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CBK reduces CBR rate
Bashka
#1 Posted : Tuesday, November 24, 2009 2:15:00 PM
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Today CBR revised down to 7.0 percent from 7.75 percent. This is a good move but will the commercial banks follow suit?. I think this will ease credit in the economy. CBR is supposed to be the signaling rate........am I right?
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#2 Posted : Thursday, December 03, 2009 10:10:16 AM
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you are rite.. is a a signalling rate...tho banks will not cut rates..the GoK and private sector(kengen and safcom) are competing massively with banks for funds...lending rates will not drop
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#3 Posted : Thursday, December 03, 2009 11:46:10 AM
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Banks as usual will not cut down there lendig rates.they usually set there rates taking many factors into consideration with the CBR being the least important ones.
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#4 Posted : Thursday, December 03, 2009 2:00:58 PM
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I think an important question will be the relationship of the rate to inflation. Since they changed the inflation methodology it will be difficult to know how effective it will be in taming inflation (although they insist there's none now), especially when demand-pull factors kick in. They have reduced the CBR rate many times over the last year, pumped in liquidity through omo and reduced the reserve ratio, all in the name of lower the cost of credit and liquidity. Don't see how much more they can do to control banks since the banks don't even need to borrow from them. Watch the public debt figure swell as government spends this economy into growth in 2010.
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#5 Posted : Thursday, December 03, 2009 8:29:27 PM
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CBR rate ni bure kabisa...

Banks compete with GoK bonds. Why would a bank lend at less than 15% when it gets 12.57% (exempt from taxes of 30%) from GoK's infrastructure bond?
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#6 Posted : Friday, December 04, 2009 7:03:34 AM
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@VVS What if the government tells you that the real interest rate is higher because of less inflation, would that change the way banks assess lending? But then again investing in government bonds allows the banks to lower loss provisions in their P&L, but the returns on short term government paper are poor (banks are encouraged to invest only in short term paper).

Much like our population, GDP growth, and money supply, the public debt is exponential, (and a prize for anyone who knows why?) so it's in CBK's best interest to keep interest rates low lest the cost of debt service sky-rockets.

And they have the perfect excuse to depress interest rates, which is the new inflation calculation-the same changes implemented in developed markets (such as US in 90s) through the use of flexible inflation methodologies like hedonics (check out this vid http://www.youtube.com/w...uN0&feature=channel by Chris Martenson). But what happens when inflation sets in (will we know no, or will core inflation of 2% look too low for worry). In the year to Sep 2009 bank credit to govt has grown (in value) by 35 bn (26.9% y-o-y), but consumer credit down 3 bn (-6.6% y-o-y), will inflation (demand-pull) climb once banks do what the governor wants, lend to us. When do we see the signal for interest rates to reset higher?

The CBK has not pumped in money through omo over the past three weeks but liquidity is still being targeted (lowering the interbank rate) probably to enable the treasury to finance its borrowing deficit with cheaper funds. The government needs to spend the economy into growth and they may look at the new inflation calculation to overstate economy growth (real GDP).

Interesting article by Mbui Wagacha in jana's BD on public debt.
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#7 Posted : Friday, December 04, 2009 9:14:36 AM
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What if the government tells you that the real interest rate is higher because of less inflation, would that change the way banks assess lending?

Inflation is just one factor. Defaults, Recovery process, Reserve Ratio, etc etc need to be factored in.

Investing in government bonds allows the banks to lower loss provisions in their P&L, but the returns on short term government paper are poor (banks are encouraged to invest only in short term paper)

No loan loss provision required (general or specific) for Treasury Bonds & Bills. I have not come across the "Banks may are encouraged to invest only in short-term paper"... (by whom? where is this info from?) nevertheless, banks are not prohibited from investing in long-term paper as long as they retain the minimum liquidity ratios. And GoK paper is easily used for repos & horizontal repos - the CBK encourages horizontal repos.

Much like our population, GDP growth, and money supply, the public debt is exponential.

Our GDP growth is not exponential... the rest is! I think monetarism makes sense. And when M3 explodes so does the chance of inflation without real economic growth.

It's in CBK's best interest to keep interest rates low lest the cost of debt service sky-rockets.

Then why is CBK/GoK paying 5% above inflation? It only crowds out private sector borrowing

In the year to Sep 2009 bank credit to govt has grown (in value) by 35 bn (26.9% y-o-y), but consumer credit down 3 bn (-6.6% y-o-y), will inflation (demand-pull) climb once banks do what the governor wants, lend to us. When do we see the signal for interest rates to reset higher?

