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I Renounced Islam
guru267
#161 Posted : Thursday, May 29, 2014 11:48:55 AM
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Muriel wrote:
With all the electrifying sensual indulgences and liberality promised to adherents, and the randy example of the prophet to follow, even I would consider defecting - if only a few, no, many inconsistencies are ironed out. Right!


We love Muhammad despite your "inconsistencies" and with the flood of new converts daily we hardly need your defection!

Please do the whole Islamic world a favor and remain wherever you are!
Mark 12:29
Deuteronomy 4:16
Muriel
#162 Posted : Thursday, May 29, 2014 12:10:46 PM
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guru267 wrote:
Muriel wrote:
With all the electrifying sensual indulgences and liberality promised to adherents, and the randy example of the prophet to follow, even I would consider defecting - if only a few, no, many inconsistencies are ironed out. Right!


We love Muhammad despite your "inconsistencies" and with the flood of new converts daily we hardly need your defection!

Please do the whole Islamic world a favor and remain wherever you are!



laugh
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Lolest!
#163 Posted : Thursday, May 29, 2014 12:20:18 PM
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Location: Kianjokoma
masukuma wrote:
I think the problem most of us religious folk aka apologists have has is attempting to defend something that took place a long time ago in a foreign culture committed by people who had different ways of looking at things than we have today. nothing is static - life changes. Did Moha lead robbery of caravans? Yes! you could always interpret it the way you want but he did! . WE OUGHT TO KNOW BETTER than defend things that happened a millennium and a half ago.

Mathukuma, I like most of your posts here in wazua. You always have an intelligent, informed look on things and you hold to your convictions.

BUT, here we differ. Muhammad opposed the culture of the Arabs when it suited him and supported(and incorporated) it when it suited him.

The case of his adopted son Zayd is glaring. Arabic custom allowed adoption. Muhammad adopted Zayd in public at the ka'aba. This was in accordance with Arabic culture.

when he took Zayd's wife Zaynab, he got a new convenient revelation that adoption is not allowed by God. Thus, from henceforth, Zayd ceased being son of Muhammad! This 'revelation' disallowing adoption was contrary to culture. He had to misrepresent God to appear right before the Arabs and their culture

These things are interesting!
Laughing out loudly smile Applause d'oh! Sad Drool Liar Shame on you Pray
guru267
#164 Posted : Thursday, May 29, 2014 12:29:23 PM
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Lolest! wrote:
He had to misrepresent God to appear right before the Arabs and their culture


All hail the newly appointed judge of God! Applause
Mark 12:29
Deuteronomy 4:16
Muriel
#165 Posted : Thursday, May 29, 2014 12:34:31 PM
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I knew it all along. lol.

Lolest would, if he was persistent, wear out the cavil. He is.
Lolest!
#166 Posted : Thursday, May 29, 2014 12:41:21 PM
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guru267 wrote:
Lolest! wrote:
He had to misrepresent God to appear right before the Arabs and their culture


All hail the newly appointed judge of God! Applause

smile judgment only occurs when we are analysing Islam? What about when we are describing Christians as idol worshippers, infidels, and that Paul was the chief mushrik?

Double standards!
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symbols
#167 Posted : Thursday, May 29, 2014 12:41:24 PM
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AlphDoti
#168 Posted : Thursday, May 29, 2014 1:18:35 PM
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@symbols people enjoy so much making fun of Islam. I know you to be a rational person, and I believe you understand stereotyping that goes around.

JEWS have intentionally developed some websites to spread wrong information about Quran and Hadith. The above website you have quoted is one of them.

Below are the bad websites done by people who pretend to be Muslims. I shared this list before, when I gave it to @kysse. Be are aware of this:

1. www.answering-islam.org
2. www.aboutislam.com
3. www.thequran.com
4. www.Allahassurance.com

So recognize the hatred by some people. Don't follow suit and post the same wrong information about Islam. Because when we share information, we should seek brotherhood, truth, honesty, sincerity, and justice.
The Merchant
#169 Posted : Thursday, May 29, 2014 1:28:03 PM
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Posts: 846
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guru267 wrote:
masukuma wrote:
this business of patting yourself in the back is creepy!


@masukuma you plan to stop me from doing it??

If not and still creeped out! Feel free to drown in a lake...

Says Muhammad's humble servant
symbols
#170 Posted : Thursday, May 29, 2014 1:33:06 PM
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Joined: 3/19/2013
Posts: 2,552
AlphDoti wrote:

@symbols people enjoy so much making fun of Islam. I know you to be a rational person, and I believe you understand stereotyping that goes around.

JEWS have intentionally developed some websites to spread wrong information about Quran and Hadith. The above website you have quoted is one of them.

