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guru267		#41 Posted : Tuesday, May 27, 2014 7:15:01 PM
Rank: Elder Joined: 1/21/2010 Posts: 6,675 Location: Nairobi		kyt wrote: what is wrong with guru a son is a son; wether akuwe foster; adopted; kidnapped; born ama whatever. A SON IS A SON PERIOD!! wacha za ovyo guru. @kyt what's wrong with you?? Did you skyve too many English classes or what?? You have also decided to display ignorance so that you can Insult the prophet! You are only exposing yourselves unfortunately... A begotten son will never be a foster son! Let me use an example that you will understand! Jesus is the begotten son of God! Jesus is also the foster son of Joseph! I know some of your thick skulls can only absorb Christian examples! Now that is cleared up.. Please show me how it is taboo to marry your FOSTER son's wife and Wallahi I will leave Islam today! Mark 12:29 Deuteronomy 4:16
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Lolest!		#42 Posted : Tuesday, May 27, 2014 7:54:50 PM
Rank: Elder Joined: 3/18/2011 Posts: 12,069 Location: Kianjokoma		LOOOL madam wants us to get her proof that there was a taboo in the Arab world while she has no qualms throwing at us 'facts' like Joseph was 90 when Mary was 12. I guess the proof is in an Islamic website and what imams teach! Zaid was adopted by Muhammad. Muhammad lusted after Zaid's wife, Zaynab. Somehow, they divorced and Muhammad got to marry Zaynab!!
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Bykhovets		#43 Posted : Tuesday, May 27, 2014 8:15:08 PM
Rank: Member Joined: 5/17/2014 Posts: 231		guru267 wrote: ecstacy wrote: If two consenting adults of the same sex decide to sleep together in the privacy of their bedroom, what does that have to do with you ms guru? If you are ok with anuses getting ripped apart in your country then that's ok with me and you may all continue in peace! If a certain country only wishes to avoid a Sodom and Gomorrah style attack from God and they put to death anyone doing an ass ripping exercise within borders why can't they do this in peace?? Or to "think freely" is defined by ones acceptance for anal invasions in their countries?? ecstacy wrote: BTW: Just to stretch it even, maybe some guy is likely enjoying anal sex with you before declaring fatwas on others come morning. Tofauti ni nini hapo nyuma? Islam prohibits anal sex so is this person doing this to my dead body or?? 2 out 4 of the Turkish men I know (all muslims) are gay. The other two are married and they visit a brothel whenever they can. Most muslim girls who are not married have anal sex with their companions. This is a known fact. Ask @Swenani. There is a stark difference between religion and reality. "Occasionally I drop a tea cup to shatter on the floor. On purpose. I am not satisfied when it does not gather itself up again. Someday perhaps that cup will come together."
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Mukiri		#44 Posted : Tuesday, May 27, 2014 8:36:00 PM
Rank: Elder Joined: 7/11/2012 Posts: 5,222		Lolest! wrote: LOOOL madam wants us to get her proof that there was a taboo in the Arab world while she has no qualms throwing at us 'facts' like Joseph was 90 when Mary was 12. I guess the proof is in an Islamic website and what imams teach! Zaid was adopted by Muhammad. Muhammad lusted after Zaid's wife, Zaynab. Somehow, they divorced and Muhammad got to marry Zaynab!! I didn't know much about Islam till I watched the documentary and started reading about their prophet. After that jamaa moved to Medina, most of his so called revelations were self-serving. He came up with absurd new rules, to circumvent the existing ones, so as to get away with his excesses. Absolute power corrupts. He became a top dog, then puffed-up to a war lord and womanizer. Old guy chewing spring chicken and hiding under revelations. Proverbs 19:21
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Jus Blazin		#45 Posted : Tuesday, May 27, 2014 8:54:46 PM
Rank: Elder Joined: 10/23/2008 Posts: 3,966		guru267 wrote: kyt wrote: what is wrong with guru a son is a son; wether akuwe foster; adopted; kidnapped; born ama whatever. A SON IS A SON PERIOD!! wacha za ovyo guru. @kyt what's wrong with you?? Did you skyve too many English classes or what?? You have also decided to display ignorance so that you can Insult the prophet! You are only exposing yourselves unfortunately... A begotten son will never be a foster son! Let me use an example that you will understand! Jesus is the begotten son of God! Jesus is also the foster son of Joseph! I know some of your thick skulls can only absorb Christian examples! Now that is cleared up.. Please show me how it is taboo to marry your FOSTER son's wife and Wallahi I will leave Islam today! The key thing is the word SON. Whether begotten or foster, a son is a son. Imagine the confusion that ensues when a father marries the daughter in law who has a child. Now the child gets a brother who is the father's son. How does that pan out? Is that covered under jurisprudence? Luck is when Preparation meets Opportunity. ~ Lucius Annaeus Seneca
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Jus Blazin		#46 Posted : Tuesday, May 27, 2014 9:04:55 PM
Rank: Elder Joined: 10/23/2008 Posts: 3,966		guru267 wrote: Jus Blazin wrote: guru267 wrote: It is a very simple request! Vacate ALL Muslim lands and see a very peaceful world.. Ama?? Which are these Muslim lands? I thought you just said Islam knows no nationality or race? Or did you mean vacate Arabian territories? A Muslim land is any land that has a majority of Muslims who desire Sharia as their law! So whoever doesn't desire sharia law must vacate? I think you are confusing that with Arabian territories, because there are Muslim states that don't follow Sharia law. Are those still Muslim lands? So, as a hypothetical example, Kenya, with all the tribes has a muslim majority. The leaders then impose sharia law. Does it mean the land becomes Muslim land and all those tribes have to vacate if they aren't the religion's followers? I am seeking to understand. Luck is when Preparation meets Opportunity. ~ Lucius Annaeus Seneca
