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Over 50pc of EA graduates half-baked
nakujua
#31 Posted : Thursday, June 19, 2014 7:04:24 PM
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mkeiy wrote:

@washiku. When employers say graduates are half-baked, they mean they are not the finished product.

You see, after years in university, you should be able to communicate, know how to spell, know how to solve basic work-related hitches. How can i employ you as an assistant, then go on spelling every other word to you? HOW? Keep on showing you how to use Microsoft Excel, yet a are a graduate in B.Com accounting option, with several computing certificates with spreadsheet on all of them?

In short, be of meaningful use to the employer.

If you have done accounts but cannot solve simple mathematical problems, there's trouble. A graduate who doesn't know South Africa's currency, there is trouble. Doesn't know where Switzerland is [continent-wise], there's trouble.

Biggest TROUBLE of them all, they don't seem to know that they are employed to work. They are more interested in showing up at work place and behaving as if they are doing you favors by WORKING.

I think the youth stopped thinking with the advent of private universities and para. I mean, how can you be working for a bank or foreign affairs ministry and know less than a layman? HOW?

Compare current graduates and those of 80s and early 90s. Those guys know virtually everything.

All the above is from personal experience.


hapo umesema ukweli, the curriculum in most schools is outdated and the student come into the workforce armed with a head which is fully and properly stuffed with content that was relevant in the 60's and 70's.
murchr
#32 Posted : Thursday, June 19, 2014 7:41:58 PM
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@mkei, so the problem is private universities? I think the problem is CHE. Why are accounting exams not in excel?
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kysse
#33 Posted : Thursday, June 19, 2014 9:32:43 PM
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Was trying to explain something concerning Jebel Ali to a graduate,when she paused and asked 'who's Jebel Ali.?
She couldn't even tell the diff btwn an original and a photocopied doc!
Eventually I was forced to ask,OK do you know vera sidika and nishike?

Now where does one begin with this graduate when work interest is 0 and is always on whatssup?
They end up being a liability instead of assets.
nakujua
#34 Posted : Thursday, June 19, 2014 9:40:42 PM
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kysse wrote:
Was trying to explain something concerning Jebel Ali to a graduate,when she paused and asked 'who's jebel ali.?
She couldn't even tell the diff btwn an original and a photocopied doc!
Eventually I was forced to ask,do you know vera sidika and nishike?


smile , enyewe mimi si baked - reading through I was also trying to figure out who Jebel Ali is, had to engage my friend google.

hata huyu nishike mimi sijui yeye, at least lary reduced my rawness concerning sidika.

and how do you differentiate between an original and photocopied one, assuming hakuna signature, or if the signature is in a fine black pen.

vane, hii masomo ni ngumu sasa. smile
dunkang
#35 Posted : Thursday, June 19, 2014 9:47:10 PM
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kysse wrote:
Was trying to explain something concerning Jebel Ali to a graduate,when she paused and asked 'who's jebel ali.?
She couldn't even tell the diff btwn an original and a photocopied doc!
Eventually I was forced to ask,do you know vera sidika and nishike?


Kwani hizi interviews za non-technical courses ni funny aje.

Yaani i can refuse to give a graduate a job because of not knowing where or what Jebel Ali is, yet he can analyse, size and detail a floor slab?

Be realistic, kama hutaki kupatia mtu kazi, wacheni excuses!
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simonkabz
#36 Posted : Thursday, June 19, 2014 10:01:45 PM
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nakujua wrote:
kysse wrote:
Was trying to explain something concerning Jebel Ali to a graduate,when she paused and asked 'who's jebel ali.?
She couldn't even tell the diff btwn an original and a photocopied doc!
Eventually I was forced to ask,do you know vera sidika and nishike?


smile , enyewe mimi si baked - reading through I was also trying to figure out who Jebel Ali is, had to engage my friend google.

hata huyu nishike mimi sijui yeye, at least lary reduced my rawness concerning sidika.

and how do you differentiate between an original and photocopied one, assuming hakuna signature, or if the signature is in a fine black pen.

vane, hii masomo ni ngumu sasa. smile

Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly Kysse has made me feel like a goat!
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kysse
#37 Posted : Thursday, June 19, 2014 10:02:18 PM
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Why kabz???

@dunkang sio interview.
There are basics if one is employed in a certain industry.For instance,you employ me to work in a law firm under a certain capacity halafu sijui 'Pro bono' ni nini or an Accountant who can't tell what debit/credit is.Kitu ka hiyo...
it makes others wonder if your papers are real.


@ nakujua wacha kutuenjoy..
You must be the most learned fellow here,ulifanya malkiat sigh a give up.
See we are KCPE cert holders na tunakushinda.lol.
simonkabz
#38 Posted : Thursday, June 19, 2014 10:11:05 PM
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kysse wrote:
Why kabz???

@dunkang sio interview.
There are basics if one is employed in a certain industry.For instance,you employ me to work in a law firm under a certain capacity halafu sijui 'Pro bono' ni nini or an Accountant who can't tell what debit/credit is.Kitu ka hiyo...
it makes others wonder if your papers are real.


@ nakujua wacha kutuenjoy..
You must be the most learned fellow here,ulifanya malkiat sigh a give up.
See we are KCPE cert holders na tunakushinda.lol.

You hit me with a JUCHE!
TULIA.........UFUNZWE!
kysse
#39 Posted : Thursday, June 19, 2014 10:20:05 PM
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ROFLMAO @ JUCHE.
2012
#40 Posted : Thursday, June 19, 2014 10:20:38 PM
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dunkang wrote:
2012 wrote:
KulaRaha wrote:
Half baked or just raw?


I personally think they are too baked but on outdated stuff and theories. Most of them learn new skills from scratch when employed. But I think KU, JKUAT and Strathmore are doing well.

Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly
Boss, hapo umetereza.

I have worked with graduate and registered civil and agric. engineers from all universities that offer the course, accredited by EBK or not, and i can tell you for free, ITS NOT ABOUT WHICH UNIVERSITY YOU WENT TO, ITS THE INDIVIDUAL'S BIDII YA KUJUA VITU HARAKA HARAKA once employed!

@Nakujua has told us that he/she spent all her time at Moi (or is it Egerton) buying goats, drinking and partying, once employed, he/she refused to learn. Matokeo ni hayo sasa. BEING SACKED AFTER EVERY 6 Months!


I agree with you that it's up to the individual, everything is up to the person but the university matters as well eg. those of you like me who had the honour of attending UON know that nobody fails in UON and the lecturers there show up when they feel like and teach how they feel like but can't have students failing their class because atamulikwa. How can you get quality out of that? But I know their medical school and law are up there.

BBI will solve it
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