Demand-pull inflation from GoK is more worrisome than private sector. The private sector is a better producer of real goods & services. What is driving money creation in Kenya?

The CBK has not pumped in money through omo over the past three weeks but liquidity is still being targeted.

OMO can be used to increase/lower liquidity in the system but CBK needs not add cash since GoK is doing it from the recent huge bond sales incl KenGen (quasi-government).
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Scubidu
#8 Posted : Friday, December 04, 2009 1:23:26 PM
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What I was saying is that banks make more money from lending, but if govt. artificially lowers the cost of credit, they may take opportunities to arbitrage the yield curve, but would prefer the former especially after being given the signal through the lower CBR rate.

The banking system is fairly liquid already as you alluded too and so the normal and horizontal repo markets have been fairly inactive, so what would taking on more govt paper achieve in the repo mart, but to lower loan provisions (since there are none on T-bill, etc as you mentioned).

The GDP (in value) terms is exponential and that is a more interesting indicator than the rate of change that everyone's used to-that's the relationship I wanted you to see, that's there's the imperative to grow exponentially is there to cover debts created-that's the problem with deficit spending and where the new inflation figure may help. There was emphasis on lowering the reserve ratio & CBR to raise liquidity to prevent a crowding out of the private sector, but due to the above factors you mentioned banks are not utilising these excess reserves.

The governor alluded to seeing no inflation problems, which is why he's comfortable lowering the CBR, but all I was saying is if the credit contraction to consumers reverses then the effects will be more clearly manifested (in the CPI). The government can also spend on private producers just as efficiently as the private sector, if it uses the money well on real goods and services. In fact speculative borrowing from ordinary consumers (Safaricom IPO) be just as damaging. Public debt is driving money creation as govt seeks to balance the budget.

Omo can also be used to enable banks to absorb new govt issues, because all the cash it adds become reserves on which the MM can be applied. That's why if you look between May and September you'll find that omo injections correlate very well with government auctions (especially T-Bond) where there were reserve deficits to be supported (to induce new borrowing-net of redemptions). I appreciate you sharing your expertise VVS.
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#9 Posted : Friday, December 04, 2009 5:35:52 PM
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I don't think Banks can arbitrage the difference between CBR & T-Bills/Bonds or Loans.

The CBR (Central Bank Window or Discount Rate) is a short-term facility designed to cover liquidity shortfalls. At most the CBR provides guidelines for interbank rates
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Apart from CBK frowning on lending to banks for on-lending, there is a maturity mismatch for CBR funds & (most) on-lending.

so what would taking on more govt paper achieve in the repo mart, but to lower loan provisions (since there are none on T-bill, etc as you mentioned).

Gov't paper is bought for its (i) returns (ii) liquidity BUT returns is key not the ability to enter into repos. Most banks do not want to use repos since (normally) the cost > income.

Lending banks prefer Repos since they lower risk of default especially with weaker banks.


The GDP (in value) terms is exponential.


My understanding of exponential refers to geometric not arithmetic growth.

Public debt is driving money creation as govt seeks to balance the budget.

That is what really worries me! We all have to pay the piper


Omo can also be used to enable banks to absorb new govt issues, because all the cash it adds become reserves on which the MM can be applied. That's why if you look between May and September you'll find that omo injections correlate very well with government auctions (especially T-Bond) where there were reserve deficits to be supported (to induce new borrowing-net of redemptions).

This argument either I did not understand... or I disagree with... not sure which is which
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Scubidu
#10 Posted : Saturday, December 05, 2009 1:35:29 PM
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IMHO the CBR is a signaling tool and apart from a few large banks, most don't exploit it. It is through this tool that other crucial rates (savings & interbank) are lowered give the banks the ability to arbitrage the curve. I could be wrong but that's what Ive come to understand. Nway I probably need to ponder on it some more.

So if the real GDP was not exponential, how would we keep up with public debt and money stock that you have indicated is growing exponentially-the interest component on debt alone requires a constant expansion in GDP. Avoiding inflation is done by matching the growth of money stock to the value of goods and services produced in the economy. A common example of these factors not moving proportionally is Zim whose economy declined since 2000, but money supply continued higher. An economic growth rate of 5% per annum doesn't result in the same change in value terms over a five year period, amounts will become increasing bigger as the growth rates are applied on the most recent amount.

I have an two interesting documents that illustrate the function of omo and how they work, if your interested in reading them, just email me at moneyedkenya@gmail.com
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Scubidu
#11 Posted : Sunday, December 06, 2009 5:00:45 PM
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I have found some useful resources online for your own research.

