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guru267		#61 Posted : Tuesday, May 27, 2014 11:50:03 PM
Rank: Elder Joined: 1/21/2010 Posts: 6,675 Location: Nairobi		Jus Blazin wrote: My question is your understanding of SAME MOTHER. Half Siblings, yes. But same mother. Kwani what cheap stuff are you "jus blazin" tonight?? Yes the woman already has children and after having children with the the foster father who has no relationship to her former husband all the children are hers.. But some belong to the foster father and some to the foster son WHO HAVE NO RELATIONSHIP! Is it the English which is hard?? Kwani a divorced or widowed woman cannot re marry a man who absolutely no relationship to her husband like his foster father?? I still right through you and you got nothing but solid ground here in Islam! Mark 12:29 Deuteronomy 4:16
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Jus Blazin		#62 Posted : Tuesday, May 27, 2014 11:51:36 PM
Rank: Elder Joined: 10/23/2008 Posts: 3,966		guru267 wrote: This is proof that one or two intellectuals can face an army of retards and remain stansding... Guys I accept you want to tarnish Islam but put your backs into it if you want any hope of succeeding! You can't honestly tell me this is all you have got! And therein lies your problem. Personally I don't have a problem with Islam or Muslims and I would never trash it coz, truthfully, just like Hinduism, Buddhism, Judaism, it never affects me. I have many friends who follow Islam. To me, it's never a question of us against them. We debate to understand. Luck is when Preparation meets Opportunity. ~ Lucius Annaeus Seneca
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masukuma		#63 Posted : Tuesday, May 27, 2014 11:53:13 PM
Rank: Elder Joined: 10/4/2006 Posts: 13,823 Location: Nairobi		what shocks me is that people fall over themselves to defend bedroom habits of great great great great...grand fathers of other people... All Mushrooms are edible! Some Mushroom are only edible ONCE!
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Jus Blazin		#64 Posted : Tuesday, May 27, 2014 11:53:39 PM
Rank: Elder Joined: 10/23/2008 Posts: 3,966		guru267 wrote: Jus Blazin wrote: My question is your understanding of SAME MOTHER. Half Siblings, yes. But same mother. Kwani what cheap stuff are you "jus blazin" tonight?? Yes the woman already has children and after having children with the the foster father who has no relationship to her former husband all the children are hers.. But some belong to the foster father and some to the foster son WHO HAVE NO RELATIONSHIP! Is it the English which is hard?? Kwani a divorced or widowed woman cannot re marry a man who absolutely no relationship to her husband like his foster father?? I still right through you and you got nothing but solid ground here in Islam! Forget Islam here, shall we? I asked what's the relationship between the two children of same mother but fathered by a foster father and his son? Forget Islam please, I have nothing against it. Luck is when Preparation meets Opportunity. ~ Lucius Annaeus Seneca
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guru267		#65 Posted : Wednesday, May 28, 2014 12:13:57 AM
Rank: Elder Joined: 1/21/2010 Posts: 6,675 Location: Nairobi		Jus Blazin wrote: Forget Islam here, shall we? I asked what's the relationship between the two children of same mother but fathered by a foster father and his son? Forget Islam please, I have nothing against it. Ok before we can forget Islam can you agree that fostering children is not adopting children?????????????????????????? A foster child legally has no father and no mother... A foster child is legally an orphan... So a foster child can have many foster fathers and many foster mothers as he grows up!! Are we ok until there?? If the foster child gets married that means his wife has no legal father in law and no mother in law and their children have no legal grandparents.. sawa?? If the foster child divorces and his wife and she remarries one of his foster fathers then her children will be HALF SIBLINGS with different legal fathers who have NO LEGAL relationship with each other! Please tell me it has finally sunk in Mark 12:29 Deuteronomy 4:16
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guru267		#66 Posted : Wednesday, May 28, 2014 12:16:38 AM
Rank: Elder Joined: 1/21/2010 Posts: 6,675 Location: Nairobi		masukuma wrote: what shocks me is that people fall over themselves to defend bedroom habits of great great great great...grand fathers of other people... True Muslims will always defend their prophet.. Ask the crusaders about Muslims and they will shit on themselves in the grave! Mark 12:29 Deuteronomy 4:16
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symbols		#67 Posted : Wednesday, May 28, 2014 7:26:38 AM
Rank: Elder Joined: 3/19/2013 Posts: 2,552		guru267 wrote: Here I only respond with laughter.. You guys must know you are shooting yourselves in the foot! The insults aside,I'm surprised you and AlphDoti don't see you've also been doing that most of the time since Islam is linked to Christianity and Judaism.Claiming a book is corrupted and then referring to it only insults your case.You can't produce the very word of God you're championing for. You can't prove that Islam is from God or Muhammad was His prophet.You can only take the Qu'ran and the Hadiths on faith and believe they are from God and free from the same forces of corruption especially at compilation.In this context,it only affirms the fact that the ways of God are beyond Islam,Christianity and Judaism.Can you deny that?
