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symbols wrote:AlphDoti wrote:symbols wrote:Which Bible mentions Muhammad and how has it become a Muslim issue free from corruption? @symbol, which Bible do you use?  Net Bible. You mean you just search on Internet? It's okay, I just hope you don't end up in false site one day. Now, what does your Net Bible say about Muhammad?According to @Muriel, the Bible has so many things to say about the rise of Soviet Russia, about the last Days, even bout the Pope of the Roman Catholic. There must be something about Muhammad (pbuh). Please tell me.
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Rank: Elder Joined: 3/19/2013 Posts: 2,552
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AlphDoti wrote:symbols wrote:AlphDoti wrote:symbols wrote:Which Bible mentions Muhammad and how has it become a Muslim issue free from corruption? @symbol, which Bible do you use? Net Bible. You mean you just search on Internet? It's okay, I just hope you don't end up in false site one day. Now, what does your Net Bible say about Muhammad?According to @Muriel, the Bible has so many things to say about the rise of Soviet Russia, about the last Days, even bout the Pope of the Roman Catholic. There must be something about Muhammad (pbuh). Please tell me. It's a bible. It was your claim that Islam worships exactly like the prophets which I think is impossible if you don't have a Sabbath.What happened to the 4th commandment and Qur'an being consistent with previous scripture? About the camels,at least you've acknowledged Islam goes against the Torah but now the argument is AlphDoti wrote:we cannot always speak on behalf of GOD Almighty 100%. We cannot know for sure why He, allowed some things and He forbade some things. Now I'm amazed.You want me to prove your claim that Muhammad was mentioned by name in the Bible?It's even more interesting that you mention Muhammad considering on this very thread you said you only use the Bible on Christian issues.
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Rank: Elder Joined: 3/18/2011 Posts: 12,069 Location: Kianjokoma
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symbols wrote:AlphDoti wrote:symbols wrote:AlphDoti wrote:symbols wrote:Which Bible mentions Muhammad and how has it become a Muslim issue free from corruption? @symbol, which Bible do you use? Net Bible. You mean you just search on Internet? It's okay, I just hope you don't end up in false site one day. Now, what does your Net Bible say about Muhammad?According to @Muriel, the Bible has so many things to say about the rise of Soviet Russia, about the last Days, even bout the Pope of the Roman Catholic. There must be something about Muhammad (pbuh). Please tell me. It's a bible. It was your claim that Islam worships exactly like the prophets which I think is impossible if you don't have a Sabbath.What happened to the 4th commandment and Qur'an being consistent with previous scripture? About the camels,at least you've acknowledged Islam goes against the Torah but now the argument is AlphDoti wrote:we cannot always speak on behalf of GOD Almighty 100%. We cannot know for sure why He, allowed some things and He forbade some things. Now I'm amazed.You want me to prove your claim that Muhammad was mentioned by name in the Bible?It's even more interesting that you mention Muhammad considering on this very thread you said you only use the Bible on Christian issues. confusion, discombobulation!
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Rank: Elder Joined: 3/18/2011 Posts: 12,069 Location: Kianjokoma
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AlphDoti wrote:Lolest! wrote:First he said: Quote:@lonest! The name in Chapter 20 verse 95 says: "(Moses) said: 'What then is your case, O Samari?'"
I don't know where you got "Samaritan" from?
Then: Quote:Samari(tan) among Moses and his people, therefore according to you Quran is false.
Now i'll prove to you again that the Quran is one book with no doubt, with a challenge to those who want to disprove it, and many have tried in vain, many years
And I'll refer to the Bible where we'll note two interesting facts.
Now i'll prove to you again that the Quran is one book with no doubt, with a challenge to those who want to disprove it, and many have tried in vain, many years
And I'll refer to the Bible where we'll note two interesting facts.