If you want more info on banks arbitraging the yield curve or the discount rate or a repo transaction go to
http://www.youtube.com/w...&p=CECDA315A8848B99
http://www.youtube.com/w...&p=CECDA315A8848B99
http://www.youtube.com/w...&p=CECDA315A8848B99

which are tutorials by some guy called Salman Khan (really smart dude in the US) that talks about Fraction Reserve Banking (our modern banking system).

If you want more info on the money creation process (in banks), exponential growth and inflation go to
http://www.youtube.com/w...LEA&feature=channel
http://www.youtube.com/w...3fk&feature=channel
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=afWqKcqntfs.

@VVS. To address your misunderstanding/disagreement with the interpretation of the omo process. So if you look at the banking system we operate in now, for every Kshs1 in deposits the bank must keep 4.5% minimum or 4.5 cents in reserve. And this method of banking is called Fractional Reserve banking as only a fraction of deposits are reserved. So if you take it from the other angle for every 4.5 cents in mandatory reserve, 95.5 cents are excess reserves which can be lent out. All commercial bank mandatory reserves (4.5%) are held at the central bank. What the CBK lends through omo, are reserves, on which the money multiplier (MM) can be applied. All reserves they lend are completely new and they have been authorised to do so by CBK Act CAP 491 section 22 (1) - concerning the issue of notes and coins.

So taking the example of CBK and Bank A. Through omo purchases the CBK lends cash reserves to Bank A which increases the reserves of Bank A (asset) and also increases the deposits (liability) of Bank A. For CBK, the injection increases the balance of the reserve account of Bank A at the Central Bank (liability) and the CBK gets collateral-e.g., treasury bond (asset). This is how the process works as well for the Federal Reserve Bank in the US. In concluson the CBK's purchase of an asset (T-bond) has a multiple leverage effect on the money supply, so if the reserve ratio was 20% for every Kshs1 in reserves injected Kshs4 could theoretically be lent out. The formula is New Money Lent = Injected * (money multiplier - 1); e.g., a ratio of 20% is 4 = 1 * (5-1). Our reserve ratio is only 4.5%, but that doesn't mean that bank will lend out all that is theoritically possible, but gives them the flexibility/opportunity to do so.

On the question of funding a budget deficit. Look at all the CBK bulletins between May 2009 and Oct 2009 to see a good correlation of omo injections to treasury auctions where the govt realized new borrowings. 29 June - CBK injected 15 bn & govt borrowed 11.8 bn in T-bonds and 1.4 bn in T-Bills. 27 Jul - CBK injected 11 bn & govt borrowed 9.9 bn in T-bonds and 1.6 bn in T-bills. August 24-26 - CBK injected 10+5=15 bn & govt borrowed 1.7 bn from T-bills and 7.3 bn in T-bond. 23 sep - CBK injected 5.2 bn & govt borrowed 7.3 bn in T-bonds. 28 Oct - CBK injected 3.5 bn & govt borrowed 3.1 bn in bonds. Since the end of October the KenGen PIBO created a lot of excess reserves in the banking system. Where actual bank reserves averaged Kshs158 bn between May-Oct they are now averaging Kshs168 bn in Nov, so the CBK doesn't need to use the reserve repo as the deficiency in reserve money is smaller in Nov.

Including the recent infrastructure bond, it can be estimated that Kenyan public debt will have grown about 14.4% as of last week compared to the figures the beginning of 2009. Alternatively public debt will have grown 25.3% y-o-y (since Nov 2008) to bring it to about Kshs1,111.70 bn, which is highest growth in the past 15 years (but not higher than the 1992-3 years). So I share your concern over inflation in the next few years. Nway VVS I appreciate the debate and I am sure it will give others a reason to do more research. Hava great week.
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#12 Posted : Monday, December 07, 2009 2:57:47 AM
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Thanks Scubidu,
About Salman Khan, I posted his incredibly useful site in an earlier post on internet resources.

For those who missed it out, it is http://khanacademy.org/
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#13 Posted : Monday, December 07, 2009 7:58:08 AM
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@scubidu:

1) You are looking at NOMINAL growth in GDP. Sure that will 'grow' the economy but stokes inflation. See Monetarism. Or even better see Zimbabwe with 'exponential' GDP growth in NOMINAL but not REAL terms. So where will we be in REAL terms if we have continued high rates (caused in large part by unproductive government spending)?

