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That was a nice try about the quranic confusion of Mary, Jesus' mother, and Miriam, Moses' sister But that is not the only historical error. In a book supposedly coming from God. Containing the very words of God. Surah 20 records: Quote:"[Moses] said, "O Aaron, what prevented you, when you saw them going astray, from following me? Then have you disobeyed my order?" [Aaron] said, "O son of my mother, do not seize [me] by my beard or by my head. Indeed, I feared that you would say, 'You caused division among the Children of Israel, and you did not observe [or await] my word.'" [Moses] said, "And what is your case, O Samaritan?" Who were the Samaritans?They were a mixed race group made up of the remnants of the northern kingdom of Israel who were not carried to captivity and immigrants. It came up looong after Israel had settled in Canaan, had judges, then kings, then had a split in kingdoms and the second kingdom was conquered by the Assyrians This Samaritan group, named after the town of Samaria could not have been in existence in the time of Musa! Muhammad wrote his confusions and even messed on historical accounts!
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Rank: Elder Joined: 10/4/2006 Posts: 13,823 Location: Nairobi
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Lolest! wrote:That was a nice try about the quranic confusion of Mary, Jesus' mother, and Miriam, Moses' sister But that is not the only historical error. In a book supposedly coming from God. Containing the very words of God. Surah 20 records: Quote:"[Moses] said, "O Aaron, what prevented you, when you saw them going astray, from following me? Then have you disobeyed my order?" [Aaron] said, "O son of my mother, do not seize [me] by my beard or by my head. Indeed, I feared that you would say, 'You caused division among the Children of Israel, and you did not observe [or await] my word.'" [Moses] said, "And what is your case, O Samaritan?" Who were the Samaritans? They were a mixed race group made up of the remnants of the northern kingdom of Israel who were not carried to captivity and immigrants. It came up looong after Israel had settled in Canaan, had judges, then kings, then had a split in kingdoms and the second kingdom was conquered by the Assyrians This Samaritan group, named after the town of Samaria could not have been in existence in the time of Musa! Muhammad wrote his confusions and even messed on historical accounts! yeah... Samaritans were remnants of the northern kingdom after the partitioning of Israel. at least that is what the bible tells us. All Mushrooms are edible! Some Mushroom are only edible ONCE!
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Rank: Elder Joined: 7/1/2011 Posts: 8,804 Location: Nairobi
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symbols wrote:tycho wrote:@symbols, today I was thinking; something is true to the extent of its timeline.
Now, I realized that the Christian timeline ended with the fall of the Roman empire, and that of Islam with Mohammed's death. After that, it has been confusion and the emergence of the 'new world order'. If today I paint a wall green and a year later I paint it purple,it still remains true that it was green at one point. In the case of Christianity and Islam,the passage of time will only highlight whether they were false from the beginning. The passage of time is shifting of timelines. The comparison and study of timelines creates knowledge. These truths belong to a different timeline, not the previous timeline. For example, the Ptolemaic and the Copernican systems. The former is true in its timeline and false in the latter timeline. a+b = a+b
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Rank: Elder Joined: 3/19/2013 Posts: 2,552
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tycho wrote:symbols wrote:tycho wrote:@symbols, today I was thinking; something is true to the extent of its timeline.
Now, I realized that the Christian timeline ended with the fall of the Roman empire, and that of Islam with Mohammed's death. After that, it has been confusion and the emergence of the 'new world order'. If today I paint a wall green and a year later I paint it purple,it still remains true that it was green at one point. In the case of Christianity and Islam,the passage of time will only highlight whether they were false from the beginning. The passage of time is shifting of timelines. The comparison and study of timelines creates knowledge. These truths belong to a different timeline, not the previous timeline. For example, the Ptolemaic and the Copernican systems. The former is true in its timeline and false in the latter timeline. a+b = a+b I think what you're trying to say is because people believed the world was flat in that timeline it is truth to that timeline.If that's the case,then it was false then and it is false now.
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Rank: Elder Joined: 7/1/2011 Posts: 8,804 Location: Nairobi
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symbols wrote:tycho wrote:symbols wrote:tycho wrote:@symbols, today I was thinking; something is true to the extent of its timeline.
