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Mtu Biz		#1 Posted : Tuesday, May 20, 2014 10:37:36 AM
Rank: Veteran Joined: 1/16/2007 Posts: 1,320		Meanwhile at Zetech (stolen from twirra) Zetech Alumni sina ubaya.. Sola Scriptura
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Magigi		#2 Posted : Tuesday, May 20, 2014 10:44:17 AM
Rank: Elder Joined: 3/31/2008 Posts: 7,081 Location: Kenya		Mtu Biz wrote: Meanwhile at Zetech (stolen from twirra) Zetech Alumni sina ubaya.. ...No wonder Joho opted for KIU ... I am told there are some private universities where students are not supposed to fail.
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Magigi		#3 Posted : Tuesday, May 20, 2014 10:49:46 AM
Rank: Elder Joined: 3/31/2008 Posts: 7,081 Location: Kenya		Outside Jogoo house...
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AlphDoti		#4 Posted : Tuesday, May 20, 2014 11:40:37 AM
Rank: Elder Joined: 6/20/2008 Posts: 6,275 Location: Kenya		I don't mind increase in fees. But: 1. Undergraduate fees went up from 16K towards 45K 2. Undergraduate HELB max reduced from 45K to 30K (is this not mandatory?) 3. Postgraduate HELB increased 130K (is this not discretionary?) And the students gave a notice. They should be let to hold the peaceful demonstration #BecauseAmParent
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Rankaz13		#5 Posted : Tuesday, May 20, 2014 12:05:39 PM
Rank: Elder Joined: 5/21/2013 Posts: 2,841 Location: Here		AlphDoti wrote: I don't mind increase in fees. But: 1. Undergraduate fees went up from 16K towards 45K 2. Undergraduate HELB max reduced from 45K to 30K (is this not mandatory?) 3. Postgraduate HELB increased 130K (is this not discretionary?) And the students gave a notice. They should be let to hold the peaceful demonstration #BecauseAmParent I concur. How do they propose to increase fees then lower HELB? Life is like playing a violin solo in public and learning the instrument as one goes on.
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Obi 1 Kanobi		#6 Posted : Tuesday, May 20, 2014 12:13:44 PM
Rank: Elder Joined: 7/23/2008 Posts: 3,017		Mtu Biz wrote: Meanwhile at Zetech (stolen from twirra) Zetech Alumni sina ubaya.. Damn, Wazua really does kill me. struggling to laugh with a sore throat and uncontrollable coughing "The purpose of bureaucracy is to compensate for incompetence and lack of discipline." James Collins
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mdudu		#7 Posted : Tuesday, May 20, 2014 12:16:50 PM
Rank: Member Joined: 7/16/2010 Posts: 158 Location: world		AlphDoti wrote: I don't mind increase in fees. But: 1. Undergraduate fees went up from 16K towards 45K 2. Undergraduate HELB max reduced from 45K to 30K (is this not mandatory?) 3. Postgraduate HELB increased 130K (is this not discretionary?) And the students gave a notice. They should be let to hold the peaceful demonstration #BecauseAmParent Any link on that? If true it can be very unfortunate. There are students who fully depend on HELB for their upkeep at campus and this will hit them very hard.
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MaichBlack		#8 Posted : Tuesday, May 20, 2014 12:20:37 PM
Rank: Elder Joined: 7/22/2009 Posts: 7,467		Magigi wrote: Mtu Biz wrote: Meanwhile at Zetech (stolen from twirra) Zetech Alumni sina ubaya.. ...No wonder Joho opted for KIU ... I am told there are some private universities where students are not supposed to fail. Yeah. I know two church sponsored [well known and been around for sometime] where students are not supposed to fail at all! In a class of 40, if two fail, the lecturer has to write a report!!! true story!!! Moja ni ile ya mapresenter alumni! Nyingine iko the part of "Nairobi" most made fun of. Never count on making a good sale. Have the purchase price be so attractive that even a mediocre sale gives good returns.