Number two: "You (Jerusalem) are a daughter..., who despised her husband.. Your mother was a Hittite and your father an Amorite. Your older sister was Samaria,..." [Bible, Ezekiel 16:45,46]
We can see from above verse that Samaria is the older sister of Jerusalem. The Bible recognises this. Jerusalem is a very old city and Samaria is even older.
Number two: "You (Jerusalem) are a daughter..., who despised her husband.. Your mother was a Hittite and your father an Amorite. Your older sister was Samaria,..." [Bible, Ezekiel 16:45,46]
We can see from above verse that Samaria is the older sister of Jerusalem. The Bible recognises this. Jerusalem is a very old city and Samaria is even older. How does the second part prove the quran's correctness while you're telling us that Samiri jamaa wasn't Samaritan(from Samaria)? @lonest does my quote above say Samiri jamaa was not Samaritan? Read it properly. My quote disputes your errorneous quoting of the Quran. I said Chapter 20 verse 95 says: "(Moses) said: 'What then is your case, O Samari?'". Do you see any "samaritan" in that verse? it's in bold there. How does the quote from Ezekiel prove the quran is correct? It's Samiri right? as-Samiri? What is the word Samaritan in Arabic?
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Rank: Elder Joined: 3/18/2011 Posts: 12,069 Location: Kianjokoma
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AlphDoti wrote:Lolest! wrote:pole kaka doti. Just left jobo. Let's continue tomorrow au ni leo? @lonest! I know the gap is becoming smaller as we both become tolerant, despite your competing attitude. You're still depicting Islam in a manner where you end up saying: "Muhammad the imposter, the dreamer, the epileptic", These words by me???? wapi?? don't lie about me bana!!  At least imposter is close to the fraud, false prophet and pervert which are words I've used to describe Muhammad. Coz I believe the adjectives fit him
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Rank: Elder Joined: 3/18/2011 Posts: 12,069 Location: Kianjokoma
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AlphDoti wrote:
1. you said I've ignored @lonest. That's not true, I'm the one who told you that @lonest has ignored me.
Lol. Not unless this lonely lonest friend of yours is another wazuan. Hapo tutaomba adimini atusaidie kumtafuta. I guess Muslims are special. Or like to be treated as special beings. While watching World Cup with some Muslims, they kept pointing out to me Muslims in the different teams from Ozil, Ahmed Musa, Rais, Benzema... My friend, incidentally called Mohammed , believes the World has not seen a better goal keeper than Rais of Algeria. Never mind Tim Howard of USA has made history by the number of saves per match in 50 years I have watched WC with these guys but I've never seen them so passionate(and heartbroken) about a team like they were for Algeria. Same here in wazua. Muslims feel you must be online when they want you to be. They will log in and post when they're ready but you will log in and post when they want. And @Muriel is right. We're still wondering how God could say the Jews called Jesus Messiah. They never believed Jesus was Messiah, how then could Allah say Jews called Jesus son of Mary Messiah? And the same Jews, who were waiting for a Messiah, were happy to see the guy they thought was the messiah dead Either Allah is not God, or Muhammad received his revelations from another funny source
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Rank: Elder Joined: 3/18/2011 Posts: 12,069 Location: Kianjokoma
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I'd rather die than become a Muslim! I'd rather die than believe in tales from that guy(wacha nisitumie adjective in the spirit of dialogue) Ati you worship like the prophets! Did these prophets also allow for the practice of contractual prostitution like Muhammad allowed you to? Did they receive new revelations suited to cover their sins? What did they say about divorce? Or spreading of faith by force and bragging about increased numbers? Did they receive revelations from Satan? Do you offer sacrifices like they did?? Quote:But deep down in your heart, you shiver in hearing and seeing Muslims worship they way they do, because the Muslims worship exactly the way all Prophets, even Israelites prophets worshiped. including Jesus (pbuh) smile
I don't blame you, I know you didn't know about some things. You've not researched properly the two major religions. What you know about Islam is what you heard or seen on TV, or from your pastors, or from Internet etc. If only you could sit and read by yourself the basic books of these religions Pray
