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Car: Forrester,Xtrail,Pajero io OR Freelander
dexco
#21 Posted : Thursday, October 08, 2009 2:56:00 PM
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Now ive remembered another unit goog for you. Try Toyota Ipsum 4wd chassis type ACM26W. Price about 1.1m. Also Honda CRV Rd5 but will cost you about 1.6m
fake mukihahaha
#22 Posted : Thursday, October 08, 2009 3:13:00 PM
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anyone familiar with the toyota kluger and how it rates with the models discussed here

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simonkabz
#23 Posted : Thursday, October 08, 2009 4:10:00 PM
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Did someone mention the cami? Keep off that lil' piece of shiet,has very very poor stability,and the auto one,though a 1300cc,aint so economical. Suzukis avoid,ziko na issues. CRV....gud wen new,bt after a few years....My several peanuts.

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vinii
#24 Posted : Tuesday, November 24, 2009 6:44:00 PM
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does an Ipsum fall in this category? Anybody with details about its performance compared to the Xtrail?


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reddevil
#25 Posted : Wednesday, November 25, 2009 4:11:00 AM
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@Dexco

I am also looking at the Forester SG5 XT,year 2002,non-turbo,you reckon that the turbo does better long distance on fuel,please give details. e.g average spend from Mombasa to Nairobi in Kshs.

Also what is the average fuel consumption of the non-turbo,taking that 80% of the time i will be within Nairobi.


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clems
#26 Posted : Wednesday, November 25, 2009 4:55:00 AM
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Check out the 2005 top gear survey

http://www.topgear.com/c...05/11/stories/01/1.html

it measures among other things reliability,performance and running costs.

age of cars in the review are within the range that most kenyans are interested in.

from your list the forrester comes tops.

the first 4wd is the lexus rx300 although this may be on the pricier side.
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Ondiek
#27 Posted : Wednesday, November 25, 2009 5:08:00 AM
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Check out www.amayama.com for car specs
Djinn
#28 Posted : Wednesday, November 25, 2009 6:29:00 AM
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I have heard not so nice things about the rear leg room in a Forester @Sasha - trust you to throw yourself into this foray on cars - good to see you dishing out some really good advice! ;-)

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#29 Posted : Wednesday, November 25, 2009 6:57:00 AM
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@Djinn: I love cars! My dad was a mechanical engineer and I literally grew up a greasy tomboy,always getting under the hood with him! A bug bit me,and it keeps biting!

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JkMwatha
#30 Posted : Wednesday, November 25, 2009 8:29:00 AM
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As you are not likely to drive in snow (except once in a while in Nyahururu),4X4 reviews done in Europe may be limited
Dusty Australia may be better

Subaru Forester v Honda CR-V v Toyota RAV4 v Nissan X-Trail

http://www.overlander.co...dge-v-Nissan-X-Trail-ST


http://www.drive.com.au/...il.aspx?ArticleID=43507

I also wonder why you class Rav4 with 'the Prados' and include IO with the above.

My choice would be Rav 4 simply due to resale value.



Get ready... for the open road!
reddevil
#31 Posted : Thursday, November 26, 2009 5:14:00 AM
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@clems,

I have seen that top gear review,it puts the forester up there.


10 Subaru Forester (UP)


Engine/Gearbox Reliability



Electrical Reliability



Brakes/Suspension/Steering



Fit/Finish



Squeaks/Rattles



Performance



Handling



Comfort/Practicality



Customer Care



Ownership Costs



But still i don't get how the turbo consumes better than the non-turbo on long distance am also wondering which one is better in cases of town running. turbo or non turbo. Again is the consumption rate significant.


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Ja-Kom
#32 Posted : Tuesday, June 10, 2014 3:17:41 PM
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Ok,the good side of SK Sorry,Wazua. Had wanted to get an IO but seems opinions are low on it (what is wrong about it no one says). Back to drawing board. Also need a 4x4 but a mwananchi one not the guzzlers.Guess we all learn something everyday.
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AlphDoti
#33 Posted : Wednesday, June 11, 2014 10:22:22 AM
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@popi, I wonder why you left out CRV?

Anyway among what you have listed:
1. Forester - for power, do yo need this power? Also you can only sell to specific group of people.
2. X-rail - only class, but worst in everything else including durability and resale value. You can sell this thing for a whole year!
3. IO - moderate performance, family car, cool car, moderate re-sale value. For people who want to mind their own business.

I advice you to go for Forester if you are aggressive person, or IO if you're cool person.
AlphDoti
#34 Posted : Wednesday, June 11, 2014 10:27:24 AM
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JkMwatha wrote:
As you are not likely to drive in snow (except once in a while in Nyahururu),4X4 reviews done in Europe may be limited
Dusty Australia may be better

Subaru Forester v Honda CR-V v Toyota RAV4 v Nissan X-Trail

http://www.overlander.co...dge-v-Nissan-X-Trail-ST

http://www.drive.com.au/...il.aspx?ArticleID=43507

I also wonder why you class Rav4 with 'the Prados' and include IO with the above.

My choice would be Rav 4 simply due to resale value.

Get ready... for the open road!

This is my opinion:

Nissan X-Trail - poor in many areas
Subaru Forester - best in Performance, poorest in fuel economy and scqueezed back seats and smaller boot
Toyota RAV4 - best ride & beautify, overpriced and squeezed back seat (tall person struggles) and smaller boot
Honda CR-V - best ride, most comfortable, most durable, most stable. Extra weight contributes to stability.
Rahatupu
#35 Posted : Friday, June 13, 2014 7:38:56 AM
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AlphDoti wrote:
JkMwatha wrote:
As you are not likely to drive in snow (except once in a while in Nyahururu),4X4 reviews done in Europe may be limited
Dusty Australia may be better

Subaru Forester v Honda CR-V v Toyota RAV4 v Nissan X-Trail

http://www.overlander.co...dge-v-Nissan-X-Trail-ST

http://www.drive.com.au/...il.aspx?ArticleID=43507

I also wonder why you class Rav4 with 'the Prados' and include IO with the above.

