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kamundu wrote:@tycho, because we do see it with our human eye.... And because not many people 'know it'.
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AlphDoti wrote:symbols wrote: 1.Thank you for the link to the hadiths.We've established your two Islamic sources.I assume no other sources have been approved for use?
2.You didn't answer why you use KJV.Why and when is it appropriate or inappropriate for use? Also,how do you distinguish what is from God and what is not without referencing Islamic sources?
3.Where did @guru respond to me? Care to explain what she said and where it came from.Where is @guru or Islam getting the understanding of the beast from and what does it say?
1. There are two Islamic sources; the Qur'an and authentic Hadiths (Sahih Bukhari). 2. Why I use KJV? I use it to respond to any Christian issue. I happen to own a copy of KJV. When is it appropriate? In the Bible there are three words: a) the word of God, (b) the word of prophet of God, and (c) the word of historian. 3. Let us wait for @guru to respond about the issue of beast. I'm handling too many of you already here  You use it to respond to Christian issues.So the word of God in the bible is Christian?What is the word of God and His prophets in the bible and how did you come to that conclusion(like I had asked without using Islamic sources)? You're handling to many of us?Hmmmm.
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Rank: Elder Joined: 6/20/2008 Posts: 6,275 Location: Kenya
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Muriel wrote:kamundu wrote:@tycho, because we do see it with our human eye.... And because not many people 'know it'. @kamundu, you're on the right path now, recognizig that these 'hidden' forces try to mislead you. Now what eye do you need to see the below? @muriel, and do you know the below now? AlphDoti wrote:kamundu wrote:AlphDoti wrote:Lolest! wrote:Interpretation is always the big issue. Even when you have 1 code in 1 language, you wont all agree. Which is why some of you Muslims subscribe to contractual prostitution while others don't! Leave interpretation issue first. Let us take clear English statements which does not even Holy Spirit to understand. History has shown that Bible has suffered changes throughout the ages. As I mentioned earlier, RSV version 1952 & 1971. The New American Standard Bible and the New World Translation of the Holy Scriptures have expunged certain verses compare with King James Version. Some years back Christian theologians wanted to "desex" the Bible... so on and on. Let me ask you two questions: 1. Are sure that the Bible is holy? 2. Does "holy" means it's God's Word and that the Bible is free from error? So.... Which verses in particular verses have been expunged from these versions? @alphadoti? @kamundu you didn't know? I'll give you one of them.  ...  This verse is now accepted as an " insertion" by the Church later. What has happened now? All recent versions of the Bible, such as the Revised Standard Version, the New Revised Standard Version, the New American Standard Bible ... etc. have all expunged this verse from their pages without ceremony! Why is this? Any Christian to explain to us?
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Rank: Member Joined: 11/19/2009 Posts: 3,142
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AlphDoti wrote:symbols wrote: 1.Thank you for the link to the hadiths.We've established your two Islamic sources.I assume no other sources have been approved for use?
2.You didn't answer why you use KJV.Why and when is it appropriate or inappropriate for use? Also,how do you distinguish what is from God and what is not without referencing Islamic sources?
3.Where did @guru respond to me? Care to explain what she said and where it came from.Where is @guru or Islam getting the understanding of the beast from and what does it say?
1. There are two Islamic sources; the Qur'an and authentic Hadiths (Sahih Bukhari). 2. Why I use KJV? I use it to respond to any Christian issue. I happen to own a copy of KJV. When is it appropriate? In the Bible there are three words: a) the word of God, (b) the word of prophet of God, and (c) the word of historian. 3. Let us wait for @guru to respond about the issue of beast. I'm handling too many of you already here  (c) the word of the historian ,,,,,,,, Tell me, Dear Alphdoti, you have not happened to see some 'Sola Scriptura' phrase sticking out somewhere around here in Wazua? For a truth surely I have seen it!!!!!!!!
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Rank: Elder Joined: 6/20/2008 Posts: 6,275 Location: Kenya
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symbols wrote:AlphDoti wrote:symbols wrote: 1.Thank you for the link to the hadiths.We've established your two Islamic sources.I assume no other sources have been approved for use?
2.You didn't answer why you use KJV.Why and when is it appropriate or inappropriate for use? Also,how do you distinguish what is from God and what is not without referencing Islamic sources?
3.Where did @guru respond to me? Care to explain what she said and where it came from.Where is @guru or Islam getting the understanding of the beast from and what does it say?
