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Rank: Veteran Joined: 4/16/2014 Posts: 1,420 Location: Bohemian Grove
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hisah wrote:murchr wrote:Very boring markets....everywhere Sideways, indecision, boring. But lull usually warn of sharp turns ahead i.e. big bull or big selloff. this is the perfect time to take positions depending on one's bias. bear or bull
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Rank: Elder Joined: 7/11/2010 Posts: 5,040
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hisah wrote:murchr wrote:Very boring markets....everywhere Sideways, indecision, boring. But lull usually warn of sharp turns ahead i.e. big bull or big selloff. I prefer bears to flat. at least I can be busy picking up blue chips. The investor's chief problem - and even his worst enemy - is likely to be himself
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Rank: Elder Joined: 2/26/2012 Posts: 15,980
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hisah wrote: murchr wrote: Very boring markets....everywhere Sideways, indecision, boring. But lull usually warn of sharp turns ahead i.e. big bull or big selloff. Am afraid i might doze off and find several ships have sailed off "There are only two emotions in the market, hope & fear. The problem is you hope when you should fear & fear when you should hope: - Jesse Livermore .
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Rank: Veteran Joined: 4/16/2014 Posts: 1,420 Location: Bohemian Grove
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murchr wrote:hisah wrote: murchr wrote: Very boring markets....everywhere Sideways, indecision, boring. But lull usually warn of sharp turns ahead i.e. big bull or big selloff. Am afraid i might doze off and find several ships have sailed off me too.been standing on the sidelines for quite a while now waiting for that graph to resolve itself.
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Rank: Chief Joined: 8/4/2010 Posts: 8,977
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If I read this right sizable hot money is coming soon... http://www.businessdaily.../-/q4nuo4z/-/index.html
See what SEM is shaping up to be in Africa. I have been studying Mauritius tax haven for a while. Following the money has now become more interesting (centum, britam, mayfox etc) - http://www.stockexchange...ius.com/sem-at-a-glance
$15/barrel oil... The commodities lehman moment arrives as well as Sovereign debt volcano!
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Rank: Chief Joined: 8/4/2010 Posts: 8,977
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Vol spike again on KK... $15/barrel oil... The commodities lehman moment arrives as well as Sovereign debt volcano!
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Rank: Elder Joined: 7/21/2010 Posts: 6,182 Location: nairobi
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The news in our screens are not encouraging,i wish we could tone down but nigeria africas economy has more worse news..Aluta continua "Don't let the fear of losing be greater than the excitement of winning."
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Rank: Elder Joined: 2/26/2012 Posts: 15,980
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Seems like Perera bond is a success $3b "There are only two emotions in the market, hope & fear. The problem is you hope when you should fear & fear when you should hope: - Jesse Livermore .
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Rank: Member Joined: 7/17/2011 Posts: 627 Location: Mbui-Nzau, Kikumbulyu
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Marshals having a come back
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Rank: Elder Joined: 12/7/2012 Posts: 11,908
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murchr wrote:Seems like Perera bond is a success $3b Looks good In the business world, everyone is paid in two coins - cash and experience. Take the experience first; the cash will come later - H Geneen
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Rank: Veteran Joined: 4/16/2014 Posts: 1,420 Location: Bohemian Grove
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Angelica _ann wrote:murchr wrote:Seems like Perera bond is a success $3b Looks good great news!
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Rank: Chief Joined: 1/3/2007 Posts: 18,095 Location: Nairobi
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You can get all the subscription you want... it's about the price. The lower the price of the Bond [higher interest rate] the higher the level of interest. Risk/Reward. Even I will buy HAFR at 2/- ... Or Neveready at 1/- ... Why? Coz the reward increases with the risk I take buying HAFR at 2/- vs 5/- ... Greedy when others are fearful. Very fearful when others are greedy - to paraphrase Warren Buffett
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Rank: Elder Joined: 7/11/2010 Posts: 5,040
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hisah wrote:Vol spike again on KK... 12m shares this time. and at a steady price of 9.00 all the time.... The investor's chief problem - and even his worst enemy - is likely to be himself
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Rank: Veteran Joined: 11/15/2013 Posts: 1,977 Location: Here
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Aguytrying wrote:hisah wrote:Vol spike again on KK... 12m shares this time. and at a steady price of 9.00 all the time.... this vol and prices have been here for sometimes . Did you people find out who was exiting? whichever I want to know when and how (EFT or snail mail? ) I'll get my 10cts(full stop) Everybody STEALS, a THIEF is one who's CAUGHT stealing something of LITTLE VALUE. !!!
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Rank: Elder Joined: 2/26/2012 Posts: 15,980
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Angelica _ann wrote:murchr wrote:Seems like Perera bond is a success $3b Looks good $9BN Coupon 6.1% More details should come in later "There are only two emotions in the market, hope & fear. The problem is you hope when you should fear & fear when you should hope: - Jesse Livermore .
