrote:
This is not Islam! This is prostitution, whoever they call themselves. What they are doing is prostitution.

There is no question about haram things in Islam. And that also represent my views on them; pork, alcohol, fornication, adultery, mapango wa kando, mixing of sexes, and music & dancing etc.

This video is so questionable
See those guys in caps: these are not Muslims, they clad in Kanzu and buibui to look like Muslims. Why would you wear an Islamic attire, then go do sinful acts in front of the camera? Doesn't that clearly tell what the intention is?

It means you either don't know what Islam is, or you are doing it intentionally for the camera. Those who do that violated Islamic rules, and they are not real Muslims. Or they are acting for the video.

And they are doing this inside a tent?


haya! deny! deny! deny! deny!

@masukuma we discussed this same video 3 months ago here. I guess we will be discussing it again in Oct this year?

no that were other videos! young somali men and women 'daggering' each other to 'western music'. Hii ya leo ni Arabic women (they look middle aged). I think I even saw some kisses between these women.

@masukuma I will repeat again, if at all the video is not acted, then I will tell these people are not following any religion! Simple.

Fornication is forbidden in Islam. This kind of behaviour is not in the practice according to teachings of Quran and Prophet's sayings (Hadith). Allah (God) will not look at them on the Day of Judgment, and Allah (God) will put them into the Hell fire... except for those who repent. As those who repent Allah will accept their repentance.

I will tell you again, no religion approves such behaviours. Even the way of Jesus Christ is not like this. So if I see anyone calling himself a Christian doing this, I will tell him you are not following Christianity. I will tell the person you are doing prostitution. Jesus (pbuh) never taught such things, Muhammad (pbuh) never taught such things.

So let us treat these people as sick in the mind.
guru267
#22 Posted : Monday, July 07, 2014 10:43:27 PM
Rank: Elder

Joined: 1/21/2010
Posts: 6,675
Location: Nairobi
masukuma wrote:
AlphDoti wrote:
masukuma wrote:
AlphDoti wrote:
This is not Islam! This is prostitution, whoever they call themselves. What they are doing is prostitution.

There is no question about haram things in Islam. And that also represent my views on them; pork, alcohol, fornication, adultery, mapango wa kando, mixing of sexes, and music & dancing etc.

This video is so questionable
See those guys in caps: these are not Muslims, they clad in Kanzu and buibui to look like Muslims. Why would you wear an Islamic attire, then go do sinful acts in front of the camera? Doesn't that clearly tell what the intention is?

It means you either don't know what Islam is, or you are doing it intentionally for the camera. Those who do that violated Islamic rules, and they are not real Muslims. Or they are acting for the video.

And they are doing this inside a tent?


haya! deny! deny! deny! deny!

@masukuma we discussed this same video 3 months ago here. I guess we will be discussing it again in Oct this year?

no that were other videos! young somali men and women 'daggering' each other to 'western music'. Hii ya leo ni Arabic women (they look middle aged). I think I even saw some kisses between these women.


Boring.... Find something better to do than expose others sins!

Let people sin in peace..

Kindly Start an interesting thread because Im YAWNING with these!
Mark 12:29
Deuteronomy 4:16
masukuma
#23 Posted : Monday, July 07, 2014 10:49:32 PM
Rank: Elder

Joined: 10/4/2006
Posts: 13,823
Location: Nairobi
AlphDoti wrote:
masukuma wrote:
AlphDoti wrote:
masukuma wrote:
AlphDoti wrote:
This is not Islam! This is prostitution, whoever they call themselves. What they are doing is prostitution.

There is no question about haram things in Islam. And that also represent my views on them; pork, alcohol, fornication, adultery, mapango wa kando, mixing of sexes, and music & dancing etc.

This video is so questionable
See those guys in caps: these are not Muslims, they clad in Kanzu and buibui to look like Muslims. Why would you wear an Islamic attire, then go do sinful acts in front of the camera? Doesn't that clearly tell what the intention is?

It means you either don't know what Islam is, or you are doing it intentionally for the camera. Those who do that violated Islamic rules, and they are not real Muslims. Or they are acting for the video.

And they are doing this inside a tent?


haya! deny! deny! deny! deny!

@masukuma we discussed this same video 3 months ago here. I guess we will be discussing it again in Oct this year?

no that were other videos! young somali men and women 'daggering' each other to 'western music'. Hii ya leo ni Arabic women (they look middle aged). I think I even saw some kisses between these women.

@masukuma I will repeat again, if at all the video is not acted, then I will tell these people are not following any religion! Simple.

Fornication is forbidden in Islam. This kind of behaviour is not in the practice according to teachings of Quran and Prophet's sayings (Hadith). Allah (God) will not look at them on the Day of Judgment, and Allah (God) will put them into the Hell fire... except for those who repent. As those who repent Allah will accept their repentance.

I will tell you again, no religion approves such behaviours. Even the way of Jesus Christ is not like this. So if I see anyone calling himself a Christian doing this, I will tell him you are not following Christianity. I will tell the person you are doing prostitution. Jesus (pbuh) never taught such things, Muhammad (pbuh) never taught such things.

So let us treat these people as sick in the mind.

another one with faces vizuri!