1. There are two Islamic sources; the Qur'an and authentic Hadiths (Sahih Bukhari). 2. Why I use KJV? I use it to respond to any Christian issue. I happen to own a copy of KJV. When is it appropriate? In the Bible there are three words: a) the word of God, (b) the word of prophet of God, and (c) the word of historian. 3. Let us wait for @guru to respond about the issue of beast. I'm handling too many of you already here  You use it to respond to Christian issues.So the word of God in the bible is Christian? What is the word of God and His prophets in the bible and how did you come to that conclusion(like I had asked without using Islamic sources)? You're handling to many of us?Hmmmm. Because I'm using the Qur'an as standard. You can explain the Bible and correct the Jewish and Christian prejudice with the context of the Qur'an. The Qur'an is the last revealed Book which has never been corrupted or adulterated. Its content have been guaranteed by God Almighty in surah 2:2 " This is the Scripture whereof there is no doubt...". On the contrary, all the other holy books (Torah, Psalms, Gospel etc) have been adulterated in the form of additions, deletions, or alterations from the original, by the 'hidden' forces as told by @Kamundu.
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Rank: Elder Joined: 6/20/2008 Posts: 6,275 Location: Kenya
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Muriel wrote:AlphDoti wrote:symbols wrote: 1.Thank you for the link to the hadiths.We've established your two Islamic sources.I assume no other sources have been approved for use?
2.You didn't answer why you use KJV.Why and when is it appropriate or inappropriate for use? Also,how do you distinguish what is from God and what is not without referencing Islamic sources?
3.Where did @guru respond to me? Care to explain what she said and where it came from.Where is @guru or Islam getting the understanding of the beast from and what does it say?
1. There are two Islamic sources; the Qur'an and authentic Hadiths (Sahih Bukhari). 2. Why I use KJV? I use it to respond to any Christian issue. I happen to own a copy of KJV. When is it appropriate? In the Bible there are three words: a) the word of God, (b) the word of prophet of God, and (c) the word of historian. 3. Let us wait for @guru to respond about the issue of beast. I'm handling too many of you already here  (c) the word of the historian ,,,,,,,, Tell me, Dear Alphdoti, you have not happened to see some 'Sola Scriptura' phrase sticking out somewhere around here in Wazua? For a truth surely I have seen it!!!!!!!! @muriel focus. Put this on the safe, produce it after you have responded to other pending quesries from me. See previous threads.
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Rank: Member Joined: 11/19/2009 Posts: 3,142
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AlphDoti wrote:Muriel wrote:kamundu wrote:@tycho, because we do see it with our human eye.... And because not many people 'know it'. @kamundu, you're on the right path now, recognizig that these 'hidden' forces try to mislead you. Now what eye do you need to see the below? @muriel, and do you know the below now? Why is this? Any Christian to explain to us? I said you have a point (a point) please do not turn it to be The Point. That is why I said, if they use the NASB they will be hard pressed to defend and logically the only thing left will be to become "muslims" who deny and relegate the same. So I hope you now see that what I have said (#31) ties in nicely with what you have said (#17) and with what Kamundu has just said in post #85. Which means you have been answered and explained to that question you raised.
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Rank: Member Joined: 11/19/2009 Posts: 3,142
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AlphDoti wrote:Muriel wrote:AlphDoti wrote:symbols wrote: 1.Thank you for the link to the hadiths.We've established your two Islamic sources.I assume no other sources have been approved for use?
2.You didn't answer why you use KJV.Why and when is it appropriate or inappropriate for use? Also,how do you distinguish what is from God and what is not without referencing Islamic sources?
3.Where did @guru respond to me? Care to explain what she said and where it came from.Where is @guru or Islam getting the understanding of the beast from and what does it say?
1. There are two Islamic sources; the Qur'an and authentic Hadiths (Sahih Bukhari). 2. Why I use KJV? I use it to respond to any Christian issue. I happen to own a copy of KJV. When is it appropriate? In the Bible there are three words: a) the word of God, (b) the word of prophet of God, and (c) the word of historian. 3. Let us wait for @guru to respond about the issue of beast. I'm handling too many of you already here  (c) the word of the historian ,,,,,,,, Tell me, Dear Alphdoti, you have not happened to see some 'Sola Scriptura' phrase sticking out somewhere around here in Wazua? For a truth surely I have seen it!!!!!!!! @muriel focus. Put this on the safe, produce it after you have responded to other pending quesries from me. See previous threads. Laugh Laugh Laugh My nuance is lost! Who will explain to dear Alphdoti what this is about? Laugh Laugh Laugh
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@alphadoti, im still waiting for you to tell me what else has been "expunged" Peace in our Homeland.
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Rank: Elder Joined: 6/20/2008 Posts: 6,275 Location: Kenya
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kamundu wrote:@alphadoti, im still waiting for you to tell me what else has been "expunged" @kamundu, you're still waiting for another? How many did I say I'll give you? Why do you need another? What have you done about the one I've given you?
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