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Rank: Chief Joined: 8/4/2010 Posts: 8,977
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Angelica _ann wrote:murchr wrote:Seems like Perera bond is a success $3b Looks good Relieved to see the interest rates at 7% (but still high). At 8% it was madness aka junk bond. The 5yr (6%) & 10yr (7%) mix will spike demand and by final day the oversubscription will be telling. Will gok take more than $2B? The investor interest on the offer ensures the bond will trade well over time.
This trump card has kept NSE & KES steady. Otherwise 2011 nasty shaving would be a preview!
So the puts read eurobond and mauritius exchange. Those will be solid puts that will blow off the 6161 all time high when the lull clears... A lot of crap (paka, olympia etc) will also melt up in the process. $15/barrel oil... The commodities lehman moment arrives as well as Sovereign debt volcano!
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Rank: Elder Joined: 7/21/2010 Posts: 6,182 Location: nairobi
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I like the optimism that 6161pts can be attained. "Don't let the fear of losing be greater than the excitement of winning."
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Rank: Elder Joined: 9/23/2010 Posts: 2,220 Location: Sundowner,Amboseli
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mlennyma wrote:I like the optimism that 6161pts can be attained. That was pure madness then. No wonder since Jan 2007, we are yet to get back there. Reminds me of the 1994 NSE madness that culminated in a high of 5030 on Feb 18th. The market was to later tank and it was only until October 2006 that we got back to 5000 points on the NSE. @SufficientlyP
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Rank: Veteran Joined: 2/10/2010 Posts: 1,001 Location: River Road
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Quote:(By Katrina Manson in Nairobi and Javier Blas in London)
Kenya has raised $2bn from international investors, the largest debut for an African country in the sovereign bond market amid strong demand from pension funds, insurers and sovereign wealth funds seeking higher-yielding assets.
The much-delayed fundraising effort puts Africa on track to beat the record $11bn it raised last year from the international capital markets, after Zambia, Morocco and South Africa also issued bonds in recent months. Investors anticipate that Ghana and Ivory Coast will tap the capital markets before the end of July.
Investors placed orders for more than four times the amount that Nairobi finally raised, suggesting strong appetite for higher risk assets. The strong demand came in spite of a terror attack that killed at least 48 people in Kenya on Sunday night.
Bankers on Monday said the capital raising yielded two notes: a $500m, five-year bond paying an interest rate of 5.875 per cent, and a $1.5bn 10-year note with a yield of 6.875 per cent. The yields were lower than initially thought.
“Kenya’s gotten really, really lucky with the yield, there’s been a humungous rally . . . and there’s very strong global demand for African sovereign paper,” said Aly-Khan Satchu, a Nairobi-based investment manager who bought the bond on behalf of several clients.
He said a rally in Egypt following elections that returned Abdel Fattah al-Sisi to power, combined with the intervention of the International Monetary Fund in ailing Zambia, had turned round Kenya’s prospects.
Officials had initially been nervous they had missed the most opportune window to turn to the international markets once the US Federal Reserve began tapering its bond buying programme, a move likely to send initial repayment rates higher than hoped.
“Basically in comparison to what one would have expected four to six weeks ago, Kenya is looking very attractive at these rates,” said Mr Satchu. “Kenya should say a big thank you to Sisi and Madam Lagarde [the head of the IMF].”
Kenya’s low yields and high investor interest reflect not only lucky timing but also overall growing appetite for exposure to growth in some of the world’s fastest growing frontier markets. Bond funds dedicated to emerging and frontier markets have seen strong inflows recently as pension funds and insurers, sovereign wealth funds and even retail investors search for the higher-yielding securities.
The strong bond debut will boost Kenya’s finance team, which has undergone a rollercoaster roadshow, during which finance minister Henry Rotich had to leave part way to announce how a $3.8bn budget deficit would be addressed, and ended with news of a massacre claimed by al-Qaeda-linked jihadis, al-Shabaab, who killed 48 people in an overnight raid on a coastal town.
Kenya says it will use the money to repay a $600m loan that expires, following a painful last-minute three-month extension, in mid-August, as well as for general budgetary spending with a focus on grand infrastructure to boost growth rates.
Still, Kenya counted on many positive developments. Its bond prospectus for the first time officially touted a larger economy than previously estimated – 20.6 per cent bigger in 2009 than earlier estimates – and Mr Rotich last week forecast that Kenya would grow 5.8 per cent this year and 6.4 per cent next year. Kenya’s debut $2bn bond breaks Africa record-Finacial Times
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Rank: Elder Joined: 12/7/2012 Posts: 11,908
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Very good news for #team.ke ..... hope it will awaken the market! In the business world, everyone is paid in two coins - cash and experience. Take the experience first; the cash will come later - H Geneen
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