@birdma, what kenyans should be asking is
1. what is the correct/legal way to move unutilised idle land from govt to private sector?
At the time this land was appropriated, what was the legal way to do it? was Moi's/commissioner for lands word all that was legally needed? Are current laws sufficient to assist this or more laws are needed?
2. what parameters should be used to describe govt lands as idle/unutilised?
3. should the allocation be through bidding/highest bidder etc?
4. what are the pros and cons of appropriating underutilized govt lands to the economy?

The day these questions will be tacked by parliament/cs lands is the day kenya would have moved a step ahead to prevent such situations.

@a4 we have had this conversation before. You are still trying to push an agenda that is neither here nor there.

The only person who can even consider that this grabbed land was grabbed because he was going to do a better job is the thief in the first place.

This land was not given out by the gov't. Someone grabbed it.

Gave a few hundred acres to his friends and girlfriend.

He then sold it to NSSF. NSSF bought illegally acquired land, then sold it.

It's not an issue of if or what. It's actually what happened.

If you as an architect can not advise your client as to the status of the land they acquired, then we have a big problem in this country.

This is not the sort of land like the Southern bypass where the gov't has seen that putting a road will do more good than a few lions.

This is a robbery of the state coffers. My taxes.

Now a4 has this misconceived notion that the work of Kenyan citizens is to be happy when people steal land.

I don't think that will fly.

The man who stole should be in court. Again the gov't will sanitize this story. Ati sonko saved. Saved what. Those owners are still holding on to a fake title. Woe unto them if the next president is one who values law and order than cronysm and killing the Kenyan economy.

Those that stole this land should pay.

Then we can have debates about maximum use of land. Not lying to these owners that they are safe now that sonko is going to show up at 9pm news. They aren't safe.

It will happen maybe not today probably over christmas or when Uhuru takes another trip somewhere.

@alma, answer the below questions.

1. in the 90s, were the laws such that commissioner of lands/president had powers to alienate government land to private parties?

2. currently, what are the laws guiding appropriation of govt land to private individuals?

3. how else is a private citizen supposed to check.verify on land ownership if the president/commisioner of lands says that the land is owned by say,NSSF? The president/lands commisioners were the custodians of land registry and if they so wished to make all nairobi lands be in the name of @alma, kenyans had no other choice but to take it that @alma is the land owner or go to court for interpretation or ask parliament to amend the law.

President halts demolition of South B houses
http://www.news24.co.ke/Nationa...-South-B-houses-20140521

@4 contrary to what you think, the laws of land acquisition and conveyancing have changed little since independence.

The laws on land are very clear. There is no need to change them.

What has happened is that some people are more special than others. Can go to a piece of land and say that since this belongs to Kari, it is now mine.

Having the ability to do that does not mean that you are doing it legally.

It is illegal to acquire land the way the South B land was acquired.

You are an architect, please go get the Ndungu report, that piece of land is like an amber alert.