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Mtu Biz		#9 Posted : Tuesday, May 20, 2014 12:33:07 PM
Rank: Veteran Joined: 1/16/2007 Posts: 1,320		Deleted.. Sola Scriptura
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willin2learn		#10 Posted : Tuesday, May 20, 2014 1:42:18 PM
Rank: Veteran Joined: 2/12/2008 Posts: 1,178		Mtu Biz wrote: Meanwhile at Zetech (stolen from twirra) Zetech Alumni sina ubaya..
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washiku		#11 Posted : Tuesday, May 20, 2014 1:48:14 PM
Rank: Chief Joined: 5/9/2007 Posts: 13,095		Rankaz13 wrote: AlphDoti wrote: I don't mind increase in fees. But: 1. Undergraduate fees went up from 16K towards 45K 2. Undergraduate HELB max reduced from 45K to 30K (is this not mandatory?) 3. Postgraduate HELB increased 130K (is this not discretionary?) And the students gave a notice. They should be let to hold the peaceful demonstration #BecauseAmParent I concur. How do they propose to increase fees then lower HELB? Will this country ever get to a point where decisions are made through dialogue and logic? Have these increases even been gazetted or approved whichever it is they are supposed to be? Could there be a middle ground? By the way kwani the maximum HELB was reduced? I thought there were guys who used to get 60k. A needy child's education depends on you. Click here to assist
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Pastor M		#12 Posted : Tuesday, May 20, 2014 3:01:08 PM
Rank: Member Joined: 8/18/2009 Posts: 303		washiku wrote: Rankaz13 wrote: AlphDoti wrote: I don't mind increase in fees. But: 1. Undergraduate fees went up from 16K towards 45K 2. Undergraduate HELB max reduced from 45K to 30K (is this not mandatory?) 3. Postgraduate HELB increased 130K (is this not discretionary?) And the students gave a notice. They should be let to hold the peaceful demonstration #BecauseAmParent I concur. How do they propose to increase fees then lower HELB? Will this country ever get to a point where decisions are made through dialogue and logic? Have these increases even been gazetted or approved whichever it is they are supposed to be? Could there be a middle ground? By the way kwani the maximum HELB was reduced? I thought there were guys who used to get 60k. Could this be the start of Mass Actions someone was talking about in Kibera....My lovely Kenya you have so many enemies...some want to force themselves on you,some want to stone you,some want to steal from you,some kill as they for you and bury the bodies...who will save Kenya...only God....God have mercy and save my Country Kenya amen.
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blackcobra		#13 Posted : Tuesday, May 20, 2014 3:22:37 PM
Rank: New-farer Joined: 1/7/2010 Posts: 68 Location: kenya		http://mobile.nation.co....l/-/75jvhw/-/index.html The parties to be blamed is the Kenya Universities and Colleges Central Placement Service for admitting more students and mostly management of HELB. Why cant HELB invest the money collected from beneficiaries instead of relying on the government 100%?
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washiku		#14 Posted : Tuesday, May 20, 2014 4:21:20 PM
Rank: Chief Joined: 5/9/2007 Posts: 13,095		blackcobra wrote: http://mobile.nation.co....l/-/75jvhw/-/index.html The parties to be blamed is the Kenya Universities and Colleges Central Placement Service for admitting more students and mostly management of HELB. Why cant HELB invest the money collected from beneficiaries instead of relying on the government 100%? Add to that list of shame the many university students who benefited but have refused to pay back despite having decent earnings. All beneficiaries should be proud to have a completion certificate, not proud to say how HELB haijawahi mshika. A needy child's education depends on you. Click here to assist
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karqui		#15 Posted : Tuesday, May 20, 2014 4:22:39 PM
Rank: Member Joined: 8/2/2010 Posts: 480 Location: chokoo		mdudu wrote: AlphDoti wrote: I don't mind increase in fees. But: 1. Undergraduate fees went up from 16K towards 45K 2. Undergraduate HELB max reduced from 45K to 30K (is this not mandatory?) 3. Postgraduate HELB increased 130K (is this not discretionary?) And the students gave a notice. They should be let to hold the peaceful demonstration #BecauseAmParent Any link on that? If true it can be very unfortunate. There are students who fully depend on HELB for their upkeep at campus and this will hit them very hard. any credible source of info other than the student leaders saying and newspapers reporting.
