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Lolest!
#201 Posted : Thursday, May 29, 2014 5:08:29 PM
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AlphDoti wrote:
Lolest! wrote:
AlphDoti wrote:


3. And as regards the insults you're throwing at @guru, here is the answer, the Prophet (pbuh) said:
"If any one of you is fasting, let him not utter obscenities or act in an ignorant manner, and if anyone insults him or wants to fight him, let him say, I am fasting." Narrated by al-Bukhaari, hadith no. 1,894; Muslim hadith no. 1,151.

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@lolnest what do you mean?

you choose not to see @guru's many insults to very many of us in this thread and elsewhere

Infact, someone says she's already preached to him that way

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AlphDoti
#202 Posted : Thursday, May 29, 2014 5:10:09 PM
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Lolest! wrote:
AlphDoti wrote:
Lolest! wrote:
Muriel wrote:


About Guru, if she is fasting ,,,,,,,that part ,,,,,,, let her not utter 'obscenities' or act in 'ignorant' manner ,,,,, I hope she fasts everyday!

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@muriel and @lonest read below:

Narrated by Usamah ibn Zayd:
The client of Usamah ibn Zayd said that he went along with Usamah to Wadi al-Qura in pursuit of his camels. He would fast on Monday and Thursday. His client said to him: Why do you fast on Monday and Thursday, while you are an old man? He said: "The Prophet of Allah (peace_be_upon_him) used to fast on Monday and Thursday."

So you can see there are few "men" (means both female and male human) who are still following the example of Muhammad (s.a.w).

And I guess your next question will be "so what is the benefit of fasting? Aren't you torturing yourself?"

who said there's anything wrong with fasting?

@lonest has anyone said that?
masukuma
#203 Posted : Thursday, May 29, 2014 5:18:23 PM
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AlphDoti wrote:
Lolest! wrote:
Muriel wrote:


About Guru, if she is fasting ,,,,,,,that part ,,,,,,, let her not utter 'obscenities' or act in 'ignorant' manner ,,,,, I hope she fasts everyday!

Applause Applause Applause

@muriel and @lonest read below:

Narrated by Usamah ibn Zayd:
The client of Usamah ibn Zayd said that he went along with Usamah to Wadi al-Qura in pursuit of his camels. He would fast on Monday and Thursday. His client said to him: Why do you fast on Monday and Thursday, while you are an old man? He said: "The Prophet of Allah (peace_be_upon_him) used to fast on Monday and Thursday."

So you can see there are few "men" (means both female and male human) who are still following the example of Muhammad (s.a.w).

And I guess your next question will be "so what is the benefit of fasting? Aren't you torturing yourself?"

fasting has benefits... I fast quite often. at least 5 times a day. After breakfast, After 10 o'clock tea, after lunch, after 4 o'clock tea and after supper. If it was not for fasting I would be dead!!
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AlphDoti
#204 Posted : Thursday, May 29, 2014 5:18:48 PM
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Muriel wrote:
AlphDoti wrote:
Muriel wrote:
AlphDoti wrote:
Lolest! wrote:
Muriel wrote:

Mimi naomba tu ile swali langu ijibiwe na Alphdoti. Or Guru if she can.

Has Alphdoti given off his daughters to be married? Are there true muslim men who follow mohammed example? He takes them swimming, that I know. I want just this personal evidence of the exemplary example of mohammed being practically followed! Hiyo tu.

Hizo fast za kutangaza tunajua.

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16 “Moreover, when you fast, do not be like the hypocrites, with a sad countenance. For they disfigure their faces that they may appear to men to be fasting. Assuredly, I say to you, they have their reward. 17 But you, when you fast, anoint your head and wash your face, 18 so that you do not appear to men to be fasting, but to your Father who is in the secret place; and your Father who sees in secret will reward you openly

1. @muriel I don't have to tell you anything about my daughters, do I? They could be married or maybe they are not. You don't want to be nosey, do you?

2. Your other question is whether there are any Muslim men who follow Muhammad (pbuh) example. The answer is yes.

3. And as regards the insults you're throwing at @guru, here is the answer, the Prophet (pbuh) said:
"If any one of you is fasting, let him not utter obscenities or act in an ignorant manner, and if anyone insults him or wants to fight him, let him say, I am fasting." Narrated by al-Bukhaari, hadith no. 1,894; Muslim hadith no. 1,151.

Oh, yes. Sorry. I should not be nosey about your daughters. You don't have to tell me anything about them.

Of course they are not married, they are in school, learning, today. You are a good dad to them (and they are lucky to have a dad like you) you want them to get a good education - bachelors, masters, doctorates even and excellent careers. Who would not like those for his children?

The man who lays a hand on them ati sijui he is following mohammed example in getting Aisha as a wife will surely meet your wrath and he will live to regret. A lot.

Thank you for not allowing yourself and your family to follow such a ridiculous teaching and example of mohammed. Thank you for disobeying mohammed on that particular. Millions and billions of us disobey him everyday in very many other things. Welcome. Feel at home.

