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Muriel
#191 Posted : Tuesday, July 01, 2014 7:34:15 AM
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AlphDoti wrote:

@muriel, you can try this. This challenge has not been given today, it was given 1400 ago. "No doubt We have sent down the Qur'an and surely We will guard it (from corruption)" Quran 15:19.

This verse is a challenge to mankind. It is cleat=r fact that more than 1400 years have passed and not a single word of this Qur'an has been changed, even though disbelievers tried their utmost to change it, but they failed miserably in their efforts.

SO be our guest!

On the contrary, all the other books (Torah, Psalms, Gospel etc) have been changed.



Alphdoti,

Sorry to bring this up again but you invited me. Now you are gone after I have honored your invitation?

Do you need reinforcement? A wing-man? Its not my fault that Guru is bogged down in Iraq with Isis.
AlphDoti
#192 Posted : Tuesday, July 01, 2014 5:30:28 PM
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Muriel wrote:
AlphDoti wrote:

@muriel, you can try this. This challenge has not been given today, it was given 1400 ago. "No doubt We have sent down the Qur'an and surely We will guard it (from corruption)" Quran 15:19.

This verse is a challenge to mankind. It is cleat=r fact that more than 1400 years have passed and not a single word of this Qur'an has been changed, even though disbelievers tried their utmost to change it, but they failed miserably in their efforts.

SO be our guest!

On the contrary, all the other books (Torah, Psalms, Gospel etc) have been changed.

Alphdoti,

Sorry to bring this up again but you invited me. Now you are gone after I have honored your invitation?

Do you need reinforcement? A wing-man? Its not my fault that Guru is bogged down in Iraq with Isis.

@muriel, yes I don't mind. i pray to Allah guide you to truth, may your eyes see, uiur ears hear, and your heart soft, ameen!

Please ask @lonest! to read my post #190. He made allegations. I corrected him. He needs to acknowledge the clarification. That's all.
AlphDoti
#193 Posted : Tuesday, July 01, 2014 11:36:35 PM
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Muriel wrote:
kamundu wrote:
@Muriel....I didnt Know this....im quite informed now...Thanks!
At the end of it all, even with all this sinister editions...the name of our Lord Jesus Christ is still beinf spread.
Ive heard stories of guys who read Gideons bible...the kasmall one...and became Christians
Sasa ill take my KJV more seriously

Personally I started with the NIV. I still have it. I used to mark and make notes all over it, you know, the key points till it was 'falling apart'. (A smart alec quote I have not forgotten is the bible is bread for daily use not cake for special occasions)

I have not thrown it away, I still use it for reference and comparison. they are both now falling apart, lol.

But there are certain things I now know that I could not have known had someone not thrown a spanner in my NIV study works as it were.

@muriel, what do you know now, which you couldn't have known if someone had not thrown in some spanners?
Lolest!
#194 Posted : Wednesday, July 02, 2014 8:52:35 AM
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WC takes a break today

We'll be back to the dance today evening.

Good day to you all.
Laughing out loudly smile Applause d'oh! Sad Drool Liar Shame on you Pray
Muriel
#195 Posted : Wednesday, July 02, 2014 8:53:07 AM
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AlphDoti wrote:
Muriel wrote:
kamundu wrote:
@Muriel....I didnt Know this....im quite informed now...Thanks!
At the end of it all, even with all this sinister editions...the name of our Lord Jesus Christ is still beinf spread.
Ive heard stories of guys who read Gideons bible...the kasmall one...and became Christians
Sasa ill take my KJV more seriously

Personally I started with the NIV. I still have it. I used to mark and make notes all over it, you know, the key points till it was 'falling apart'. (A smart alec quote I have not forgotten is the bible is bread for daily use not cake for special occasions)

I have not thrown it away, I still use it for reference and comparison. they are both now falling apart, lol.

But there are certain things I now know that I could not have known had someone not thrown a spanner in my NIV study works as it were.

@muriel, what do you know now, which you couldn't have known if someone had not thrown in some spanners?


Daniel. I also did not know what you do not know below. Do you want to know what I now know?

AlphDoti wrote:

I have no much knowledge about Daniel. Daniel is not mentioned in the Quran.

The prophets mentioned by name in the Quran are 24, amongst the more than 124,000 Prophets God sent to the earth over time.

God says in Quran 4:163-165:
163 We have sent thee (O Mohamed) inspiration as We sent it to Noah, and the Messengers after him;
We sent inspiration to Abraham, Ismail, Isaac, Jacob, and the Tribes to Jesus, Job, Jonah, Aaron, and Solomon, and to David We gave the Psalms.
164 Of some Apostles We have already told thee the story; of others We have not; and to Moses Allah spoke direct.
Apostles who gave good news as well as warning,
that mankind after (the coming) of the Apostles should have no plea against Allah: for Allah is Exalted in Power Wise.

I knew Daniel in the Bible as a Prophet of God to the Israelites.

So since Daniel is not mentioned by name in the Quran, and prophet Muhammad (pbuh) did not mention his name, I cannot confirm nor deny his Prophethood.

Also, there is no name for Daniel in the Arabic language. We have other names in Arabic
Yusuf for Joseph,
Yaqoob for Jacob
Ayyub for Job, etc

Muriel
#196 Posted : Wednesday, July 02, 2014 9:02:33 AM
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Lolest! wrote:
WC takes a break today

We'll be back to the dance today evening.

Good day to you all.



Lolest,

I have been requested to request you to to read post #190 and to acknowledge the clarification that has been made.

Please acknowledge receipt of that communication, so that you do not end up in confusion, Babylon. The discussion will not proceed until you do so.

Thank you.
Lolest!
#197 Posted : Wednesday, July 02, 2014 9:46:12 AM
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Muriel wrote:
Lolest! wrote:
WC takes a break today

We'll be back to the dance today evening.

Good day to you all.



Lolest,

I have been requested to request you to to read post #190 and to acknowledge the clarification that has been made.

Please acknowledge receipt of that communication, so that you do not end up in confusion, Babylon. The discussion will not proceed until you do so.

Thank you.

I see some discombobulation already!
Laughing out loudly smile Applause d'oh! Sad Drool Liar Shame on you Pray
AlphDoti
#198 Posted : Wednesday, July 02, 2014 9:57:40 AM
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@muriel I've remembered my reply as regards Daniel. Now you can tell me what you didn't know. I would like to know.
Muriel
#199 Posted : Wednesday, July 02, 2014 10:44:14 AM
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Lolest! wrote:
Muriel wrote:
Lolest! wrote:
WC takes a break today

We'll be back to the dance today evening.

Good day to you all.



Lolest,

I have been requested to request you to to read post #190 and to acknowledge the clarification that has been made.

Please acknowledge receipt of that communication, so that you do not end up in confusion, Babylon. The discussion will not proceed until you do so.

Thank you.

I see some discombobulation already!


Laugh
Laugh
Laugh

You drive a hard bargain. You don't give an inch, even one concession, to Alphdoti. I now see the tough dance you compelled Alphdoti to have. lol. Poor Alphdoti this evening.
Muriel
#200 Posted : Wednesday, July 02, 2014 10:50:49 AM
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AlphDoti wrote:
@muriel I've remembered my reply as regards Daniel. Now you can tell me what you didn't know. I would like to know.


He was a prophet.

He prophesied some things that historians tell us indeed happened exactly as he foretold them. Are you still interested in knowing what he foretold and what happened?

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