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How to tell NSE has bottomed out
holycow
#5001 Posted : Monday, May 26, 2014 7:39:35 PM
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hisah wrote:


I repeat, I'm bearish banks...


I hope that means i'll get HFCK sub 35/= and KCB sub 42/=
Kagame
#5002 Posted : Monday, May 26, 2014 9:26:55 PM
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U wish.
Mukiri
#5003 Posted : Monday, May 26, 2014 10:42:54 PM
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When in a hole, stop digging

Proverbs 19:21
CASHFLOW202
#5004 Posted : Tuesday, May 27, 2014 12:26:22 PM
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The NSE20 Share Index -0.56% to close at
4899. Foreign Investors net sellers. Strong
Support around 47000. Tough resistance
around 5000.
Monopoly was the industrial age money game and the name of the new game of money today in the information age is CASHFLOW
Othelo
#5005 Posted : Tuesday, May 27, 2014 12:35:19 PM
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CASHFLOW202 wrote:
The NSE20 Share Index -0.56% to close at
4899. Foreign Investors net sellers. Strong
Support around 4700. Tough resistance
around 5000.

Formal education will make you a living. Self-education will make you a fortune - Jim Rohn.
hisah
#5006 Posted : Tuesday, May 27, 2014 3:27:31 PM
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At this point I apply a wait and see approach. I don't like the monkey business going on at CMA, the KES weakness and the eurobond cloudiness...

http://bit.ly/1htNU8I - CMA drama as per Substandard.
$15/barrel oil... The commodities lehman moment arrives as well as Sovereign debt volcano!
Aguytrying
#5007 Posted : Tuesday, May 27, 2014 10:18:41 PM
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hisah wrote:
At this point I apply a wait and see approach. I don't like the monkey business going on at CMA, the KES weakness and the eurobond cloudiness...

http://bit.ly/1htNU8I - CMA drama as per Substandard.


the bearishness is palpable now. highlighted by akina kplc, kengen, Kenya re. the weaklings go down fast.
and the cma and Eurobond make it a poisonous chalice. let's see.
The investor's chief problem - and even his worst enemy - is likely to be himself
hisah
#5008 Posted : Wednesday, May 28, 2014 6:29:54 AM
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Aguytrying wrote:
hisah wrote:
At this point I apply a wait and see approach. I don't like the monkey business going on at CMA, the KES weakness and the eurobond cloudiness...

http://bit.ly/1htNU8I - CMA drama as per Substandard.


the bearishness is palpable now. highlighted by akina kplc, kengen, Kenya re. the weaklings go down fast.
and the cma and Eurobond make it a poisonous chalice. let's see.

Not forgetting TPS. I'm questioning the 2015 upside for KE. The econ looks headed for a slump eurobond or not. Job cuts, defensive industrials, food security, NPLs bulging in bank books, tourism slump, devolution confusion with governors on endless impeachment hit list.

From this outlook the bad shaving will arise as the stark reality hits around Q4 2014 spilling over into 2015.

What will the banks do? Hiking lending rates risks bad debts atomic blow up scenario. How will they soak in those NPLs with shrinking income? Sustained industrial slump leads to deflation. This cocktail, the treasury will not find pleasant esp if some financial firms fall into distress needing a bailout.

My views are extreme, but what stops them from arising?
$15/barrel oil... The commodities lehman moment arrives as well as Sovereign debt volcano!
Aguytrying
#5009 Posted : Wednesday, May 28, 2014 9:18:17 AM
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hisah wrote:
Aguytrying wrote:
hisah wrote:
At this point I apply a wait and see approach. I don't like the monkey business going on at CMA, the KES weakness and the eurobond cloudiness...

http://bit.ly/1htNU8I - CMA drama as per Substandard.


the bearishness is palpable now. highlighted by akina kplc, kengen, Kenya re. the weaklings go down fast.
and the cma and Eurobond make it a poisonous chalice. let's see.

Not forgetting TPS. I'm questioning the 2015 upside for KE. The econ looks headed for a slump eurobond or not. Job cuts, defensive industrials, food security, NPLs bulging in bank books, tourism slump, devolution confusion with governors on endless impeachment hit list.

From this outlook the bad shaving will arise as the stark reality hits around Q4 2014 spilling over into 2015.

What will the banks do? Hiking lending rates risks bad debts atomic blow up scenario. How will they soak in those NPLs with shrinking income? Sustained industrial slump leads to deflation. This cocktail, the treasury will not find pleasant esp if some financial firms fall into distress needing a bailout.

My views are extreme, but what stops them from arising?