2) Fractional banking is easy to misuse. It is not the 'private' banks but the CBK that I worry about. Well, one more step & the GoK who are the real culprits. The continued (mostly) recurrent expenditure is a bad, bad sign. Even within the 'development' budgets, I wonder how much pork is hidden.

3) Helmut Kohl ran roughshod over a recalcitrant Bundesbank prior to the mergers of the Germanys for purely political gains. Kenya is even worse where the CBK governor serves at the pleasure of the prez. Or so seems. I believe the appointment is a prezzie preserve as well. We had an idiot called kotut during the goldenberg era.

4) It seems to me that the increase in M3 greater than REAL economic growth is a recipe for disaster. Unlike the USA, Kenya can't 'print' money while leaving rates low.
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Scubidu
#14 Posted : Monday, December 14, 2009 8:14:34 AM
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@Outvestor Thanks. I had searched for Salman Khan on Wazua but I hadn't found any previous posts, guess I musta missed it

@VVS 4got to reply to the post...Have you seen the latest CBK weekly bulletin...they have changed the whole format...it's horiffying the lack of detail on the report...so it looks like we don't have access to omo stats nymore (I hope they don't read these posts), but check out the interbank rate summary... The interbank rate has declined from a high of 7.2% in May to the low of 1.98% last week (prob lowest since 04). I think the CBK is more than capable of printing money and keeping rates low for a short of time as long as govt spends it quickly.

There's an interesting article by Wycliffe Muga in the December issue of African Business magazine where page 30 of the article says "The point of stimulus spending ... is simply to spend money - on something useful if possible, wasteful if necessary. Keynes proposed burying money in mineshafts, so that workers would be hired to dig it out. World War II was an effective stimulus that economically speaking, consisted of 100% waste. If war hadn't broken out, we could have enjoyed the same economic benefit by building all those tanks and planes and dumping them into the ocean". So the US now prints money to engage in inflationary war spending but fortunately they have China/Japan buying their govt bonds...but this can't last forever.

Fractional Banking: I'm more afraid of the private banks because as we've just seen through OMO, the CBK creates only a fraction of the money & most of the inflation is created when the banks lend it (back to govt or to private). The article written by Joseph Kinyua shows an interesting way our govt worked with banks in the 70s..."While a tight credit stance was to be maintained, it was considered necessary to channel more credit to agriculture in view of its significant contribution to the overall national economy. In this context, commercial banks were in 1975 instructed to increase their outstanding credit to agriculture to 17% of their deposit liabilities by June 1976. By the end of 1975, this ratio was 14% compared with 10% in 1974. During the period 1976/77, Kenya's terms of trade improved by over 60%, primarily following substantial increases in World prices of coffee and tea". Read page 7 of the paper here http://www.scribd.com/do...-Current-Framework-2000

The private banks aim to maximize profits by lending if it suits them or by freezing funds in favour of investments if it doesn't, plus they dictate which sector will drive growth. All the Central Bank does is enable them. 2009 Kenyan tea and coffee export prices have risen by 69% and 64% respectively (Nov 08-Oct 09), but growth in agri loans (38%) has been dwarfed by real estate (58%) y-o-y to Sep-09. So companies like Sasini prefer to issue an NSE bond than borrow from banks in order to create value on agricultural commodities. The dividend payout ratio for the Kenyan banking system was 26% in 07 and 28% in 08. How much of the retained earnings was relent productively? How much of the dividend was spent into the real economy? I have my eyes on the private banks.
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#15 Posted : Monday, December 14, 2009 9:10:04 AM
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This is tragic...the new CBK bulletin has a section on Gout and "How-to-avoid-the-obesity-epidemic" WTH...but gives us no details on omo activity or gross domestic debt. Has anyone looked at the KEPPS transactions, during the week..."daily average volume of 2,980 transactions and a corresponding daily average value of Kshs65 bn"...We are given details of the Lombard window (4.2bn worth alone) but not open market operations (OMO)...last week was a significant week because of the massive subscription (Sh43 bn) of the infrastructure bond...so OMO shud have recorded big volumes

@VVS To answer the other questions...I stand corrected...I was referring to nominal GDP...when govt stokes inflation they get more creative & adjust the GDP deflator (in this case the inflation calculation) to reflect better real growth...my initial concern was the relevance of the CBR rate in taming inflation...my question was when will we (investors) know when interest rates should reset upward (thus real growth be affected) if our perception of inflation has changed. Interestingly I tracked the Kenyan CPI (Base: Oct 1997=100) from Dec-00 to Dec-07 when it rose from 129.00 to 239.81 (up 110.81 points). Then in 2008 all hell broke loose (locally & abroad) so CPI rises further to 345.03 (up 105.22 points) in Sep-09. So the change over the last 1yr 9 months has been almost equivalent to the past 7 years prior (a global phenomenon?). So now we see why the market basket wasn't working anymore because M3 was growing faster than real growth...either nominal GDP must grow exponentially or inflation declines to zero to grow in real terms (based on our history I'd put my money on GDP having to rise).