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Lolest! wrote:I'd rather die than become a Muslim!I'd rather die than believe in tales from that guy(wacha nisitumie adjective in the spirit of dialogue) Ati you worship like the prophets! Did these prophets also allow for the practice of contractual prostitution like Muhammad allowed you to? Did they receive new revelations suited to cover their sins? What did they say about divorce? Or spreading of faith by force and bragging about increased numbers? Did they receive revelations from Satan? Do you offer sacrifices like they did?? Quote:But deep down in your heart, you shiver in hearing and seeing Muslims worship they way they do, because the Muslims worship exactly the way all Prophets, even Israelites prophets worshiped. including Jesus (pbuh) smile
I don't blame you, I know you didn't know about some things. You've not researched properly the two major religions. What you know about Islam is what you heard or seen on TV, or from your pastors, or from Internet etc. If only you could sit and read by yourself the basic books of these religions Pray I completely feel you on this! I am pretty open minded about other religions, but Islam!! Hell no! From their founder who just copy pasted Judaism then was arrogant enough to try and pass it off as the only authentic religion, to the inclination they have towards violence courtesy of a violent founder, to the being forced to do things especially if you are a woman, to the complete brainwashing of believing that they are the only ones going to heaven ( atleast I'm not delusional to think al Christians will make it to heaven) This is one religion that I would literally rather go to hell
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Rank: Elder Joined: 6/20/2008 Posts: 6,275 Location: Kenya
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First, I type @lonest because when I type your name Wazua puts a smily face, so please me and know @lonest is you. Secondly, let us not get cursing each other and stuff like. Relax and debate calmly. Thirdly, what sickness is this you're picking, the habit of translating names, like the Bible scholars did. if you are from Kenya and you go to China, are you going to say i'm from Kenia? When you quote the Quran, quite exactly, don't put your words in it. Fourthly, below was my reply to your question. Now that you're back, Let's be honest and take it from here: AlphDoti wrote:Lolest! wrote:That was a nice try about the quranic confusion of Mary, Jesus' mother, and Miriam, Moses' sister But that is not the only historical error. In a book supposedly coming from God. Containing the very words of God. Surah 20 records: Quote:"[Moses] said, "O Aaron, what prevented you, when you saw them going astray, from following me? Then have you disobeyed my order?" [Aaron] said, "O son of my mother, do not seize [me] by my beard or by my head. Indeed, I feared that you would say, 'You caused division among the Children of Israel, and you did not observe [or await] my word.'" [Moses] said, "And what is your case, O Samaritan?" Who were the Samaritans?They were a mixed race group made up of the remnants of the northern kingdom of Israel who were not carried to captivity and immigrants. It came up looong after Israel had settled in Canaan, had judges, then kings, then had a split in kingdoms and the second kingdom was conquered by the Assyrians This Samaritan group, named after the town of Samaria could not have been in existence in the time of Musa! Muhammad wrote his confusions and even messed on historical accounts! @lonest! The name in Chapter 20 verse 95 says: "(Moses) said: 'What then is your case, O Samari?'" I don't know where you got "Samaritan" from? After speaking to Aaron, Moses now turns to Samari, and Samari's reply in the next verse 96 sums up his character as character-painting. He evades the issue about idol making and inventing falsehood. He claims he saw what everybody else dint see, he says he saw something supernatural in the footprints of Moses; perhaps he thinks a little flattery would make Moses forgive him. NOTE: I ASKED WAZUANS TO GOOGLE QURAN 20:95 AND PROVE @LONEST WRONG, GUILTY OF MISQUOTING.
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Rank: Elder Joined: 6/20/2008 Posts: 6,275 Location: Kenya
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@symbol I'll get back to you in the afternoon when I get back from a small trip I've this morning, inshallah (God willing).
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