Now, I realized that the Christian timeline ended with the fall of the Roman empire, and that of Islam with Mohammed's death. After that, it has been confusion and the emergence of the 'new world order'. If today I paint a wall green and a year later I paint it purple,it still remains true that it was green at one point. In the case of Christianity and Islam,the passage of time will only highlight whether they were false from the beginning. The passage of time is shifting of timelines. The comparison and study of timelines creates knowledge. These truths belong to a different timeline, not the previous timeline. For example, the Ptolemaic and the Copernican systems. The former is true in its timeline and false in the latter timeline. a+b = a+b I think what you're trying to say is because people believed the world was flat in that timeline it is truth to that timeline.If that's the case,then it was false then and it is false now. For example, Aristotle belongs to the Ptolemaic system, Bertrand Russell in the Copernican. Who between the two is true or false? The verdict you've given has a bias that the Copernican is true; but there might be another cosmology coming up! Knowledge is always changing. 'Truth' always transmuting.
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Rank: Elder Joined: 3/19/2013 Posts: 2,552
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tycho wrote:symbols wrote:tycho wrote:symbols wrote:tycho wrote:@symbols, today I was thinking; something is true to the extent of its timeline.
Now, I realized that the Christian timeline ended with the fall of the Roman empire, and that of Islam with Mohammed's death. After that, it has been confusion and the emergence of the 'new world order'. If today I paint a wall green and a year later I paint it purple,it still remains true that it was green at one point. In the case of Christianity and Islam,the passage of time will only highlight whether they were false from the beginning. The passage of time is shifting of timelines. The comparison and study of timelines creates knowledge. These truths belong to a different timeline, not the previous timeline. For example, the Ptolemaic and the Copernican systems. The former is true in its timeline and false in the latter timeline. a+b = a+b I think what you're trying to say is because people believed the world was flat in that timeline it is truth to that timeline.If that's the case,then it was false then and it is false now. For example, Aristotle belongs to the Ptolemaic system, Bertrand Russell in the Copernican. Who between the two is true or false? The verdict you've given has a bias that the Copernican is true; but there might be another cosmology coming up! Knowledge is always changing. 'Truth' always transmuting. No it isn't and I don't have any bias.A change in knowledge only confirms if something was true or false.
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Rank: Elder Joined: 7/1/2011 Posts: 8,804 Location: Nairobi
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symbols wrote:tycho wrote:symbols wrote:tycho wrote:symbols wrote:tycho wrote:@symbols, today I was thinking; something is true to the extent of its timeline.
Now, I realized that the Christian timeline ended with the fall of the Roman empire, and that of Islam with Mohammed's death. After that, it has been confusion and the emergence of the 'new world order'. If today I paint a wall green and a year later I paint it purple,it still remains true that it was green at one point. In the case of Christianity and Islam,the passage of time will only highlight whether they were false from the beginning. The passage of time is shifting of timelines. The comparison and study of timelines creates knowledge. These truths belong to a different timeline, not the previous timeline. For example, the Ptolemaic and the Copernican systems. The former is true in its timeline and false in the latter timeline. a+b = a+b I think what you're trying to say is because people believed the world was flat in that timeline it is truth to that timeline.If that's the case,then it was false then and it is false now. For example, Aristotle belongs to the Ptolemaic system, Bertrand Russell in the Copernican. Who between the two is true or false? The verdict you've given has a bias that the Copernican is true; but there might be another cosmology coming up! Knowledge is always changing. 'Truth' always transmuting. No it isn't and I don't have any bias.A change in knowledge only confirms if something was true or false. On the contrary! Look at it carefully. First comes x is true. Then later, not x; y. Therefore y is true. Then later, Z. The change from x to y doesn't necessarily confirm y as true or x false; more often than not, the confirmation is of change of social conditions. Example: Aborigine belief in 'dream time' has been declared false before, but quantum physics may affirm it.
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Rank: Elder Joined: 3/19/2013 Posts: 2,552
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tycho wrote:symbols wrote:tycho wrote:symbols wrote:tycho wrote:symbols wrote:tycho wrote:@symbols, today I was thinking; something is true to the extent of its timeline.
Now, I realized that the Christian timeline ended with the fall of the Roman empire, and that of Islam with Mohammed's death. After that, it has been confusion and the emergence of the 'new world order'. If today I paint a wall green and a year later I paint it purple,it still remains true that it was green at one point. In the case of Christianity and Islam,the passage of time will only highlight whether they were false from the beginning. The passage of time is shifting of timelines. The comparison and study of timelines creates knowledge. These truths belong to a different timeline, not the previous timeline. For example, the Ptolemaic and the Copernican systems. The former is true in its timeline and false in the latter timeline. a+b = a+b I think what you're trying to say is because people believed the world was flat in that timeline it is truth to that timeline.If that's the case,then it was false then and it is false now. For example, Aristotle belongs to the Ptolemaic system, Bertrand Russell in the Copernican. Who between the two is true or false? The verdict you've given has a bias that the Copernican is true; but there might be another cosmology coming up! Knowledge is always changing. 'Truth' always transmuting. No it isn't and I don't have any bias.A change in knowledge only confirms if something was true or false. On the contrary! Look at it carefully. First comes x is true. Then later, not x; y. Therefore y is true. Then later, Z. The change from x to y doesn't necessarily confirm y as true or x false; more often than not, the confirmation is of change of social conditions. Example: Aborigine belief in 'dream time' has been declared false before, but quantum physics may affirm it. X,Y and Z are true or they(individually) are false.'Dream time' is either true or false.The knowledge brought by quantum physics only confirms or denies it.