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Angelica _ann		#16 Posted : Tuesday, May 20, 2014 4:23:36 PM
Rank: Elder Joined: 12/7/2012 Posts: 11,909		washiku wrote: blackcobra wrote: http://mobile.nation.co....l/-/75jvhw/-/index.html The parties to be blamed is the Kenya Universities and Colleges Central Placement Service for admitting more students and mostly management of HELB. Why cant HELB invest the money collected from beneficiaries instead of relying on the government 100%? Add to that list of shame the many university students who benefited but have refused to pay back despite having decent earnings. All beneficiaries should be proud to have a completion certificate, not proud to say how HELB haijawahi mshika. Some of us we defualted by default! In the business world, everyone is paid in two coins - cash and experience. Take the experience first; the cash will come later - H Geneen
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washiku		#17 Posted : Tuesday, May 20, 2014 4:24:05 PM
Rank: Chief Joined: 5/9/2007 Posts: 13,095		A needy child's education depends on you. Click here to assist
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poundfoolish		#18 Posted : Tuesday, May 20, 2014 4:30:57 PM
Rank: Elder Joined: 12/2/2009 Posts: 2,458 Location: Nairobi		Pastor M wrote: washiku wrote: Rankaz13 wrote: AlphDoti wrote: I don't mind increase in fees. But: 1. Undergraduate fees went up from 16K towards 45K 2. Undergraduate HELB max reduced from 45K to 30K (is this not mandatory?) 3. Postgraduate HELB increased 130K (is this not discretionary?) And the students gave a notice. They should be let to hold the peaceful demonstration #BecauseAmParent I concur. How do they propose to increase fees then lower HELB? Will this country ever get to a point where decisions are made through dialogue and logic? Have these increases even been gazetted or approved whichever it is they are supposed to be? Could there be a middle ground? By the way kwani the maximum HELB was reduced? I thought there were guys who used to get 60k. Could this be the start of Mass Actions someone was talking about in Kibera....My lovely Kenya you have so many enemies...some want to force themselves on you,some want to stone you,some want to steal from you,some kill as they for you and bury the bodies...who will save Kenya...only God....God have mercy and save my Country Kenya amen. Pastor.. why do i have a feeling your 'Kenya' starts somewhere in Ngarariga mahutiini, covers several makutanos, curves near a river or two and ends on Kirinyaga road Its with a lighter touch..
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harrydre		#19 Posted : Tuesday, May 20, 2014 5:38:16 PM
Rank: Elder Joined: 7/10/2008 Posts: 9,131 Location: Kanjo		Pastor M wrote: washiku wrote: Rankaz13 wrote: AlphDoti wrote: I don't mind increase in fees. But: 1. Undergraduate fees went up from 16K towards 45K 2. Undergraduate HELB max reduced from 45K to 30K (is this not mandatory?) 3. Postgraduate HELB increased 130K (is this not discretionary?) And the students gave a notice. They should be let to hold the peaceful demonstration #BecauseAmParent I concur. How do they propose to increase fees then lower HELB? Will this country ever get to a point where decisions are made through dialogue and logic? Have these increases even been gazetted or approved whichever it is they are supposed to be? Could there be a middle ground? By the way kwani the maximum HELB was reduced? I thought there were guys who used to get 60k. Could this be the start of Mass Actions someone was talking about in Kibera....My lovely Kenya you have so many enemies...some want to force themselves on you,some want to stone you,some want to steal from you,some kill as they for you and bury the bodies...who will save Kenya...only God....God have mercy and save my Country Kenya amen. on 16th May, babu Owino met with Orengo, Muthama & Omar Hassan to plan for the demos. Each student leader received 40k. i.am.back!!!!
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danas10		#20 Posted : Tuesday, May 20, 2014 5:47:58 PM
Rank: Member Joined: 10/8/2010 Posts: 763 Location: Intersection		Mtu Biz wrote: Meanwhile at Zetech (stolen from twirra) Zetech Alumni sina ubaya.. Guy is really thinking...."have I made a made a mistake?"...
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