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masukuma		#21 Posted : Monday, May 26, 2014 1:58:19 PM
Rank: Elder Joined: 10/4/2006 Posts: 13,823 Location: Nairobi		If you do some digging you will actually find people who link the 'Iēsous' translation of Yeshua to to 'Zeus' stating that 'Iēsous actually means 'Hail Zeus'. Some refrain from using 'Jesus' to address 'Yeshua' as it is a nick name given to him by the Hellenic people extracted from their Pagan god. All Mushrooms are edible! Some Mushroom are only edible ONCE!
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AlphDoti		#22 Posted : Monday, May 26, 2014 2:02:18 PM
Rank: Elder Joined: 6/20/2008 Posts: 6,275 Location: Kenya		mwenza wrote: Caveman wrote: Impunity wrote: guru267 wrote: Impunity wrote: His church refused to baptised his only son aged 8 months coz the son is named Jesus! Jeeeez!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Video Rink If you guys believe Jesus is God then how can your child be called God?? We have @Jesus Navas in Man City. and why do you muslims call just almost all male children Mohamed/Mohamud/Mahmad/Mohaa/Moamed/Ahmejinebad? The Man City player name is pronounced 'Je' as in Jembe and 'sus' as in susu. Note the difference The "Je" is actually pronounced as "He" as in "hekalu". @mwenza tell them. The "J" sickness of the those who were translating the Bible. They have a sickness of adding and removing and translating names!! Because a name does not change from day to day, from time to time, from place to place or from translation to translation. An apple is apple in China, and it does not become an orange in America. If Jesus (pbuh) never heard the name (Jesus). He never heard the word Christ This came from Hebrew Messiah, translated Christos in Greek, the eventually translted Christ in English. If he came back today and @Mukiri calls him "Jesus! Jesus!" He won't know you are referring to him!!
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nakujua		#23 Posted : Monday, May 26, 2014 2:04:01 PM
Rank: Elder Joined: 12/17/2009 Posts: 3,583 Location: Kenya		guru267 wrote: nakujua wrote: nani anajua, what the full names of Jesus were when he was on earth. In Islam it is "Issa ibn Maryam" or "Jesus son of Mary" and what were the full names of Muhammad ? at least for the Buddhists I know Siddhartha Gautama Buddha.
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guru267		#24 Posted : Monday, May 26, 2014 2:07:54 PM
Rank: Elder Joined: 1/21/2010 Posts: 6,675 Location: Nairobi		nakujua wrote: guru267 wrote: nakujua wrote: nani anajua, what the full names of Jesus were when he was on earth. In Islam it is "Issa ibn Maryam" or "Jesus son of Mary" and what were the full names of Muhammad ? at least for the Buddhists I know Siddhartha Gautama Buddha. "Muhammad ibn Abdullah" or "Muhammad son of Abdullah" Mark 12:29 Deuteronomy 4:16
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AlphDoti		#25 Posted : Monday, May 26, 2014 2:08:46 PM
Rank: Elder Joined: 6/20/2008 Posts: 6,275 Location: Kenya		masukuma wrote: guru267 wrote: masukuma wrote: guru267 wrote: Impunity wrote: guru267 wrote: Impunity wrote: His church refused to baptised his only son aged 8 months coz the son is named Jesus! Jeeeez!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Video Rink If you guys believe Jesus is God then how can your child be called God?? We have @Jesus Navas in Man City. and why do you muslims call just almost all male children Mohamed/Mohamud/Mahmad/Mohaa/Moamed/Ahmejinebad? Because Muhammad was just a man... To us he was never and will never be God! Naming your child Muhammad is like naming your child Moses or David! However if Jesus is not a man but is God according to you guys how can you dare equate your child to God Almighty!? One would only name their child Jesus if deep down they knew he wasn't God! why do you declare fatwas on people who attempt to draw him? Muhammad banned drawing images of him and all other prophets so that we would avoid falling into the same trap as the Christians of worshiping those images after his death! In Islam we cannot also draw Christ but the Christians have already taken it upon themselves and even gone as far as drawing images of God Almighty! Who gave him the power to 'ban' then? He was just human like you and me - right? Was he instructed by God to 'ban' or did he just think it was a good idea? @masukuma who gave him the power/permission? Exodus 20:1-26 And God spoke all these words, saying: "I am the Lord your God... I'm the Only God, there is no other" (which the church violated by trinity) - "Do not draw, or mould, or carve or ... images of anything in heaven, air, water and earth" (which the church violated) - "Do not bow down to those things" (which the church violated) I'm amazed you don't know in the Bible and what it teaches. The ten commandments of God my friend!
