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Impunity
#71 Posted : Tuesday, June 24, 2014 5:01:18 PM
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Joined: 3/2/2009
Posts: 26,331
Location: Masada
Swenani wrote:
Impunity wrote:
Vallerrie wrote:
I honestly don't get how people here are encouraging debt, like, in which world is drowning in debt a good thing?
I may be naive but I actually like owning my money Laughing out loudly


@vallo, leave them alone, its like trying to milk a rock... most of them have not experienced organism so they dont have anything to compare the freedom of debt-free with!

By the way how do you enjoy your sleeps? Compare and contrast with them days you had those SACCO loans!
You are a great woman indeed.

smile

Can you get orgasm/organism by eating dead fish?


Siyui

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Portfolio: Sold
You know you've made it when you get a parking space for your yatcht.

Vallerrie
#72 Posted : Tuesday, June 24, 2014 5:02:48 PM
Rank: Member

Joined: 11/1/2012
Posts: 290
Impunity wrote:
Vallerrie wrote:
I honestly don't get how people here are encouraging debt, like, in which world is drowning in debt a good thing?
I may be naive but I actually like owning my money Laughing out loudly


@vallo, leave them alone, its like trying to milk a rock... most of them have not experienced organism so they dont have anything to compare the freedom of debt-free with!

By the way how do you enjoy your sleeps? Compare and contrast with them days you had those SACCO loans!
You are a great woman indeed.

smile


Don't worry, I get you, nowadays I sleep like a baby smile
Impunity
#73 Posted : Tuesday, June 24, 2014 5:07:45 PM
Rank: Elder

Joined: 3/2/2009
Posts: 26,331
Location: Masada
Vallerrie wrote:
Impunity wrote:
Vallerrie wrote:
I honestly don't get how people here are encouraging debt, like, in which world is drowning in debt a good thing?
I may be naive but I actually like owning my money Laughing out loudly


@vallo, leave them alone, its like trying to milk a rock... most of them have not experienced organism so they dont have anything to compare the freedom of debt-free with!

By the way how do you enjoy your sleeps? Compare and contrast with them days you had those SACCO loans!
You are a great woman indeed.

smile


Don't worry, I get you, nowadays I sleep like a baby smile


I'm glad I managed this status at my current age.
I hope you too are "this young"!
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Portfolio: Sold
You know you've made it when you get a parking space for your yatcht.

McReggae
#74 Posted : Tuesday, June 24, 2014 5:10:16 PM
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Joined: 6/17/2008
Posts: 23,365
Location: Nairobi
Yaani hii debt free @ladyadmin hakupeleka huko kwingine? Kweli hii ni ya club SK!!!!
..."Wewe ni mtu mdogo sana....na mwenye amekuandika pia ni mtu mdogo sana!".
Intelligentsia
#75 Posted : Tuesday, June 24, 2014 5:22:06 PM
Rank: Elder

Joined: 10/1/2009
Posts: 2,436
Quote:
People can get rich either through careful borrowing or by saving and continually investing.



Now there I agree.
Impunity
#76 Posted : Tuesday, June 24, 2014 5:22:20 PM
Rank: Elder

Joined: 3/2/2009
Posts: 26,331
Location: Masada
McReggae wrote:
Yaani hii debt free @ladyadmin hakupeleka huko kwingine? Kweli hii ni ya club SK!!!!


Wewe wacha zako, sasa unataka chokoza @lady admin for no apparent reason!

Shame on you Shame on you Shame on you
Portfolio: Sold
You know you've made it when you get a parking space for your yatcht.

McReggae
#77 Posted : Tuesday, June 24, 2014 5:29:59 PM
Rank: Elder

Joined: 6/17/2008
Posts: 23,365
Location: Nairobi
Impunity wrote:
McReggae wrote:
Yaani hii debt free @ladyadmin hakupeleka huko kwingine? Kweli hii ni ya club SK!!!!


Wewe wacha zako, sasa unataka chokoza @lady admin for no apparent reason!

Shame on you Shame on you Shame on you


Yaani unatuambia vile umamaliza debt na haoni.....
..."Wewe ni mtu mdogo sana....na mwenye amekuandika pia ni mtu mdogo sana!".
tycho
#78 Posted : Tuesday, June 24, 2014 5:57:08 PM
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Joined: 7/1/2011
Posts: 8,804
Location: Nairobi
Intelligentsia wrote:
Quote:
People can get rich either through careful borrowing or by saving and continually investing.



Now there I agree.


The argument can't be true. If saving is turned to investment without innovation and technological advancement then wealth can't be created or increased. In fact, the economy will stagnate.

And if there's to be growth in surpluses then there must be quantum leaps in capital infusion, meaning borrowing.

People can get rich only if they maintain an optimum level that maintains a balance of payment where credit is greater than zero.

Intelligentsia
#79 Posted : Tuesday, June 24, 2014 6:47:39 PM
Rank: Elder

Joined: 10/1/2009
Posts: 2,436
tycho wrote:
Intelligentsia wrote:
Quote:
People can get rich either through careful borrowing or by saving and continually investing.



Now there I agree.


The argument can't be true. If saving is turned to investment without innovation and technological advancement then wealth can't be created or increased. In fact, the economy will stagnate.

And if there's to be growth in surpluses then there must be quantum leaps in capital infusion, meaning borrowing.

People can get rich only if they maintain an optimum level that maintains a balance of payment where credit is greater than zero.



@tycho... you are missing the point by several galaxies.
The point of departure is not about what or the process the wealth/svings/capital will be transformed (i.e whether innovation or through tech.) but rather the SOURCE of that wealth: ergo, to borrow or to build up capital from savings?

Either can do. I know many companies/ indivs who have grown organically and are very debt-shy.
Recall Warren Buffet, personal wealth estimated at $60B, hardly borrowed and yet has the wherewithal to singlehandedly fund Kenya's Free Primary Education for a financial year.

Others who have used debt prudently have also experienced quantum leaps in all their financial parameters - top line, bottom line, ROE,ROA, market share, cost-to-income ratio, the works.

For @ Impunity, this Tip No 6 from 10 Ways To Get Rich will resonate with you:

6. Limit What You Borrow: Living on credit cards and loans won't make you rich. Warren Buffett has never borrowed a significant amount -- not to invest, not for a mortgage. He has gotten many heart-rendering letters from people who thought their borrowing was manageable but became overwhelmed by debt. His advice: Negotiate with creditors to pay what you can. Then, when you're debt-free, work on saving some money that you can use to invest.
http://www.warrenbuffett...tt-10-ways-to-get-rich/
nakujua
#80 Posted : Tuesday, June 24, 2014 7:17:01 PM
Rank: Elder

Joined: 12/17/2009
Posts: 3,583
Location: Kenya
McReggae wrote:
Impunity wrote:
McReggae wrote:
Yaani hii debt free @ladyadmin hakupeleka huko kwingine? Kweli hii ni ya club SK!!!!


Wewe wacha zako, sasa unataka chokoza @lady admin for no apparent reason!

Shame on you Shame on you Shame on you


Yaani unatuambia vile umamaliza debt na haoni.....

I have noticed that the lady admin is slowly trying to impact some financial education to the hustlers, who spend the whole day in the market adjusting goggles. smile
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