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guru267		#47 Posted : Tuesday, May 27, 2014 9:25:29 PM
Rank: Elder Joined: 1/21/2010 Posts: 6,675 Location: Nairobi		Jus Blazin wrote: guru267 wrote: Jus Blazin wrote: guru267 wrote: It is a very simple request! Vacate ALL Muslim lands and see a very peaceful world.. Ama?? Which are these Muslim lands? I thought you just said Islam knows no nationality or race? Or did you mean vacate Arabian territories? A Muslim land is any land that has a majority of Muslims who desire Sharia as their law! So whoever doesn't desire sharia law must vacate? I think you are confusing that with Arabian territories, because there are Muslim states that don't follow Sharia law. Are those still Muslim lands? So, as a hypothetical example, Kenya, with all the tribes has a muslim majority. The leaders then impose sharia law. Does it mean the land becomes Muslim land and all those tribes have to vacate if they aren't the religion's followers? I am seeking to understand. Maybe you misunderstood me! Kenya is a Non Muslim land... Majority of Kenyans DO NOT embrace Islam, Kenya is governed by a constitution voted in by this same majority... Islam is practiced here as only as one of the rights to worship.. Not to govern! That said Muslims living in the state of Kenya are obliged to follow all local laws even if they may contradict with Sharia if unhappy they can emigrate to a Muslim country... In cases like Northern Kenya and Northern Nigeria sometimes the only Solution is a North South split like Sudan unless people negotiate... Right now Kiir and Machar boys are slaughtering each other as Bashir sleeps soundly at night! My point is if Kenya wants to keep its territories it should strive to treat all citizens equal! Mark 12:29 Deuteronomy 4:16
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guru267		#48 Posted : Tuesday, May 27, 2014 9:43:08 PM
Rank: Elder Joined: 1/21/2010 Posts: 6,675 Location: Nairobi		Jus Blazin wrote: guru267 wrote: kyt wrote: what is wrong with guru a son is a son; wether akuwe foster; adopted; kidnapped; born ama whatever. A SON IS A SON PERIOD!! wacha za ovyo guru. @kyt what's wrong with you?? Did you skyve too many English classes or what?? You have also decided to display ignorance so that you can Insult the prophet! You are only exposing yourselves unfortunately... A begotten son will never be a foster son! Let me use an example that you will understand! Jesus is the begotten son of God! Jesus is also the foster son of Joseph! I know some of your thick skulls can only absorb Christian examples! Now that is cleared up.. Please show me how it is taboo to marry your FOSTER son's wife and Wallahi I will leave Islam today! The key thing is the word SON. Whether begotten or foster, a son is a son. Imagine the confusion that ensues when a father marries the daughter in law who has a child. Now the child gets a brother who is the father's son. How does that pan out? Is that covered under jurisprudence? Yaani Kenyans lack this much exposure... Ignorance galore to demonize the sacred prophet Have you ever heard of the foster system in USA?? Do you think its the same as adoption?? Is that where your ignorance is fighting with you? In what way does one acknowledge a foster child as their son or daughter.. I thought that was ILLEGAL! Those kids come in the house and they know their place! In Islam a foster child will NEVER be your child.. You have a responsibility of bringing them up with knowledge of their real family and all foster daughters must cover in front of foster fathers! I'm waiting for the next thing you have to throw at the prophet! Mark 12:29 Deuteronomy 4:16
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Jus Blazin		#49 Posted : Tuesday, May 27, 2014 9:50:01 PM
Rank: Elder Joined: 10/23/2008 Posts: 3,966		guru267 wrote: Jus Blazin wrote: guru267 wrote: Jus Blazin wrote: guru267 wrote: It is a very simple request! Vacate ALL Muslim lands and see a very peaceful world.. Ama?? Which are these Muslim lands? I thought you just said Islam knows no nationality or race? Or did you mean vacate Arabian territories? A Muslim land is any land that has a majority of Muslims who desire Sharia as their law! So whoever doesn't desire sharia law must vacate? I think you are confusing that with Arabian territories, because there are Muslim states that don't follow Sharia law. Are those still Muslim lands? So, as a hypothetical example, Kenya, with all the tribes has a muslim majority. The leaders then impose sharia law. Does it mean the land becomes Muslim land and all those tribes have to vacate if they aren't the religion's followers? I am seeking to understand. Maybe you misunderstood me! Kenya is a Non Muslim land... Majority of Kenyans DO NOT embrace Islam, Kenya is governed by a constitution voted in by this same majority... Islam is practiced here as only as one of the rights to worship.. Not to govern! That said Muslims living in the state of Kenya are obliged to follow all local laws even if they may contradict with Sharia if unhappy they can emigrate to a Muslim country... In cases like Northern Kenya and Northern Nigeria sometimes the only Solution is a North South split like Sudan unless people negotiate... Right now Kiir and Machar boys are slaughtering each other as Bashir sleeps soundly at night! My point is if Kenya wants to keep its territories it should strive to treat all citizens equal! What about the hypothetical question? And on a serious note, I'm seeking enlightenment. Luck is when Preparation meets Opportunity. ~ Lucius Annaeus Seneca
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Ngong		#50 Posted : Tuesday, May 27, 2014 10:09:58 PM
Rank: Veteran Joined: 11/17/2012 Posts: 1,461 Location: Ngong Forest		Lol! Affricans at their best, Apping!
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