I put it to you that not all muslims see things the way you see them! and that is the point of my posts - there are nutty muslims who blow up stuff (guru may be a candidate here) , there are strict muslims like you who try to the best of their ability to live true to the tenets of islam (admirable by the way) but think every other muslim is like them and then there are a large number of cultural muslims in the arab world or places that have traditionally been praticing islam that only identify themselves as muslim kwa form and go to the mosque kwa sababu they found themselves in an islamic context! I am not speaking out of ignorance as you know I have worked extensively in these countries and I can differentiate.
All Mushrooms are edible! Some Mushroom are only edible ONCE!
Nandwa
#24 Posted : Monday, July 07, 2014 11:32:52 PM
Rank: Veteran

Joined: 11/17/2009
Posts: 1,049
masukuma wrote:
AlphDoti wrote:
masukuma wrote:
AlphDoti wrote:
This is not Islam! This is prostitution, whoever they call themselves. What they are doing is prostitution.

There is no question about haram things in Islam. And that also represent my views on them; pork, alcohol, fornication, adultery, mapango wa kando, mixing of sexes, and music & dancing etc.

This video is so questionable
See those guys in caps: these are not Muslims, they clad in Kanzu and buibui to look like Muslims. Why would you wear an Islamic attire, then go do sinful acts in front of the camera? Doesn't that clearly tell what the intention is?

It means you either don't know what Islam is, or you are doing it intentionally for the camera. Those who do that violated Islamic rules, and they are not real Muslims. Or they are acting for the video.

And they are doing this inside a tent?


haya! deny! deny! deny! deny!

@masukuma we discussed this same video 3 months ago here. I guess we will be discussing it again in Oct this year?

no that were other videos! young somali men and women 'daggering' each other to 'western music'. Hii ya leo ni Arabic women (they look middle aged). I think I even saw some kisses between these women.


The all too farmiliar attempt at diverting attention falls flat.
Now you'll have to resort to other tacts, any tactis to defend fellows who are having the fun of their lives!
Tough job!

Just as absolute power corrupts leaders, so does absolute fanaticism blind the people from logic
Richie rich
#25 Posted : Monday, July 07, 2014 11:41:47 PM
Rank: New-farer

Joined: 9/29/2012
Posts: 79
masukuma wrote:
Lolest! wrote:
Propaganda by enemies of Islam

Guru and alphdoti(pbuh, swt, nmg, lol, olx,etc) and other Muslims would never do that

Big paragraph 1 with bold and colour for emphasis

Big paragraph 2

Big paragraph 3 accusing Christainity

This might hit 200 posts

umefanya nicheke.

Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly lol,olx
The God of the day is still God in the night.
Mukiri
#26 Posted : Monday, July 07, 2014 11:44:47 PM
Rank: Elder

Joined: 7/11/2012
Posts: 5,222
guru267 wrote:
Muslims also sin

guru267 wrote:
Let people sin in peace..

Applause #filedforfuturereferrence

Proverbs 19:21
kyt
#27 Posted : Tuesday, July 08, 2014 7:07:31 AM
Rank: Elder

Joined: 11/7/2007
Posts: 2,182
why are we bashing muslims here; dont Christians have sex left right and centre? si hata wengine go to do weddings when the stomach is very full yet the priest/pastor blesses their "holy" union. aii wachaneni na waislamu. as I said before it is excepcted and acceptable.
LOVE WHAT YOU DO, DO WHAT YOU LOVE.
AlphDoti
#28 Posted : Tuesday, July 08, 2014 9:17:34 AM
Rank: Elder

Joined: 6/20/2008
Posts: 6,275
Location: Kenya
kyt wrote:
why are we bashing muslims here; dont Christians have sex left right and centre? si hata wengine go to do weddings when the stomach is very full yet the priest/pastor blesses their "holy" union. aii wachaneni na waislamu. as I said before it is excepcted and acceptable.

@kyt when people go to a garden of fruits to pick them, do they hit at the good ripen fruit or the rotten one?

This is why you see Dr. Afred Mutua being discussed and bashed almost every new thread on governor. Similarly for Islam, I don't blame them, I understand that Muslims are supposed to be example of the best character, which they are, more than anyone else!

@kyt wait and see, another thread will come up soon trying to malign Islam. You will never see one created about the vices you see going on in Church, and when they do like the gay thing in PCEA, the people here defend it like crazy.
masukuma
#29 Posted : Tuesday, July 08, 2014 9:25:40 AM
Rank: Elder

Joined: 10/4/2006
Posts: 13,823
Location: Nairobi
Mukiri wrote:
guru267 wrote:
Muslims also sin

guru267 wrote:
Let people sin in peace..

Applause #filedforfuturereferrence

this was my point all along! Muslims are not some band of super humans! they sin... they are adulterers and adulteresses. they steal! they drink! THEY ARE HUMANS trying to get salvation but everyday we are told the opposite while receiving quotations in red and blue. Kila mtu aendee kutafuta salvation yake.
All Mushrooms are edible! Some Mushroom are only edible ONCE!
kizee1
#30 Posted : Tuesday, July 08, 2014 9:52:28 AM
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Joined: 9/29/2010
Posts: 679
Location: nairobi
this might explain why al baghdadi is BALLING

http://edition.cnn.com/2...html?iid=article_sidebar
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