My choice would be Rav 4 simply due to resale value.

Get ready... for the open road!

This is my opinion:

Nissan X-Trail - poor in many areas
Subaru Forester - best in Performance, poorest in fuel economy and scqueezed back seats and smaller boot
Toyota RAV4 - best ride & beautify, overpriced and squeezed back seat (tall person struggles) and smaller boot
Honda CR-V - best ride, most comfortable, most durable, most stable. Extra weight contributes to stability.
.

@Alph, weka Outlander kwa list
AlphDoti
#36 Posted : Friday, June 13, 2014 11:15:49 AM
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Rahatupu wrote:
AlphDoti wrote:
JkMwatha wrote:
As you are not likely to drive in snow (except once in a while in Nyahururu),4X4 reviews done in Europe may be limited
Dusty Australia may be better

Subaru Forester v Honda CR-V v Toyota RAV4 v Nissan X-Trail

http://www.overlander.co...dge-v-Nissan-X-Trail-ST

http://www.drive.com.au/...il.aspx?ArticleID=43507

I also wonder why you class Rav4 with 'the Prados' and include IO with the above.

My choice would be Rav 4 simply due to resale value.

Get ready... for the open road!

This is my opinion:

Nissan X-Trail - poor in many areas
Subaru Forester - best in Performance, poorest in fuel economy and scqueezed back seats and smaller boot
Toyota RAV4 - best ride & beautify, overpriced and squeezed back seat (tall person struggles) and smaller boot
Honda CR-V - best ride, most comfortable, most durable, most stable. Extra weight contributes to stability.
.
@Alph, weka Outlander kwa list

@Rahatupu, Baraza JM said it all here: "the Freelander was made when Rover was broke, and it shows in the car".

In addition, it lacks class and durability look really.
XSK
#37 Posted : Sunday, June 15, 2014 5:09:16 PM
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AlphDoti wrote:
Rahatupu wrote:
AlphDoti wrote:
JkMwatha wrote:
As you are not likely to drive in snow (except once in a while in Nyahururu),4X4 reviews done in Europe may be limited
Dusty Australia may be better

Subaru Forester v Honda CR-V v Toyota RAV4 v Nissan X-Trail

http://www.overlander.co...dge-v-Nissan-X-Trail-ST

http://www.drive.com.au/...il.aspx?ArticleID=43507

I also wonder why you class Rav4 with 'the Prados' and include IO with the above.

My choice would be Rav 4 simply due to resale value.

Get ready... for the open road!

This is my opinion:

Nissan X-Trail - poor in many areas
Subaru Forester - best in Performance, poorest in fuel economy and scqueezed back seats and smaller boot
Toyota RAV4 - best ride & beautify, overpriced and squeezed back seat (tall person struggles) and smaller boot
Honda CR-V - best ride, most comfortable, most durable, most stable. Extra weight contributes to stability.
.
@Alph, weka Outlander kwa list

@Rahatupu, Baraza JM said it all here: "the Freelander was made when Rover was broke, and it shows in the car".

In addition, it lacks class and durability look really.


@alph I thought the outlander is a mitsubishi not a landrover
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AlphDoti
#38 Posted : Monday, June 16, 2014 11:33:14 AM
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XSK wrote:
AlphDoti wrote:
Rahatupu wrote:
AlphDoti wrote:
JkMwatha wrote:
As you are not likely to drive in snow (except once in a while in Nyahururu),4X4 reviews done in Europe may be limited
Dusty Australia may be better

Subaru Forester v Honda CR-V v Toyota RAV4 v Nissan X-Trail

http://www.overlander.co...dge-v-Nissan-X-Trail-ST

http://www.drive.com.au/...il.aspx?ArticleID=43507

I also wonder why you class Rav4 with 'the Prados' and include IO with the above.

My choice would be Rav 4 simply due to resale value.

Get ready... for the open road!

This is my opinion:

Nissan X-Trail - poor in many areas
Subaru Forester - best in Performance, poorest in fuel economy and scqueezed back seats and smaller boot
Toyota RAV4 - best ride & beautify, overpriced and squeezed back seat (tall person struggles) and smaller boot
Honda CR-V - best ride, most comfortable, most durable, most stable. Extra weight contributes to stability.
.
@Alph, weka Outlander kwa list

@Rahatupu, Baraza JM said it all here: "the Freelander was made when Rover was broke, and it shows in the car".

In addition, it lacks class and durability look really.


@alph I thought the outlander is a mitsubishi not a landrover

@XSK oooh!!! Ooops, thank you for the correction. In that case I don't know about Outlander.
Rahatupu
#39 Posted : Wednesday, June 18, 2014 11:44:02 AM
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@Alph, its in the CRV, Xtrail, Rav4, Forester category, but I must say its so delightful and well engineered. Rugged yet smooth, powerful and fast. IMO, it beats the rivals in more ways than one, comfort, economy and design.
otienosmall
#40 Posted : Wednesday, June 18, 2014 7:21:53 PM
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Can also consider a Kluger have had it for 3 years and can’t complain; stable, good fuel economy, power, space, with only normal servicing for that period.. Cool ride so far
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