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kyt		#68 Posted : Wednesday, May 28, 2014 8:18:08 AM
Rank: Elder Joined: 11/7/2007 Posts: 2,182		I am not a muslim or a christian but in my own view; again I could be wrong; marrying a 9 yr old is somehow twisted. 9 years is young kinda young. LOVE WHAT YOU DO, DO WHAT YOU LOVE.
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Jus Blazin		#69 Posted : Wednesday, May 28, 2014 8:31:07 AM
Rank: Elder Joined: 10/23/2008 Posts: 3,966		symbols wrote: guru267 wrote: Here I only respond with laughter.. You guys must know you are shooting yourselves in the foot! The insults aside,I'm surprised you and AlphDoti don't see you've also been doing that most of the time since Islam is linked to Christianity and Judaism.Claiming a book is corrupted and then referring to it only insults your case.You can't produce the very word of God you're championing for. You can't prove that Islam is from God or Muhammad was His prophet.You can only take the Qu'ran and the Hadiths on faith and believe they are from God and free from the same forces of corruption especially at compilation.In this context,it only affirms the fact that the ways of God are beyond Islam,Christianity and Judaism.Can you deny that? Trust me, she can. Her defense is like a bunker. Luck is when Preparation meets Opportunity. ~ Lucius Annaeus Seneca
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Lolest!		#70 Posted : Wednesday, May 28, 2014 9:43:46 AM
Rank: Elder Joined: 3/18/2011 Posts: 12,069 Location: Kianjokoma		I can see the new line of defense is misuse of emoticons. The insults terrorism are not working. Pole sana. We are understanding the prophet. The one you call The Prophet. Zayd was Muhammad's adopted son. Muhammad said before many witnesses at the kaaba: Quote: Witness that Zayd becomes my son, with mutual rights of inheritance. After this Zayd changed his name to Zayd ibn Muhammad.(Zayd son of Muhammad) Then Muhammad lusted after Zayd's wife, Zaynab. If we are to follow Jesus' words, we'd say he had commited adultery with Zaynab in his heart.(Matthew 5:27-28) We will get back to Matthew 5 later on. Many have never understood that portion of scripture. Especially Muslims. So after lusting after Zaynab, Zayd is unable to further meet his conjugal obligations to her. He never touched her and wanted to divorce her. Muhammad tells him not to but Zayd divorces her anyway.(Zayd was told by Zaynab about some comments made by Muhammad when Muhammad saw Zaynab undressed) After this, Muhammad faints while talking to another of his wives. He comes back smiling and claims that Allah has given Zaynab to him in marriage!! It is after this marriage to a divorced wife of his son that Islam abolished adoption! Which is why guru is leading us to split hairs on adoption, fostering etc to cover the sins done then. Zayd ibn Muhammad reverted to his old name Zayd ibn Harithah after Muhammad received a revelation on adoption AFTER he had taken his son's wife.
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