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guru267		#26 Posted : Monday, May 26, 2014 2:10:23 PM
Rank: Elder Joined: 1/21/2010 Posts: 6,675 Location: Nairobi		masukuma wrote: If you do some digging you will actually find people who link the 'Iēsous' translation of Yeshua to to 'Zeus' stating that 'Iēsous actually means 'Hail Zeus'. Some refrain from using 'Jesus' to address 'Yeshua' as it is a nick name given to him by the Hellenic people extracted from their Pagan god. You have "Saint" Paul to thank for that perversion! I always wondered why he felt the need to translate Hebrew and Aramaic to Greek and its starting to become clearer now! Mark 12:29 Deuteronomy 4:16
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guru267		#27 Posted : Monday, May 26, 2014 2:14:03 PM
Rank: Elder Joined: 1/21/2010 Posts: 6,675 Location: Nairobi		masukuma wrote: guru267 wrote: masukuma wrote: guru267 wrote: Impunity wrote: guru267 wrote: Impunity wrote: His church refused to baptised his only son aged 8 months coz the son is named Jesus! Jeeeez!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Video Rink If you guys believe Jesus is God then how can your child be called God?? We have @Jesus Navas in Man City. and why do you muslims call just almost all male children Mohamed/Mohamud/Mahmad/Mohaa/Moamed/Ahmejinebad? Because Muhammad was just a man... To us he was never and will never be God! Naming your child Muhammad is like naming your child Moses or David! However if Jesus is not a man but is God according to you guys how can you dare equate your child to God Almighty!? One would only name their child Jesus if deep down they knew he wasn't God! why do you declare fatwas on people who attempt to draw him? Muhammad banned drawing images of him and all other prophets so that we would avoid falling into the same trap as the Christians of worshiping those images after his death! In Islam we cannot also draw Christ but the Christians have already taken it upon themselves and even gone as far as drawing images of God Almighty! Who gave him the power to 'ban' then? He was just human like you and me - right? Was he instructed by God to 'ban' or did he just think it was a good idea? The Christians were the first since Abraham to draw images and make statues and then they started worshiping them! Thank God we avoided that trap of Lucifer! Mark 12:29 Deuteronomy 4:16
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masukuma		#28 Posted : Monday, May 26, 2014 2:19:54 PM
Rank: Elder Joined: 10/4/2006 Posts: 13,823 Location: Nairobi		AlphDoti wrote: masukuma wrote: guru267 wrote: masukuma wrote: guru267 wrote: Impunity wrote: guru267 wrote: Impunity wrote: His church refused to baptised his only son aged 8 months coz the son is named Jesus! Jeeeez!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Video Rink If you guys believe Jesus is God then how can your child be called God?? We have @Jesus Navas in Man City. and why do you muslims call just almost all male children Mohamed/Mohamud/Mahmad/Mohaa/Moamed/Ahmejinebad? Because Muhammad was just a man... To us he was never and will never be God! Naming your child Muhammad is like naming your child Moses or David! However if Jesus is not a man but is God according to you guys how can you dare equate your child to God Almighty!? One would only name their child Jesus if deep down they knew he wasn't God! why do you declare fatwas on people who attempt to draw him? Muhammad banned drawing images of him and all other prophets so that we would avoid falling into the same trap as the Christians of worshiping those images after his death! In Islam we cannot also draw Christ but the Christians have already taken it upon themselves and even gone as far as drawing images of God Almighty! Who gave him the power to 'ban' then? He was just human like you and me - right? Was he instructed by God to 'ban' or did he just think it was a good idea? @masukuma who gave him the power/permission? Exodus 20:1-26 And God spoke all these words, saying: "I am the Lord your God... I'm the Only God, there is no other" (which the church violated by trinity) - "Do not draw, or mould, or carve or ... images of anything in heaven, air, water and earth" (which the church violated) - "Do not bow down to those things" (which the church violated) I'm amazed you don't know in the Bible and what it teaches. The ten commandments of God my friend! Boss I know the bible, I know the 10 commandments well. The graven images you are talking about is because people of that time would worship anything that was made by men (why am I explaining to you?) still the same bible commands that people should not keep their hair unkempt. should not cut hair or beard, should not eat fruit from a tree 4 years from planting it e.t.c. so how does this relate to drawing Moha? All Mushrooms are edible! Some Mushroom are only edible ONCE!
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masukuma		#29 Posted : Monday, May 26, 2014 2:22:56 PM
Rank: Elder Joined: 10/4/2006 Posts: 13,823 Location: Nairobi		guru267 wrote: masukuma wrote: If you do some digging you will actually find people who link the 'Iēsous' translation of Yeshua to to 'Zeus' stating that 'Iēsous actually means 'Hail Zeus'. Some refrain from using 'Jesus' to address 'Yeshua' as it is a nick name given to him by the Hellenic people extracted from their Pagan god. You have "Saint" Paul to thank for that perversion! I always wondered why he felt the need to translate Hebrew and Aramaic to Greek and its starting to become clearer now! do your study well - it was not Paul who wrote the septuagint. Paul just wrote a number of letters to certain churches that were later collated and added to the canon. he was long dead (killed) by then. Muslims love tarnishing that guy and the guy was not even attempting to write scriptures when he was writing those letters. All Mushrooms are edible! Some Mushroom are only edible ONCE!
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Lolest!		#30 Posted : Monday, May 26, 2014 2:30:22 PM
Rank: Elder Joined: 3/18/2011 Posts: 12,069 Location: Kianjokoma		On another thread Sheikh told me toi watch who starts these arguments btwn Christians and Muslims. It is clear from first reply to this thread. Now to Jesus, the name. As some have correctly put it, it is derived from Yeshua which is the same name as Joshua. Jesus was a common name in the days Jesus the Christ lived and others are mentioned in the bible. The name Jesus doesn't mean God!
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