Below are the bad websites done by people who pretend to be Muslims. I shared this list before, when I gave it to @kysse. Be are aware of this:

1. www.answering-islam.org
2. www.aboutislam.com
3. www.thequran.com
4. www.Allahassurance.com

So recognize the hatred by some people. Don't follow suit and post the same wrong information about Islam. Because when we share information, we should seek brotherhood, truth, honesty, sincerity, and justice.

I posted links.Can you prove anything you've said?
Muriel
#171 Posted : Thursday, May 29, 2014 1:38:46 PM
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Joined: 11/19/2009
Posts: 3,142


Laugh
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Symbols, brother! Another bout of laughter from you is always welcome!

Laugh
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Muriel
#172 Posted : Thursday, May 29, 2014 1:41:51 PM
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Joined: 11/19/2009
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AlphDoti wrote:

@symbols people enjoy so much making fun of Islam. I know you to be a rational person, and I believe you understand stereotyping that goes around.

JEWS have intentionally developed some websites to spread wrong information about Quran and Hadith. The above website you have quoted is one of them.

Below are the bad websites done by people who pretend to be Muslims. I shared this list before, when I gave it to @kysse. Be are aware of this:

1. www.answering-islam.org
2. www.aboutislam.com
3. www.thequran.com
4. www.Allahassurance.com

So recognize the hatred by some people. Don't follow suit and post the same wrong information about Islam. Because when we share information, we should seek brotherhood, truth, honesty, sincerity, and justice.



Hello there Alphdoti. Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly
Lolest!
#173 Posted : Thursday, May 29, 2014 1:43:12 PM
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Joined: 3/18/2011
Posts: 12,069
Location: Kianjokoma
AlphDoti wrote:

@symbols people enjoy so much making fun of Islam. I know you to be a rational person, and I believe you understand stereotyping that goes around.

JEWS have intentionally developed some websites to spread wrong information about Quran and Hadith. The above website you have quoted is one of them.

Below are the bad websites done by people who pretend to be Muslims. I shared this list before, when I gave it to @kysse. Be are aware of this:

1. www.answering-islam.org
2. www.aboutislam.com
3. www.thequran.com
4. www.Allahassurance.com

So recognize the hatred by some people. Don't follow suit and post the same wrong information about Islam. Because when we share information, we should seek brotherhood, truth, honesty, sincerity, and justice.


I can't believe my eyes!!!

The problem is the Jews!!
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McReggae
#174 Posted : Thursday, May 29, 2014 1:46:17 PM
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smile Busted!!!!
..."Wewe ni mtu mdogo sana....na mwenye amekuandika pia ni mtu mdogo sana!".
Lolest!
#175 Posted : Thursday, May 29, 2014 1:47:41 PM
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This is shocking! The same Muslims who will attack Christianity for anything and everything(including circumcision and not having beards) now say we are engaging in hate!

We are just weighing the Qur'an and the prophet who some Muslims claim is infallible!
Laughing out loudly smile Applause d'oh! Sad Drool Liar Shame on you Pray
guru267
#176 Posted : Thursday, May 29, 2014 1:51:13 PM
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Lolest! wrote:
The same Muslims who will attack Christianity for anything and everything(including circumcision and not having beards) now say we are engaging in hate!


So Christianity also teaches revenge??

Hypocrites!
Mark 12:29
Deuteronomy 4:16
guru267
#177 Posted : Thursday, May 29, 2014 1:54:40 PM
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I'm fasting today so I hardly have the energy..

Feel free to bash the prophet without much retaliation from me!
Mark 12:29
Deuteronomy 4:16
Lolest!
#178 Posted : Thursday, May 29, 2014 1:55:38 PM
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guru267 wrote:
Lolest! wrote:
The same Muslims who will attack Christianity for anything and everything(including circumcision and not having beards) now say we are engaging in hate!


So Christianity also teaches revenge??


Hypocrites!


Are you saying it was wrong for you to attack Christianity?

Quote me correctly!
Lolest! wrote:
This is shocking! The same Muslims who will attack Christianity for anything and everything(including circumcision and not having beards) now say we are engaging in hate!

We are just weighing the Qur'an and the prophet who some Muslims claim is infallible!

Laughing out loudly smile Applause d'oh! Sad Drool Liar Shame on you Pray
symbols
#179 Posted : Thursday, May 29, 2014 1:55:53 PM
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Posts: 2,552
Muriel wrote:


Laugh
Laugh
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Symbols, brother! Another bout of laughter from you is always welcome!

Laugh
Laugh
Laugh

Laughing out loudly
Heh,wacha tu.
Muriel
#180 Posted : Thursday, May 29, 2014 1:57:37 PM
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Mimi naomba tu ile swali langu ijibiwe na Alphdoti. Or Guru if she can.

Has Alphdoti given off his daughters to be married? Are there true muslim men who follow mohammed example? He takes them swimming, that I know. I want just this personal evidence of the exemplary example of mohammed being practically followed! Hiyo tu.

Hizo fast za kutangaza tunajua.
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