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mukiha
#11 Posted : Friday, December 04, 2009 10:51:13 AM
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I maintain a simple rule: the more you invest in starting a new business, the more likely it is to fail...before it's first birthday!

Why would I pay 7 mill for a web site while there are places I can get for free?

Also why pay 500 per MONTH hosting while there are places I can host for 2,500 per YEAR?

Nothing is real unless it can be named; nothing has value unless it can be sold; money is worthless unless you spend it.
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anasazi
#12 Posted : Friday, December 04, 2009 11:04:23 AM
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Actually there are hosts for even $1 per month. The main factor here is features & capacity. Some of these hosts claim to allow unlimited traffic.. However, if your site becomes too successful... they shut you down! So you may need dedicated hosting etc etc
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madollar
#13 Posted : Friday, December 04, 2009 12:39:39 PM
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according to alexa here are the top 20 local websites in kenya among the top 100 visited in kenya most of this websites have never advertised like patauza.co.ke it does not buy ad space in the dailies to market itself yet its up there with the big boys

a good website has to have a target market which embraces it once its online word of mouth normally does the advertsing e.g home.co.ke serves the expatriate community hence its high rankings
note where mashada is soon it will drop
ensure your website serves a need other wise you are wasting your time like zayari.com its advertised daily on radio yet its not on the rankings
today i have seen in the classifieds section of the daily nation a website targeting privateschools www.privateschools.co.ke
looks to have some potential

1.nation.co.ke (10)
2.home.co.ke (12)
3.Standardmedia.co.ke (22)
4.capitalfm.co.ke (24)
5.patauza.co.ke(25)
6.sasahiva.com(30)
7.Webarazacareers.com (33)
8.kenyanjobs.blogspot.com (37)
10.safaricom.co.ke(50)
11.haiya.co.ke (53)
12.kenic.or.ke (62)
13.kra.go.ke(70)
14.AccessKenya.com (72)
15.uonbi.ac.ke (79)
16.jumuika.co.ke (80)
17.mashada.com (84)
18.bestjobskenya.com (100)
10.Businessdailyafrica.com (44)
11.Brightermonday.com (48)
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Phaoro
#14 Posted : Monday, December 07, 2009 4:05:38 PM
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I think *web sites that cost > 7M probably have more functionality than your regurlar web sites per say, these Probably have an information system of some kind in the background and are not necessarily web sites but complete systems of some sort.

I agree with the sentiments, just having a web site and expecting to make returns without a clear thought out plan is a recipe for failure. Rather a web site should be seen as a small component of a bigger business plan to meet a need or take advantage of an opportunity. However I disagree with the vitu vya bure mentality.
Mukiha wrote
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Why would I pay 7 mill for a web site while there are places I can get for free


I think if you are going to run a business especially one that you expect to grow substantially, it would be a bad idea to have its web site running on those free web hosting sites, those sites can be completely unreliable. What happens when you wake up one day and the web site is not there? who do you blame?

Thanks (anasazi,alma,mukiha and madollar) for your input in the discussion.
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bird_man
#15 Posted : Monday, December 07, 2009 6:12:09 PM
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I'm from an IT background and I think some of the posts here are funny.If I were a web designer,why would i accept a decent client to pay me 15k for a site?Unless I could make it within a day....

The KCB site costs around 3M.I know a local auction site that has spent around 4M so far...and yes....I have tasted 200k of that!I have a feeling that SK/Wazua was done by an IT company with one good guru.....or they simply forked out a crazy amount to have it done.
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Phaoro
#16 Posted : Monday, December 07, 2009 8:47:09 PM
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There should not be a huge discrepancy in cost for standard web sites, I would think web design cost should be coming down instead of going up. Unlike a decade ago. there is more competition by web designers, there is better technology encouraging "do it yourself" designs, more companies are demanding cost effective web sites.

I would also think you are more likely to be charged more by a web design company than a freelance web developer. The company obviously has a bigger overhead cost.

Note we are not talking about premium web sites. Anyway I am yet to see one designed for a kenyan market. When I say premium I am thinking flash and the works.
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alma
#17 Posted : Tuesday, December 08, 2009 4:21:14 AM
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I am going to be VERY VERY BLUNT

I said anyone paying any kenyan web design company more than 1 million bob is being conned.

KCB if they paid 3million should demand their money back.

It is built with Joomla a freeeeeee platform.

I CAN HACK KCB NOW. After they spent the 3 million I can right now be able to login as their administrator and get any data they think they can hide.

For those who need proof that kenyan web design companies are a bunch of conmen

here is the link to the kcb website administrator side

KCB ADMINISTRATOR LOGIN

It would take me 5 minutes to hack it.

Please guys, you are being conned here....Lakini if you think that you have met good web developers in Kenya who are worth 400k, then to each their own .....

By the way, I'm not saying that there are no sites that you pay for 100k dollars for. I'm just saying, they aren't as silly as the ones I've been shown so far.

By the way Phaoro, if you have someone building sites for you in flash, you are in more trouble than you think.....Go read google best practise on flash.
Jose: If I make it through this thug life, I'll see you one day. The Lord is the only way to stop the hurt.
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alma
#18 Posted : Tuesday, December 08, 2009 5:03:17 AM
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As usual on sk we digress.

The original post was about the total cost of ownership. This is my breakdown if you wish to have a successful web business.

As you can see it is a serious investment.

-Brochure Websites $500 -$1000
-Ecommerce Websites $1000 - $2000
-Bespoke complex website $5000 - $10,000
-Content Creation And Promotion - Text Content $200 / Audio $300 / Video $500
-SEO And Social Networking Services – Small $300 P/M / Medium $500 P/M / $700 P/M High Volume
-List Building Small - $200 P/M, Medium - $400 P/M, High $1000 P/M
-PPC – Small $400 P/M, Medium $800 + 10% Ad Spend, High $2000 + 10% Ad Spend

Please note that creating the website is the easy part. It is its management that is more important.

Good luck Phaoro
Jose: If I make it through this thug life, I'll see you one day. The Lord is the only way to stop the hurt.
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Phaoro
#19 Posted : Tuesday, December 08, 2009 4:27:52 PM
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@ alma,

I think your numbers for an ecommerce web site are not far off from what I was thinking. I am not necessarily interested in flash but wanted to pass a point across.

Thanks for the input.
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