About Guru, if she is fasting ,,,,,,,that part ,,,,,,, let her not utter 'obscenities' or act in 'ignorant' manner ,,,,, I hope she fasts everyday!

Mariam the mother of Jesus (peace be upon them both), was she honoured by God because of her beauty or her work or her education or her Masters?

Your daughters, when they do well in school, when you check if they have done their homework correctly like you will today, will bring you honor. You have spoken of them a few times before, duh! With pride and adoration. You would not have if they did not bring you honor.

You are right, I'm proud of them. They are already doing much, much more on the line of deen. And anything they want to be within the confines of the sharia, if that is what they feel compelled to do, I support!

For your information, Islam allows education, all halal work within the confines of sharia. It promotes educational rights of everyone, including girls. The first guidance from Quran to human kind was not to pray, not to give charity, not to fast, but it was to read.

Quran 96:1-5
Quote:
Read, recite, proclaim in the name of Allah, who He created man and woman, who has taught human through pen and paper.


So I'm leading by example, because Islam gives utmost emphasize to education. The prophet ordained the parents to gave education to daughters. And after she is married, it was the duty of husband to give her education.

There's hadith which says women one day women asked prophet why he surrounds himself with men, and if he will allow them to ask him questions. Prophet allowed this and sent many swahaba to give women education.

Imagine 1400 years ago when women were ill-treated, only used, Islam asked women to be educated.

We have many examples of women scholars.
guru267
#205 Posted : Thursday, May 29, 2014 5:21:16 PM
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Lolest! wrote:
you choose not to see @guru's many insults to very many of us in this thread and elsewhere


Eye for an eye...

Today I turn the other cheek!
Mark 12:29
Deuteronomy 4:16
AlphDoti
#206 Posted : Thursday, May 29, 2014 5:22:54 PM
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Lolest! wrote:
AlphDoti wrote:
Lolest! wrote:
AlphDoti wrote:


3. And as regards the insults you're throwing at @guru, here is the answer, the Prophet (pbuh) said:
"If any one of you is fasting, let him not utter obscenities or act in an ignorant manner, and if anyone insults him or wants to fight him, let him say, I am fasting." Narrated by al-Bukhaari, hadith no. 1,894; Muslim hadith no. 1,151.

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@lolnest what do you mean?

you choose not to see @guru's many insults to very many of us in this thread and elsewhere

Infact, someone says she's already preached to him that way

What insults? You should continue saying and doing good, she will say and do good too. I have not seen a post where she starts insulting anyone, all the time someone starts insulting @guru, or even myself.

#YouStopWeStop
AlphDoti
#207 Posted : Thursday, May 29, 2014 5:24:50 PM
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masukuma wrote:
AlphDoti wrote:
Lolest! wrote:
Muriel wrote:


About Guru, if she is fasting ,,,,,,,that part ,,,,,,, let her not utter 'obscenities' or act in 'ignorant' manner ,,,,, I hope she fasts everyday!

Applause Applause Applause

@muriel and @lonest read below:

Narrated by Usamah ibn Zayd:
The client of Usamah ibn Zayd said that he went along with Usamah to Wadi al-Qura in pursuit of his camels. He would fast on Monday and Thursday. His client said to him: Why do you fast on Monday and Thursday, while you are an old man? He said: "The Prophet of Allah (peace_be_upon_him) used to fast on Monday and Thursday."

So you can see there are few "men" (means both female and male human) who are still following the example of Muhammad (s.a.w).

And I guess your next question will be "so what is the benefit of fasting? Aren't you torturing yourself?"

fasting has benefits... I fast quite often. at least 5 times a day. After breakfast, After 10 o'clock tea, after lunch, after 4 o'clock tea and after supper. If it was not for fasting I would be dead!!

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Lolest!
#208 Posted : Thursday, May 29, 2014 6:17:52 PM
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guru267 wrote:
Lolest! wrote:
you choose not to see @guru's many insults to very many of us in this thread and elsewhere


Eye for an eye...

Today I turn the other cheek!

an eye for an eye? You start insulting guys askin questions and you call it an eye for an eye?
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Lolest!
#209 Posted : Thursday, May 29, 2014 6:22:18 PM
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lawyer @alphdoti, show us where your client was insulted necessitating her insults. Disagreeing with her is sufficient reason for insults. You don't have to defend every evil Muslims do from violence terrorism to insults just coz theyr Muslims. Or are all Muslims infallible like the prophet?
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AlphDoti
#210 Posted : Thursday, May 29, 2014 6:34:51 PM
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Lolest! wrote:
lawyer @alphdoti, show us where your client was insulted necessitating her insults. Disagreeing with her is sufficient reason for insults. You don't have to defend every evil Muslims do from violence terrorism to insults just coz theyr Muslims. Or are all Muslims infallible like the prophet?

@lolnest and who is this client?

And who is that evil person I have defended?

I'm waiting Not talking
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