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Rank: Elder Joined: 7/1/2011 Posts: 8,804 Location: Nairobi
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symbols wrote:tycho wrote:symbols wrote:tycho wrote:symbols wrote:tycho wrote:symbols wrote:tycho wrote:@symbols, today I was thinking; something is true to the extent of its timeline.
Now, I realized that the Christian timeline ended with the fall of the Roman empire, and that of Islam with Mohammed's death. After that, it has been confusion and the emergence of the 'new world order'. If today I paint a wall green and a year later I paint it purple,it still remains true that it was green at one point. In the case of Christianity and Islam,the passage of time will only highlight whether they were false from the beginning. The passage of time is shifting of timelines. The comparison and study of timelines creates knowledge. These truths belong to a different timeline, not the previous timeline. For example, the Ptolemaic and the Copernican systems. The former is true in its timeline and false in the latter timeline. a+b = a+b I think what you're trying to say is because people believed the world was flat in that timeline it is truth to that timeline.If that's the case,then it was false then and it is false now. For example, Aristotle belongs to the Ptolemaic system, Bertrand Russell in the Copernican. Who between the two is true or false? The verdict you've given has a bias that the Copernican is true; but there might be another cosmology coming up! Knowledge is always changing. 'Truth' always transmuting. No it isn't and I don't have any bias.A change in knowledge only confirms if something was true or false. On the contrary! Look at it carefully. First comes x is true. Then later, not x; y. Therefore y is true. Then later, Z. The change from x to y doesn't necessarily confirm y as true or x false; more often than not, the confirmation is of change of social conditions. Example: Aborigine belief in 'dream time' has been declared false before, but quantum physics may affirm it. X,Y and Z are true or they(individually) are false.'Dream time' is either true or false.The knowledge brought by quantum physics only confirms or denies it. Not 'or', 'and'. Look at the progression carefully. Quantum physics isn't complete as we are speaking. It's under confirmation.
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Rank: Elder Joined: 3/19/2013 Posts: 2,552
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tycho wrote:symbols wrote:tycho wrote:symbols wrote:tycho wrote:symbols wrote:tycho wrote:symbols wrote:tycho wrote:@symbols, today I was thinking; something is true to the extent of its timeline.
Now, I realized that the Christian timeline ended with the fall of the Roman empire, and that of Islam with Mohammed's death. After that, it has been confusion and the emergence of the 'new world order'. If today I paint a wall green and a year later I paint it purple,it still remains true that it was green at one point. In the case of Christianity and Islam,the passage of time will only highlight whether they were false from the beginning. The passage of time is shifting of timelines. The comparison and study of timelines creates knowledge. These truths belong to a different timeline, not the previous timeline. For example, the Ptolemaic and the Copernican systems. The former is true in its timeline and false in the latter timeline. a+b = a+b I think what you're trying to say is because people believed the world was flat in that timeline it is truth to that timeline.If that's the case,then it was false then and it is false now. For example, Aristotle belongs to the Ptolemaic system, Bertrand Russell in the Copernican. Who between the two is true or false? The verdict you've given has a bias that the Copernican is true; but there might be another cosmology coming up! Knowledge is always changing. 'Truth' always transmuting. No it isn't and I don't have any bias.A change in knowledge only confirms if something was true or false. On the contrary! Look at it carefully. First comes x is true. Then later, not x; y. Therefore y is true. Then later, Z. The change from x to y doesn't necessarily confirm y as true or x false; more often than not, the confirmation is of change of social conditions. Example: Aborigine belief in 'dream time' has been declared false before, but quantum physics may affirm it. X,Y and Z are true or they(individually) are false.'Dream time' is either true or false.The knowledge brought by quantum physics only confirms or denies it. Not 'or', 'and'. Look at the progression carefully. Quantum physics isn't complete as we are speaking. It's under confirmation. It is simple.Whether society perceives it differently and/or knowledge is incomplete doesn't change it from being true or false.The laws of physics don't change because we perceived them differently and/or our knowledge is incomplete.
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