There was another passage in the Muga article saying "When we're in a severe recession, good productive capacity goes to waste. Auto workers sit home unemployed because nobody has money to go out to dinner. The first thing for the government to try is to reduce interest rates, to encourage businesses to borrow money to hire more workers and buy equipment. But, if interest rates hit bottom, then the government has to shock the system back to life by spending money directly. Say Washington hires construction workers to build something, and those workers start buying cars and going to restaurants, then, after a while, the economy is running again."

Considering the path the govt has taken through the infrastructure bonds (& even the passat purchase), for all the unproductive spending govt normally does they also have the capacity to spend well enough to promote growth. If I took a huge loan from a bank to buy a fleet of cars and the government did the same what would be the difference on growth? It is what these private producers do with the money that makes the money productive and in our present case the govt is trying to play the role of the private individual...I think that's the rationale the treasury is using, but the ills of this deficit borrowing manifests itself in the future as you've mentioned b4. The govt thinks this strategy will work long term and is making plans to float a eurobond next year http://www.africa-investor.com/article.asp?id=6062
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#16 Posted : Monday, December 14, 2009 9:17:26 AM
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@scubidu - Though private banks create the downstream money expansion, the Reserve Ratio (RR) is controlled by the CBK (or its Master GoK).

Unlike CBK (whose primary borrower is GoK), the banks can't lend willy-nilly. The so called agricultural loans were pushed by NBK, Co-op Bank & KCB. I can tell you, that lots of these loans went bad.

KCB & NBK had to write of many of these loans. I am sure Co-op has some on its books. The GoK starting in 2002, started writing off loans owed to GoK institutions like AFC.

Lending for the sake of lending is WRONG... as you point out... the Keynesian expansion is often irrational especially in a country like Kenya.
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#17 Posted : Monday, December 14, 2009 12:54:37 PM
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in addition

1. how did cbk come up with a rate of 7 pct which is 400 basis points higher than the overnite rate???

2. why does a signallin rate(cbr) double up as a window rate???

the cbr rate is totally baseless as its totally in disconnect with market rates..the ecb/boe and fed rates are very close to market and thus when ammended send signals to the market that lead to a change in the relevant interest rates...

as vvs says kenynesian economics is all well and gud...however we used in kenya where our budget is 100% recurrent,little comes out of the same...btw cbk are yet to prove that the ifdb funds they received actually went into infrustructure



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#18 Posted : Tuesday, December 15, 2009 8:44:01 AM
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@kizee - The CBR is set up by the MPC & used to 'target' the Overnight Rate. The Overnight Rate is a function of the CBR & not the other way round. of course, there may be a disconnect if CBR is not used effectively.

Now... the crux... would you use CBR to base your lending decisions? Hell, no!!!! Unless you are lending overnight or very short term...

Surely, the MPC/CBK knows this? Or just trying to hoodwink the public. Shame on CBK...
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#19 Posted : Tuesday, December 15, 2009 9:46:58 AM
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@VVS - So how does one gauge if there is a disconnect; i.e., the CBR is not being used effectively? Will the changes in the overnight rate provide this crucial insight?

Could omo injections of liquidity influence the 'targeting' of the overnight rate?

Since banks don't lend willy-nilly (great term btw) which rate (apart from cbr) would most influence bank lending decisions then? I believe the base rate is still 15.5%.
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#20 Posted : Tuesday, December 15, 2009 11:07:00 AM
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the cbr is not being used properly becoz cbk goofed on day one by making the cbr and lombard rate one and the same,thus a major disconnect between the market and cbr rate arose as the lombard rate is a punitive rate to dicourage banks from borrowing from the cbk....OMO injections influenc the overnight rate as they distort the short term demand supply equillibrium(hey!maybe teh repo rate shud be a signalling rate???)...lending decisions by are bank as VVS said are a function of money factors including the banks cost of funds and general cost of business..the cbr is the best signalling tool cbk have..however the cbr as currently defined is the problem....they shud hav a different cbr and window rate..the cbr rate shud then be closer to market and thus ammendin it will probably lead to a change in the market rates(short term at least)
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