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Lolest! wrote:guru267 wrote:Lolest! wrote:you choose not to see @guru's many insults to very many of us in this thread and elsewhere Eye for an eye... Today I turn the other cheek! an eye for an eye? You start insulting guys askin questions and you call it an eye for an eye? Stop crying man! Mark 12:29
Deuteronomy 4:16
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Rank: Elder Joined: 6/20/2008 Posts: 6,275 Location: Kenya
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guru267 wrote:Lolest! wrote:guru267 wrote:Lolest! wrote:you choose not to see @guru's many insults to very many of us in this thread and elsewhere Eye for an eye... Today I turn the other cheek! an eye for an eye? You start insulting guys askin questions and you call it an eye for an eye? Stop crying man! @lonest! now you can take her on, she has broken her fast by 6:45pm. @guru may Allaah, make the new moon rise on us with blessing, faith, safety and Islam, ameen! I hope you had some of this in the house  How I wish it could grow in my shamba 
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kyt wrote:hii thread ilikuwa juu ya nini? guru I didnt say I support any. I said 3 years is a long time. in 3 years guys marry have kids and divorce; guys get rich squander the wealth and are poor again; an elnino happens and droughts came again in that space if time. hell... even technology changes after every 18 months.!!!!and oh in 3 years samsung has s1_s5 all in 3 years. 3 years is a long time. usicheze na 3 years. This discussion is now at 200+ posts?! Wow.  This thread was about why if a muslim defected from Islam, other muslims have a right to kill them. And why this does not seem to happen in other religions. "Occasionally I drop a tea cup to shatter on the floor. On purpose. I am not satisfied when it does not gather itself up again. Someday perhaps that cup will come together."
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Islam is a cult, end of story. If you read between the lines, you'll see that what guru is basically saying is we know the Prophet did many wrong things, but he was told to do so by God, so even though Islam was founded by an immoral man, we don't care because our numbers are growing. That's text book example of a cult, even if you see evidence that its wrong, you still embrace it because numbers are growing. That's the most invalid argument one can have, homosexual relationships are also growing, does that make it right? Like my mum always used to tell me, never follow the crowd. In the US I know for a fact that Muslims recruits African Americans mainly from prison, they target the dejected who are at their most vulnerable state, and sell them the image of brotherhood and a pious Mohammed, when the reality is this is a cage in which once you get in, there's no getting out, and they justify it with apostasy. Mohammed used to have conversations with Satan in the desert, some creepy stuff, and I'm supposed to bow down facing some big black box ( isn't that idol worship?) to this man? No thanks!
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Rank: Elder Joined: 1/17/2013 Posts: 4,693 Location: Earth
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Rank: Elder Joined: 1/21/2010 Posts: 6,675 Location: Nairobi
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Nabwire wrote:Islam is a cult, end of story. If you read between the lines, you'll see that what guru is basically saying is we know the Prophet did many wrong things, but he was told to do so by God, so even though Islam was founded by an immoral man, we don't care because our numbers are growing. That's text book example of a cult, even if you see evidence that its wrong, you still embrace it because numbers are growing. That's the most invalid argument one can have, homosexual relationships are also growing, does that make it right? Like my mum always used to tell me, never follow the crowd. In the US I know for a fact that Muslims recruits African Americans mainly from prison, they target the dejected who are at their most vulnerable state, and sell them the image of brotherhood and a pious Mohammed, when the reality is this is a cage in which once you get in, there's no getting out, and they justify it with apostasy. Mohammed used to have conversations with Satan in the desert, some creepy stuff, and I'm supposed to bow down facing some big black box ( isn't that idol worship?) to this man? No thanks! @Nabwire why are you concerned if I want to follow an "immoral man"?? Or did someone ask you to become Muslim?? Why are you scared of the growth of our "cult"?? Mark 12:29
Deuteronomy 4:16
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Rank: Elder Joined: 10/4/2006 Posts: 13,823 Location: Nairobi
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this are good faith questions 1) the kaaba - why pray facing it? why go around it? I understand pilgrimage - stuff becomes real when you get context but why go around it? 2) Moha's drawings - why ban them? is it fear that if you saw one you would worship it? is it fear that if others saw one they would worship it? I don't get these two concepts. All Mushrooms are edible! Some Mushroom are only edible ONCE!