TPS is really taking it to the chin. the half year results will tell the story. the clouds are certainly gathering, speculators stand warned
The investor's chief problem - and even his worst enemy - is likely to be himself
mlennyma
#5010 Posted : Wednesday, May 28, 2014 11:50:03 AM
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Kenya power investors will wait longer to get returns for their investment if wat ruto talks about it is anything to go by,as long as this gvt remains in office the power company will never have independence in decision making,now the dp wants connections down halfway and finally free..why can't the gvt just buy all the shares and stop frustrating investors?
"Don't let the fear of losing be greater than the excitement of winning."
mwekez@ji
#5011 Posted : Wednesday, May 28, 2014 12:02:44 PM
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mlennyma wrote:
Kenya power investors will wait longer to get returns for their investment if wat ruto talks about it is anything to go by,as long as this gvt remains in office the power company will never have independence in decision making,now the dp wants connections down halfway and finally free..why can't the gvt just buy all the shares and stop frustrating investors?


Provided gava will pay for the subsidy all is alright ... Counter is well beaten IMHO. Its a good BUY
Murang'a
#5012 Posted : Wednesday, May 28, 2014 1:49:52 PM
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mwekez@ji wrote:
mlennyma wrote:
Kenya power investors will wait longer to get returns for their investment if wat ruto talks about it is anything to go by,as long as this gvt remains in office the power company will never have independence in decision making,now the dp wants connections down halfway and finally free..why can't the gvt just buy all the shares and stop frustrating investors?


Provided gava will pay for the subsidy all is alright ... Counter is well beaten IMHO. Its a good BUY

link http://www.standardmedia...rns-kenya-power-cartels
who are these cartels he is talking about?
IMITATION IS LIMITATION
mlennyma
#5013 Posted : Wednesday, May 28, 2014 2:46:07 PM
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The cartels buy a power post at 3,000 and sell it at 20,000 he said.
"Don't let the fear of losing be greater than the excitement of winning."
Pesa Nane
#5014 Posted : Wednesday, May 28, 2014 3:17:14 PM
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d'oh! d'oh! d'oh! d'oh! d'oh! d'oh!

CASHFLOW202 wrote:
The NSE20 Share Index -0.56% to close at
4899. Foreign Investors net sellers. Strong
Support around 47000. Tough resistance
around 5000.


Pesa Nane plans to be shilingi when he grows up.
hisah
#5015 Posted : Wednesday, May 28, 2014 3:58:35 PM
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mwekez@ji wrote:
mlennyma wrote:
Kenya power investors will wait longer to get returns for their investment if wat ruto talks about it is anything to go by,as long as this gvt remains in office the power company will never have independence in decision making,now the dp wants connections down halfway and finally free..why can't the gvt just buy all the shares and stop frustrating investors?


Provided gava will pay for the subsidy all is alright ... Counter is well beaten IMHO. Its a good BUY

Bargains coming back smile
$15/barrel oil... The commodities lehman moment arrives as well as Sovereign debt volcano!
DBLyon
#5016 Posted : Wednesday, May 28, 2014 7:14:02 PM
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hisah wrote:

Bargains coming back smile


Hmmm...methinks some counters are already at the bottom like Kenya Power - or will it get worse? But let the bargains come. Drool
When you live for others' opinions, you are dead.

- Carlos Slim Helu
mwekez@ji
#5017 Posted : Thursday, May 29, 2014 10:51:52 AM
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hisah wrote:
mwekez@ji wrote:
mlennyma wrote:
Kenya power investors will wait longer to get returns for their investment if wat ruto talks about it is anything to go by,as long as this gvt remains in office the power company will never have independence in decision making,now the dp wants connections down halfway and finally free..why can't the gvt just buy all the shares and stop frustrating investors?


Provided gava will pay for the subsidy all is alright ... Counter is well beaten IMHO. Its a good BUY

Bargains coming back smile

smile Hapo sawa
Pesa Nane
#5018 Posted : Thursday, May 29, 2014 12:08:12 PM
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Meanwhile KCB doing crazy numbers; 18,973,200 shares as at midday. 10,597,700 more shares on bid.
Pesa Nane plans to be shilingi when he grows up.
wanyee
#5019 Posted : Thursday, May 29, 2014 12:40:39 PM
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KORCH will stagnate at 21 bob..
hisah
#5020 Posted : Thursday, May 29, 2014 7:00:29 PM
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Turbo vol in Apr happened to mpesa bank. Today it happened to simba with 28M shares traded at 1.4B turnover. Other turbo vols have been member, ARM, EABL and NMG late 2013. Billion plus turnover day trades...

These vol spikes, pay close attention. If we rally it'll be with strong legs. If we breakdown it'll be a hard fall.

Waiting for that TA triangle pattern to get resolved.
$15/barrel oil... The commodities lehman moment arrives as well as Sovereign debt volcano!
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