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Rank: Elder Joined: 7/11/2012 Posts: 5,222
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guru267 wrote:Nabwire wrote:Islam is a cult, end of story. If you read between the lines, you'll see that what guru is basically saying is we know the Prophet did many wrong things, but he was told to do so by God, so even though Islam was founded by an immoral man, we don't care because our numbers are growing. That's text book example of a cult, even if you see evidence that its wrong, you still embrace it because numbers are growing. That's the most invalid argument one can have, homosexual relationships are also growing, does that make it right? Like my mum always used to tell me, never follow the crowd. In the US I know for a fact that Muslims recruits African Americans mainly from prison, they target the dejected who are at their most vulnerable state, and sell them the image of brotherhood and a pious Mohammed, when the reality is this is a cage in which once you get in, there's no getting out, and they justify it with apostasy. Mohammed used to have conversations with Satan in the desert, some creepy stuff, and I'm supposed to bow down facing some big black box ( isn't that idol worship?) to this man? No thanks! @Nabwire why are you concerned if I want to follow an "immoral man"?? Or did someone ask you to become Muslim?? Why are you scared of the growth of our "cult"?? Because your cult is all about violence. There can never be peace where your kind exists.  @Nabwire
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Rank: Veteran Joined: 7/22/2011 Posts: 1,325
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This is the problem with you guru, you personalize everything. Just because I speak out about Islam, does not mean that I want it destroyed, I just believe in people knowing the truth. I spoke out to expose the truth, what people do with that truth, I really don't care. You were on a roll patting yourself on the back, and I stopped the party, had I spoken out in your defense, would you still have asked me those questions? I know your strategy, so I don't play into it, so you turn it into' why are you scared about the growth of our cult' To be honest I really don't care, as long as you guys bow down in peace, I have no problem. But when it directly affects my well being, I will speak out. You have twisted the truth on so many different issues, had you spoken on facts, I wouldn't need to call you out. I actually like some aspects of Islam, like the AA prisoners who change their course of life and become responsible, that's very admirable. The problem is once the honeymoon stage is over, they are manipulated to think of non Muslims as the enemy and to become fanatics, which is the stage I suspect you are in. This attitude of I will do anything to defend my prophet, forget that, if Jesus impregnated a 9 yr old I would be like WTF, wacha ikae! So go ahead and follow your prophet, just don't use deceit to recruit the next bunch of followers and expect me to stay silent, especially if these new recruits will put my life in danger.
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Rank: Elder Joined: 1/21/2010 Posts: 6,675 Location: Nairobi
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Nabwire wrote:This is the problem with you guru, you personalize everything. Just because I speak out about Islam, does not mean that I want it destroyed, I just believe in people knowing the truth. I spoke out to expose the truth, what people do with that truth, I really don't care. You were on a roll patting yourself on the back, and I stopped the party, had I spoken out in your defense, would you still have asked me those questions? I know your strategy, so I don't play into it, so you turn it into' why are you scared about the growth of our cult' To be honest I really don't care, as long as you guys bow down in peace, I have no problem. But when it directly affects my well being, I will speak out. You have twisted the truth on so many different issues, had you spoken on facts, I wouldn't need to call you out. I actually like some aspects of Islam, like the AA prisoners who change their course of life and become responsible, that's very admirable. The problem is once the honeymoon stage is over, they are manipulated to think of non Muslims as the enemy and to become fanatics, which is the stage I suspect you are in. This attitude of I will do anything to defend my prophet, forget that, if Jesus impregnated a 9 yr old I would be like WTF, wacha ikae! So go ahead and follow your prophet, just don't use deceit to recruit the next bunch of followers and expect me to stay silent, especially if these new recruits will put my life in danger. So much emotion and passion for someone who doesn't care?? Was it Muslims or Islam that infringed on your peace?? So how does it make you feel that Jesus was born from an impregnated 12 year old girl?? Mark 12:29
Deuteronomy 4:16
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